Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 b I have never read Wayne. (And, if what you say is so, there is an advantage to that.) I stand by what I said. Judi and Wayne hit the nail on the head. El ------------------------- ------------------------- ------------------------- ------------------------- Nisargadatta, " hrtbeat7 " <hrtbeat7> wrote: > Nisargadatta, " el_wells_2002 " <elizabethwells@m...> wrote: > > > " Your orgasm, your experience of God, > > (should you be lucky enough to have one) > > Will not be Enlightenment, > > But the result of masturbation. " > > Judi > > ------------------------- > > Judi and Wayne hit the nail on the head. > > > ))) Dear Elizabeth, > > Although your comment was addressed to Pete, i hope you won't mind if > i respond. > Such statements as Wayne's are all too commonly made by the recoiling > comparative mind that would separate elightenment and sexuality, and > invariably betrays an emotional/sexual contraction that expresses > itself as a judgement on others' modes of praising God. > > " I have given each being a separate and unique way > of seeing and knowing and saying that knowledge. > > What seems wrong to you is right for him. > What is poison to one is honey to someone else. > > Purity and impurity, sloth and diligence in worship, > these mean nothing to me. > I am apart from all that. > Ways of worshipping are not to be ranked as better > or worse than one another. > Hindus do Hindu things. > Muslims do what they do. > It's all praise, and it's all right. > > It's not me that's glorified in acts of worship. > It's the worshippers! I don't hear the words > they say. I look inside at the humility. > > That broken-open lowliness is the reality, > not the language! Forget phraseology. > I want burning, BURNING. > > Be friends > with your burning. Burn up your thinking > and your forms of expression! > Moses, > those who pay attention to ways of behaving > and speaking are one sort. > Lovers who burn are another. > Don't impose a property tax > on a burned-out village. Don't scold the lover. > The 'wrong' way he talks is better than a hundred > 'right' ways of others. > Inside the Kaaba > it doesn't matter which direction you point > your prayer rug! > The ocean diver doesn't need snowshoes! > The love-religion has no code or doctrine. > Only God. " > > ~ Rumi, from Moses & the Shepherd > > > In fact, i spent some time on Wayne's list (where Judi was laughed > off, btw), and eventually d when Wayne announced that > anybody who was unwilling to submit exclusively to him as " The > Teacher " was wasting his and their time. This also coincided with his > repeated intimations that he was the returning Jesus Christ. > > Hitting nails on the head takes on a humorous significance when they > are being pounded into air. > > > LoveAlways, > > b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2002 Report Share Posted September 11, 2002 I have never read Wayne.(And, if what you say is so,there is an advantage to that.)I stand by what I said.Judi and Wayne hit the nail on the head.El******* He's pretty funny El, you'd get a kick out of his stuff. And I can't imagine him ever saying shit like that, unless it was tongue in cheek to somebody. :-) If you get my drift? :-) Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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