Guest guest Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 > Daily Words of the Buddha > October 2, 2002 > > > He should not kill a living being, > nor cause it to be killed, > nor should he incite another to kill. > Do not injure any being, either strong or weak, in > the world. > > Sutta Nipata II,14 ===== 'What is Truth?' (Pilate to Jesus.) (Jesus answered with silence). http://www.geocities.com/aoclery Another interesting Jewish view. http://www.netureikarta.org/ New DSL Internet Access from SBC & http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 What is Truth? Pilot. (silence) Jesus. The idea of Truth depends on the idea of Non Truth. The idea of Non Truth depends on the idea of Truth. Vicious loop. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 Nisargadatta, Tony O'Clery <aoclery> wrote: > > > Daily Words of the Buddha > > October 2, 2002 > > > > > > He should not kill a living being, > > nor cause it to be killed, > > nor should he incite another to kill. > > Do not injure any being, either strong or weak, in > > the world. > > > > Sutta Nipata II,14 i like the moral example of this ideal. we need ideals like this but at the same time it's important to note that, if taken literally this is unrealistically idealistic. take vegeterians for example. why draw an arbitrary line at vegetables? if we didn't eat vegetables, we'd be killing ourselves. in any case, we kill in order to survive and we pay taxes which finances killings we pretend not to know. i like maharaj's version as well, which is more realistic for the moral beings: " Nisargadatta: You fight others all the time for your survival as a separate body-mind, a particular name and form. To live you must destroy. From the moment you were conceived you started a war with your environment - a merciless war of mutual extermination, until death sets you free. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 Nisargadatta, " Elizabeth G Wells " <elwells8@e...> wrote: > What is Truth? > Pilot. > > (silence) > Jesus. > > > The idea of Truth depends on the idea of Non Truth. > The idea of Non Truth depends on the idea of Truth. > Vicious loop. > > > . Namaste El, Truth is Nirguna Brahman, hence no sound' no vibration, no anything, just silence//////ONS....Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 Nisargadatta, " Hur Guler " <hurg> wrote: > Nisargadatta, Tony O'Clery <aoclery> wrote: > > > > > Daily Words of the Buddha > > > October 2, 2002 > > > > > > > > > He should not kill a living being, > > > nor cause it to be killed, > > > nor should he incite another to kill. > > > Do not injure any being, either strong or weak, in > > > the world. > > > > > > Sutta Nipata II,14 > > i like the moral example of this ideal. we need ideals like this but > at the same time it's important to note that, if taken literally this > is unrealistically idealistic. take vegeterians for example. why > draw an arbitrary line at vegetables? if we didn't eat vegetables, > we'd be killing ourselves. in any case, we kill in order to survive > and we pay taxes which finances killings we pretend not to know. i > like maharaj's version as well, which is more realistic for the moral > beings: > > " Nisargadatta: You fight others all the time for your survival as a > separate body-mind, a particular name and form. To live you must > destroy. From the moment you were conceived you started a war with > your environment - a merciless war of mutual extermination, until > death sets you free. " Namaste, Yes but that is no reason for lack of trying or doing our best. As Jesus said 'be ye perfect as my Father in heaven is perfect.'Otherwise the principle of Ahimsa is continually and deliberately violated.....We can only do what we can do.......ONS...Tony. I'm a vege but not yet a vegan, for example. Then there are those who only eat nuts and berries and fruits that fall...Or those that don't eat at all and only absorb prana directly....ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 Nisargadatta, " Tony O'Clery " <aoclery> wrote: > Nisargadatta, " Elizabeth G Wells " <elwells8@e...> wrote: > > What is Truth? > > Pilot. > > > > (silence) > > Jesus. > > > > > > The idea of Truth depends on the idea of Non Truth. > > The idea of Non Truth depends on the idea of Truth. > > Vicious loop. > > > > > > . > > Namaste El, > > Truth is Nirguna Brahman, hence no sound' no vibration, no anything, > just silence//////ONS....Tony. Not even the idea of truth.........El .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 > Not even the idea of truth.........El > > . Not even the idea of not even ... <g> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2002 Report Share Posted October 6, 2002 > Daily Words of the Buddha > October 6, 2002 > > > Blissful is passionlessness in the world, > The overcoming of sensual desires; > But the abolition of the conceit I am -- > That is truly the supreme bliss. > > Udana II, 1 ===== 'What is Truth?' (Pilate to Jesus.) (Jesus answered with silence). http://www.geocities.com/aoclery Another interesting Jewish view. http://www.netureikarta.org/ Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2002 Report Share Posted October 12, 2002 > Daily Words of the Buddha > October 12, 2002 > > > Whoever takes a stick > to beings desiring ease, > when he himself is looking for ease, > will meet with no ease after death. > > Whoever doesn't take a stick > to beings desiring ease, > when he himself is looking for ease, > will meet with ease after death. > > Udana II, 3 Hi there, A good one for the politicians eh?.....ONS Tony. ===== 'What is Truth?' (Pilate to Jesus.) (Jesus answered with silence). http://www.geocities.com/aoclery Another interesting Jewish view. http://www.netureikarta.org/ Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 --- Tony O'Clery & lt;aoclery & gt; wrote: & gt; & gt; & gt; Daily Words of the Buddha & gt; & gt; October 12, 2002 & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Whoever takes a stick & gt; & gt; to beings desiring ease, & gt; & gt; when he himself is looking for ease, & gt; & gt; will meet with no ease after death. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Whoever doesn't take a stick & gt; & gt; to beings desiring ease, & gt; & gt; when he himself is looking for ease, & gt; & gt; will meet with ease after death. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Udana II, 3 & gt; & gt; Hi there, & gt; & gt; A good one for the politicians eh?.....ONS Tony. The Buddha didn't say that, pal. The Buddha never commented about the afterlife. Some monk trying to attract converts wrote that. For your information, everyone gets peace after death because there is no one to get anything else. There is no one in life either, so why don't you have peace? Peace, Pete Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 > The Buddha didn't say that, pal. The Buddha never > commented about the afterlife. Some monk trying to > attract converts wrote that. For your information, > everyone gets peace after death because there is no > one > to get anything else. There is no one in life either, > so why don't you have peace? > > Peace, > Pete Hi Pete -- Yes, this business of worrying about the afterlife can only be one additional activity of mind, with which to perplex itself, as if it could be a self, which could be perplexed, or could ever know anything. As for why one doesn't have peace -- it is because a cycle gets constructed around assumed separation, in which experience, memory, feeling, and anticipation conspire to keep an imagined sense of continuity going -- And of course, that imagined continuity wants to know what will become of it after death -- As if it ever had a real beginning! LOL! Enjoying your comments, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 Nisargadatta, pete seesaw <seesaw1us> wrote: > The Buddha didn't say that, pal. The Buddha never > commented about the afterlife. If that's true, then the majority of the writings we have of the " sayings & doings " of Buddha must grossly misrepresent what Buddha taught, in which case one would wonder how you would know he did or did not make such a comment. > For your information, > everyone gets peace after death because there is no > one > to get anything else. There is no one in life either, > so why don't you have peace? > If there is no one in this life, then " he " already has peace. Death would make no difference, would it? > Peace, > Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 > Daily Words of the Buddha > October 13, 2002 > > > Conviction is a person's highest wealth. > Dhamma, when well-practiced, brings bliss. > Truth is the highest of savors. > Living with discernment, one's life is called best. > > Sutta Nipata I, 10 Namaste, This is religion more than the standard ones, such as Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, etc etc etc. IMO they serve a purpose at a basic level of awareness as a guide, however it is good to be born in a religion but not so good to die in one......ONS....Tony. ===== 'What is Truth?' (Pilate to Jesus.) (Jesus answered with silence). http://djtruth7.tripod.com/theongoingsojournfromtruthtofreedom/id2.html http://www.geocities.com/aoclery Another interesting Jewish view. http://www.netureikarta.org/ Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 Nisargadatta, " psalm_eighty_4 " <yeshuabizon@l...> wrote: > Nisargadatta, pete seesaw <seesaw1us> wrote: Namaste, We really can only be sure what a sage says when we sit at his feet and then there is interpretation. At least it made you think....ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 Nisargadatta, " dan330033 " <dan330033> wrote: Namaste. For the unpurified and unrealised there will always be a body, afterlife or no...ONS....Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 --- dan330033 <dan330033 wrote: > > The Buddha didn't say that, pal. The Buddha never > > commented about the afterlife. Some monk trying to > > attract converts wrote that. For your information, > > everyone gets peace after death because there is > no > > one > > to get anything else. There is no one in life > either, > > so why don't you have peace? > > > > Peace, > > Pete > > Hi Pete -- > > Yes, this business of worrying about > the afterlife can only be one > additional activity of mind, > with which to perplex itself, > as if it could be a self, > which could be perplexed, > or could ever know anything. > > As for why one doesn't have peace -- > it is because a cycle gets constructed > around assumed separation, in which > experience, memory, feeling, and > anticipation conspire to keep > an imagined sense of continuity > going -- > > And of course, that imagined continuity > wants to know what will become of it > after death -- > > As if it ever had a real beginning! > > LOL! > > Enjoying your comments, > Dan ----- Thanks for the back up. I can use all the help I coud get. LOL Pete Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 --- psalm_eighty_4 & lt;yeshuabizon & gt; wrote: & gt; Nisargadatta, pete seesaw & gt; & lt;seesaw1us & gt; wrote: & gt; & gt; & gt; The Buddha didn't say that, pal. The Buddha never & gt; & gt; commented about the afterlife. & gt; & gt; & gt; If that's true, then the majority of the writings we & gt; have of the & #34;sayings & amp; doings & #34; of Buddha must & gt; grossly misrepresent what Buddha taught, in which & gt; case one would wonder how you would know he did or & gt; did not make such a comment. Buddha Taught for 40 year, even if he talked day and night w/o going to take a crap he could not have said all those millions and millions of words in the numberless sutras written most of them hundreds of years after his death. And besides I was there. were not you? & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; For your information, & gt; & gt; everyone gets peace after death because there is & gt; no & gt; & gt; one & gt; & gt; to get anything else. There is no one in life & gt; either, & gt; & gt; so why don't you have peace? & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; If there is no one in this life, then & #34;he & #34; already & gt; has peace. Death would make no difference, would it? If you believe you are, then there is no peace in life. Peace, Pete Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2002 Report Share Posted October 14, 2002 > Daily Words of the Buddha > October 14, 2002 > > > Having entered a royal court or a company of people > he should not speak lies. > He should not speak lies (himself) nor incite others > to do so. > He should completely avoid falsehood. > > Sutta Nipata II, 14 Namaste. That's bad luck for the politicians then hahah...ONS..Tony. ===== 'What is Truth?' (Pilate to Jesus.) (Jesus answered with silence). http://djtruth7.tripod.com/theongoingsojournfromtruthtofreedom/id2.html http://www.geocities.com/aoclery Another interesting Jewish view. http://www.netureikarta.org/ Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2002 Report Share Posted October 16, 2002 > Daily Words of the Buddha > October 16, 2002 > > > Though all his life a fool associates with a wise > man, > he no more comprehends the Truth > than a spoon tastes the flavor of the soup. > > Dhammapada 64 Namaste, Yes event the greatest scientist can have a low spiritual IQ......ONS...Tony. ===== 'What is Truth?' (Pilate to Jesus.) (Jesus answered with silence). http://djtruth7.tripod.com/theongoingsojournfromtruthtofreedom/id2.html http://www.geocities.com/aoclery Another interesting Jewish view. http://www.netureikarta.org/ Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 > Daily Words of the Buddha > October 18, 2002 > > > That bhikkhu who has crossed the mire, > Crushed the thorn of sensual desire, > And reached the destruction of delusion > Is not perturbed by pleasures and pains. > > Udana III, 2 Namaste, IMO we have to rise above joy and grief and attachments.....ONS...Tony. ===== 'What is Truth?' (Pilate to Jesus.) (Jesus answered with silence). http://djtruth7.tripod.com/theongoingsojournfromtruthtofreedom/id2.html http://www.geocities.com/aoclery Another interesting Jewish view. http://www.netureikarta.org/ Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2002 Report Share Posted November 15, 2002 > Daily Words of the Buddha > November 15, 2002 > > > Difficult is life for the modest one > who always seeks purity, > is detached and unassuming, > clean in life, and discerning. > > Dhammapada 245 Namaste,IMO, Whether it be Buddha or the Vedantists, it always comes back to the same place: Purification of the samskaras. So many put forward the mental non dualism, without the sadhana to purify the buddhi. No matter how non dual one is mentally,( Vndists) one thought or samskara will bring one back or prevent moksha. Moksha isn't fast food or instant gratification through intelligence......It is hard work Sadhana....look at Ghandiji.........ONS...Tony. ===== 'What is Truth?' (Pilate to Jesus.) (Jesus answered with silence). Online book draft and writings http://www.geocities.com/aoclery Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 --- Pariyatti Book Service <dailywords wrote: > Daily Words of the Buddha > October 24, 2004 > > > Hasten to do good; > restrain your mind from evil. > He who is slow in doing good, > his mind delights in evil. > > Dhammapada 116 _______________________________ Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 --- Pariyatti Book Service <dailywords wrote: > Daily Words of the Buddha > October 25, 2004 > > > Exalted in mind & heedful, > the sage trained in sagacity's ways: > He has no sorrows, one who is Such, > calmed & ever mindful. > > Udana IV, 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 --- Pariyatti Book Service <dailywords wrote: > Daily Words of the Buddha > October 26, 2004 > > > As a mother would risk her life > to protect her child, her only child, > even so should one cultivate a limitless heart > with regard to all beings. > > Sutta Nipata I, 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 --- Pariyatti Book Service <dailywords wrote: > Daily Words of the Buddha > October 27, 2004 > > > Speak not harshly to anyone, > for those thus spoken to might retort. > Indeed, angry speech hurts, > and retaliation may overtake you. > > Dhammapada 133 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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