Guest guest Posted October 23, 2002 Report Share Posted October 23, 2002 Bill wrote: >This seems like a needed realism with respect to words. Which is why if we limit ourselves to statements regarding our own point of view and do not attempt to make grand statements for everyone, we are on firmer ground when we speak. The following statements are all from *my* point of view: >Now is. >It is the fundamental reality. Only Now is. Bill, That is so funny! Isn't what you wrote a grand statement for everyone? You are the one telling us what to say and how to say it to accommodate your preferences. Let's hang a banner in the great hall: May now be free from the tyranny of my expectations. This is not an attack, I offer this for your consideration: you can't pick and choose your now. A tailor made now is just the past reincarnated. Peace, Pete Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 Pete, It seemed easier (shorter), and less clumsy to write: My point of view: Now is. Only now is. etc. Rather than write: To me, " Now is. " To me, " Only now is. " etc. Why do you can them " grand statements " for everyone if I bracket them with: " The following statements are all from *my* point of view " ? I'm certainly presenting them for other's consideration. But in the example you cite, at least, I'm not stating them as blanket absolutes. I'm sure you can find examples where I do make " grand statements " . It seems odd that you should call me on it in this particular case, though. As for your Great Hall comment, I wonder if you thought I was being sarcastic when I said what I did about putting Dan's statement up in the Great Hall. I wasn't being sarcastic. I try to never be sarcastic, for a lot of reasons. I was very happy with Dan's statement. I wonder now if my poetic image was so grandiose that it was taken for sarcasm. (please advise) BTW, I don't consider myself above making absurd statements. I just think you could have found a better example. Peace and Love, Bill pete seesaw [seesaw1us] Wednesday, October 23, 2002 8:30 AM Nisargadatta Bill's Now Bill wrote: >This seems like a needed realism with respect to words. Which is why if we limit ourselves to statements regarding our own point of view and do not attempt to make grand statements for everyone, we are on firmer ground when we speak. The following statements are all from *my* point of view: >Now is. >It is the fundamental reality. Only Now is. Bill, That is so funny! Isn't what you wrote a grand statement for everyone? You are the one telling us what to say and how to say it to accommodate your preferences. Let's hang a banner in the great hall: May now be free from the tyranny of my expectations. This is not an attack, I offer this for your consideration: you can't pick and choose your now. A tailor made now is just the past reincarnated. Peace, Pete Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 > It seemed easier (shorter), and less clumsy to > write: > My point of view: > Now is. > Only now is. > etc. > Rather than write: > To me, " Now is. " > To me, " Only now is. " > etc. Bill, I have nothing against blanket absolutes or grand statements. You are the one that wrote: " Which is why if we limit ourselves to statements regarding our own point of view and do not attempt to make grand statements for everyone, we are on firmer ground when we speak. " Which is a grand statement, in my opinion, about how people should address this list to suit your preferences. > As for your Great Hall comment, I wonder if you > thought > I was being sarcastic when I said what I did about > putting > Dan's statement up in the Great Hall. I wasn't being > > sarcastic. I try to never be sarcastic, for a lot of > > reasons. > > I was very happy with Dan's statement. > I wonder now if my poetic image was so grandiose > that > it was taken for sarcasm. (please advise) No, I didn't think it was sarcasm, I thought you were on the verge of some revelation about 'now', so i was trying to make you see, that if we contaminate 'now' with our expectations ( eg. how people should make statements) then the 'now' is but a continuation of the past. > BTW, I don't consider myself above making absurd > statements. > I just think you could have found a better example. That was the example that was around when that then was now. Peace and Love, PEte Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 > It seemed easier (shorter), and less clumsy to > write: > My point of view: > Now is. > Only now is. > etc. > Rather than write: > To me, " Now is. " > To me, " Only now is. " > etc. Bill, I have nothing against blanket absolutes or grand statements. You are the one that wrote: " Which is why if we limit ourselves to statements regarding our own point of view and do not attempt to make grand statements for everyone, we are on firmer ground when we speak. " Which is a grand statement, in my opinion, about how people should address this list to suit your preferences. > As for your Great Hall comment, I wonder if you > thought > I was being sarcastic when I said what I did about > putting > Dan's statement up in the Great Hall. I wasn't being > > sarcastic. I try to never be sarcastic, for a lot of > > reasons. > > I was very happy with Dan's statement. > I wonder now if my poetic image was so grandiose > that > it was taken for sarcasm. (please advise) No, I didn't think it was sarcasm, I thought you were on the verge of some revelation about 'now', so i was trying to make you see, that if we contaminate 'now' with our expectations ( eg. how people should make statements) then the 'now' is but a continuation of the past. > BTW, I don't consider myself above making absurd > statements. > I just think you could have found a better example. That was the example that was around when that then was now. Peace and Love, PEte Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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