For Dave S. on Aziz (Mark/Jan)

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Nisargadatta writes:

 

" Awareness is primordial; it is the original state, beginningless,

endless, uncaused, unsupported, without parts, without change.

Consciousness is on contact, a reflection against a surface, a state

of duality. There can be no consciousness without awareness, but

there can be awareness without consciousness, as in deep sleep.

Awareness is absolute, consciousness is relative to its content;

consciousness is always of something. Consciousness is partial and

changeful, awareness is total, changeless, calm and silent. And it is

the common matrix of every experience. "

 

 

 

Nisargadatta, Jan Sultan <swork@m...> wrote:

>

> >Mark Hovila <hovila@a...>

> >Sat Sep 14, 2002 7:42pm

> >Re: Re: For Dave S. on Aziz (Dan)

> >Jan, Could you explain what you mean by awareness without

consciousness? Mark

> >

> >>Let me first state that Aziz's writings gave me a huge

breakthrough.

> >>However I also agree with what Dan is saying.

> >>Forget about all the concepts. However Aziz's explanations about

the state

> >>of presence and how to progress from there helped me stay in

awareness

> >>without consciousness a whole night.

> >>His methods are very simple.

>

> It means there was an awareness but no consciousness of any

objects. No

> thoughts, no volition, nothing. Just being. I think Ken Wilber

explains it

> better ... there is an article on his site. Or you can search

NDhighlights.

> It had been selected there after I posted it somewhere.

>

> Jan