Guest guest Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 The $64,000 Advaita question is of course, Who am I? We are told, and rightly so, that all suffering comes from wrong identification, but it goes even beyond that: Identification is suffering itself. As long as there is identification with a something, no matter how nebulous or lofty limitation and the possibility of suffering are there. In the quest for a higher self, we exchange one identity for another less burdensome like a dancer reappearing in more translucid disguises. The Pete ID is traded for Consciousness, then Awareness, then THAT. This is self deception and duplicity. Duplicity here is truly applicable because it means the state of being double, or the belying of ones true intentions by deceptive words or actions. As long as there is an " I am.. " there is a duality and a duplicity implied. Only in the surrendering of all attempt at identification true freedom is realized. Only in the absolute purity of perception without conceptualization or reference to any imply identity there is a passing from suffering into a totality of well-being that can't be defined. This doesn't mean the renunciation of concepts for communication. This doesn't mean renouncing pronouns and grammar. It simply means uncompromising honesty about any possibility of existence or survival for any identity. Even to the point of resisting the temptation of juggling concepts to imply " I Am That " Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 There was/is a modern Western philosopher who wrote of this - that is, of a self or witness, which would then require another even greater Self to witness that self, and so on and so on. I forgot who the philosopher was, and who he/she was/is not important now. Scripture (Hindu especially) speak of Brahman as Infinite, One without a Second. The Infinite characteristic of Brahman (technically they might call it Purusha) puts a convenient rest-stop on the regression of greater and greater selves. It doesn't really mater what we believe, beliefs are delicate mostly intellectual human artifacts that come and go, and if one is honest, they have little impact on our daily lives. What matters is our innocent uncontrived ability to Appreciate, that alone constructs the quality of our life microsecond to microsecond. Nisargadatta, pete seesaw <seesaw1us> wrote: > The $64,000 Advaita question is of course, Who am I? > We are told, and rightly so, that all suffering comes > from wrong identification, but it goes even beyond > that: Identification is suffering itself. As long as > there is identification with a something, no matter > how nebulous or lofty limitation and the possibility > of suffering are there. In the quest for a higher > self, we exchange one identity for another less > burdensome like a dancer reappearing in more > translucid disguises. The Pete ID is traded for > Consciousness, then Awareness, then THAT. > > This is self deception and duplicity. Duplicity here > is truly applicable because it means the state of > being double, or the belying of ones true intentions > by deceptive words or actions. As long as there is an > " I am.. " there is a duality and a duplicity > implied. > > Only in the surrendering of all attempt at > identification true freedom is realized. Only in the > absolute purity of perception without > conceptualization > or reference to any imply identity there is a passing > from suffering into a totality of well-being that > can't be defined. > > This doesn't mean the renunciation of concepts for > communication. This doesn't mean renouncing pronouns > and grammar. It simply means uncompromising honesty > about any possibility of existence or survival for > any identity. > Even to the point of resisting the temptation of > juggling concepts to imply " I Am That " > > > > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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