Interview with Lee Lozowick

[Guest guest]

From post on another mail-list.

-Bill

 

WIE article on Lee Lozowick:

 

[what do you think of what the GuruRating club has on Sai Baba?]

 

It's something I never talk about. To

define the experience is to lead people

to expect something similar, which is

very misleading. So I've really made

an effort not to talk about it, beyond saying that it was the event that

catalyzed my entering into teaching work,

or that catalyzed my representing

divine influence in the world.

 

The actual description would be too

specific and unique to mean anything

to anyone else. What I do say about it

is that I was doing very rigorous

sadhana [spiritual practice]. None of

that sadhana was itself responsible

for the event that precipitated this

shift in context, and yet,

paradoxically, there is an association.

 

The person who I was in a relationship

with was traveling, and I was living

alone. It was really the first time

that I had had any time to do a retreat,

and I took that week as a retreat week.

 

The intensification of sadhana was not

what precipitated the event, and yet

a strong field of practice and

intentionreal exclusive intention in

the sense that there was nothing that

I wanted more than to serve God,

realize God, commune with God,

understand Godwas very crucial.

 

WIE: what is what you realized?

 

LL:I suppose it could be said that I realized the nature of reality. Since

that realization, there's been an

unfolding articulation of the nature

of reality as a way of attracting

others to this work, as well as a communication of its foundation, and,

at least minimally, its intellectual boundaries.

 

WIE: You said that before you woke up,

you didn't realize the

responsibility involved in being a

teacher. How did you become aware of

that?

 

LL: Before I woke up, I thought that it

was all bliss, that you got

union with God and you were ecstatic all

the time. Exactly coincident with the

event that precipitated this work came

a tacit, moment-to-moment knowledge of

what this work entailed. So in every moment, I know what I need to know.

 

If what I need to know is that I am responsible in such and such a way, I

know that. That's been constant in the

last twenty-five years. Whatever I

need to know having to do with my own responsibilities, with communication

in a given space, whatever it might be,

I know. So everything is tacitly

obvious. There have continued to be catalysts in my life after that event,

such as a book I read or a lecture

I hear, or even something random in

nature.

 

Everything was already tacitly

understood, but it wasn't all in

language, and the different catalysts

that I continue to intersect with

provoke articulation.

 

WIE: From your own experience, what is enlightenment?

 

LL: It's an unflagging, not necessarily

always willing, but unflagging,

irrevocable commitment to serve what

I call the great process of divine evolution. Basically, that's God, and

we articulate what the process of God

is in a very complex way. But

enlightenment is an unflagging and irrevocable slavery to serving that

which is God, the Divine, in whatever

way the Divine deems is service.

 

http://www.wie.org/j20/lee.asp Enlightenment's Divine Jester

Mr. Lee Lozowick

 

 

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