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" What I say you must not take literally.

 

So much trouble has been created by people taking it all literally.

 

You must test every word, every phrase, and see if it bears any

relation to the way you are functioning.

 

You must test it, but you are not in a position to accept it --

unfortunately this is a fact, take it or leave it.

 

By writing it down, you will do more harm than good.

 

You see, I am in a very difficult position:

I cannot help you, whatever I say is misleading. "

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> You see, I am in a very difficult position:

> I cannot help you, whatever I say is misleading. "

 

Don't you find that hilarious, not to say

hypocritical? Why did he bother to write and say all

those thousands of words, if he really beleaved that.

 

The guy seats there and says with a straight face he

doesn't remember one sentence after he says it, but he

reads and writes books,and discusses at lentgh current

news. Who is he kidding?

 

Pete

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta, pete seesaw <seesaw1us> wrote:

> > You see, I am in a very difficult position:

> > I cannot help you, whatever I say is misleading. "

>

> Don't you find that hilarious, not to say

> hypocritical? Why did he bother to write and say all

> those thousands of words, if he really beleaved that.

>

> The guy seats there and says with a straight face he

> doesn't remember one sentence after he says it, but he

> reads and writes books,and discusses at lentgh current

> news. Who is he kidding?

>

> Pete

>

>

>

 

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Pete,

 

I can resonate with UG here. Who can really *help "

anybody. It always seems to me that people who set

themselves up as being there to help others " see

the light " or whatever are rather pretentious.

You can't help me, especially if you try. But if you

simply speak your truth, your truth resonates with

my truth and I see more.

 

As for all of his other thousands of words, I cannot

say as I haven't read them.

 

-Bill

 

 

 

 

 

el_wells_2003 [elwells8]

Saturday, November 23, 2002 8:29 PM

Nisargadatta

Re: From UG ---------

 

 

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Nisargadatta, pete seesaw <seesaw1us> wrote:

> > You see, I am in a very difficult position:

> > I cannot help you, whatever I say is misleading. "

>

> Don't you find that hilarious, not to say

> hypocritical? Why did he bother to write and say all

> those thousands of words, if he really beleaved that.

>

> The guy seats there and says with a straight face he

> doesn't remember one sentence after he says it, but he

> reads and writes books,and discusses at lentgh current

> news. Who is he kidding?

>

> Pete

>

>

>

 

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Bill,

You just picked up half the phrase. The second part,

the illogical part you ignored: " whatever I say is

misleading. " So then, that very phrase is misleding

too.And what he really believes is that he can help.

Otherwise why write or talk at all?

 

Pete

--- Bill Rishel <plexus wrote:

> Pete,

>

> I can resonate with UG here. Who can really *help "

> anybody. It always seems to me that people who set

> themselves up as being there to help others " see

> the light " or whatever are rather pretentious.

> You can't help me, especially if you try. But if you

> simply speak your truth, your truth resonates with

> my truth and I see more.

>

> As for all of his other thousands of words, I cannot

> say as I haven't read them.

>

> -Bill

>

>

>

>

>

> el_wells_2003 [elwells8]

> Saturday, November 23, 2002 8:29 PM

> Nisargadatta

> Re: From UG ---------

>

>

> http://home.earthlink.net/~elwells8/index.html

>

>

> Nisargadatta, pete seesaw

> <seesaw1us> wrote:

> > > You see, I am in a very difficult position:

> > > I cannot help you, whatever I say is

> misleading. "

> >

> > Don't you find that hilarious, not to say

> > hypocritical? Why did he bother to write and say

> all

> > those thousands of words, if he really beleaved

> that.

> >

> > The guy seats there and says with a straight face

> he

> > doesn't remember one sentence after he says it,

> but he

> > reads and writes books,and discusses at lentgh

> current

> > news. Who is he kidding?

> >

> > Pete

> >

> >

> >

>

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Sunday, November 24, 2002 5:29 AM

Re: From UG ---------

 

 

http://home.earthlink.net/~elwells8/index.html

 

 

Nisargadatta, pete seesaw <seesaw1us> wrote:

> > You see, I am in a very difficult position:

> > I cannot help you, whatever I say is misleading. "

>

> Don't you find that hilarious, not to say

> hypocritical? Why did he bother to write and say all

> those thousands of words, if he really beleaved that.

>

> The guy seats there and says with a straight face he

> doesn't remember one sentence after he says it, but he

> reads and writes books,and discusses at lentgh current

> news. Who is he kidding?

>

> Pete

Jeez Pete.. Absolutely right. And he is not the only one. There is Lao Tzu,

some idot from a couple of thousand years ago whose teaching begins with the

wrods, 'The truth that can be told is not the real truth.' And then there too

many others to list.

 

But maybe you are just not ready to hear what he has to say. If you could

undertsand that only a Guru can totally convince you that they can not help you,

then your whole approach towards yourself would change. You are perhaps still

convinced that there is someone who can help you and that you have to find them.

I can understand that,I've been there, as have many others.

 

But, consider for a moment that " I can not help you, whatever I say is very

misleading. " Which is in essence said by every Guru including J. Krishnamurti..

might actually be the most helpful truth that you could ever hear in your life.

There are so many people in the world who want to sell you their help for one or

another price.

 

Sam

 

 

 

 

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> But, consider for a moment that " I can not help

> you, whatever I say is very misleading. " Which is in

> essence said by every Guru including J.

> Krishnamurti.. might actually be the most helpful

> truth that you could ever hear in your life. There

> are so many people in the world who want to sell you

> their help for one or another price.

>

> Sam

 

Did you really think a little bit about what the above

means before you sent it?

 

If saying, " I can't help " , helps, in your opinion,

then the 'I can't help' is not a true statement. This

is really High School logic, but many people are

willing to overlook logic and accept the absurd, when

it comes to spirituality. Small wonder that what they

seek and what they find are only their own fantasies.

 

The statement 'Whatever I say is very misleading' if

true, invalidates everything that person said or will

say including that very statement. That again is very

elementary, and quite different from " the Truth that

can be put in words is not the real Truth " Lao Tsu was

talking about the Absolute, not methodology, or

relative truths,like if, A is false and A=B. B can't

be true either.

 

Hope that helps. logic is great, try it, you'll like

it. :)

 

Pete

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Just look deeply into your own experience,

and concerns about the supposed

hypocricy and various doings of others,

drop away of themselves...

 

-- Dan

 

Nisargadatta, pete seesaw <seesaw1us> wrote:

> > You see, I am in a very difficult position:

> > I cannot help you, whatever I say is misleading. "

>

> Don't you find that hilarious, not to say

> hypocritical? Why did he bother to write and say all

> those thousands of words, if he really beleaved that.

>

> The guy seats there and says with a straight face he

> doesn't remember one sentence after he says it, but he

> reads and writes books,and discusses at lentgh current

> news. Who is he kidding?

>

> Pete

>

>

>

>

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How about your hypocrisy, Dan. You are still here

writing. How about looking deeply into your own

experience and forgetting about my doings? Yea, I

know, writing happens, there is no Dan.

Bullshit happens too. I have memorized all your lines,

no feat of great memory there, so if you want to take

a rest, I could write under your name. No one will

know the difference. :)

 

I hope you won't though, cause despite my tirades

against you, I like you,

 

Pete

--- dan330033 <dan330033 wrote:

> Just look deeply into your own experience,

> and concerns about the supposed

>hypocrisyricy and various doings of others,

> drop away of themselves...

>

> -- Dan

>

> Nisargadatta, pete seesaw

> <seesaw1us> wrote:

> > > You see, I am in a very difficult position:

> > > I cannot help you, whatever I say is

> misleading. "

> >

> > Don't you find that hilarious, not to say

> > hypocritical? Why did he bother to write and say

> all

> > those thousands of words, if he really beleaved

> that.

> >

> > The guy seats there and says with a straight face

> he

> > doesn't remember one sentence after he says it,

> but he

> > reads and writes books,and discusses at lentgh

> current

> > news. Who is he kidding?

> >

> > Pete

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Pete --

 

Nisargadatta, pete seesaw <seesaw1us> wrote:

> How about your hypocrisy, Dan. You are still here

> writing. How about looking deeply into your own

> experience and forgetting about my doings?

 

Writing here doesn't occlude that

look in any way. And it has nothing to

do with your doings.

 

Yea, I

> know, writing happens, there is no Dan.

> Bullshit happens too.

 

Yes, it does. As Pete's dialogue with himself,

or Dan's dialogue with himself.

 

> I have memorized all your lines,

> no feat of great memory there, so if you want to take

> a rest, I could write under your name. No one will

> know the difference. :)

 

Still being concerned with what others know, I see :-)

 

> I hope you won't though, cause despite my tirades

> against you, I like you,

>

> Pete

 

Pete, you can't help your tirades, I realize that.

 

You don't know what you're talking about, and

that's no problem to me.

 

Your doings are not my concern.

 

Liking you too,

Dan

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Pete,

 

On the surface you seem a bit divided here.

You suggest that Dan's comment is Bullshit

(albeit indirectly), and also indicate you

hope he keeps making them. Hmmmm. How's that

different from UG saying " my words are useless,

here have a helping " ? (my paraphrase)

 

-Bill

 

 

 

 

pete seesaw [seesaw1us]

Sunday, November 24, 2002 2:36 PM

Nisargadatta

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How about your hypocrisy, Dan. You are still here

writing. How about looking deeply into your own

experience and forgetting about my doings? Yea, I

know, writing happens, there is no Dan.

Bullshit happens too. I have memorized all your lines,

no feat of great memory there, so if you want to take

a rest, I could write under your name. No one will

know the difference. :)

 

I hope you won't though, cause despite my tirades

against you, I like you,

 

Pete

--- dan330033 <dan330033 wrote:

> Just look deeply into your own experience,

> and concerns about the supposed

>hypocrisyricy and various doings of others,

> drop away of themselves...

>

> -- Dan

>

> Nisargadatta, pete seesaw

> <seesaw1us> wrote:

> > > You see, I am in a very difficult position:

> > > I cannot help you, whatever I say is

> misleading. "

> >

> > Don't you find that hilarious, not to say

> > hypocritical? Why did he bother to write and say

> all

> > those thousands of words, if he really beleaved

> that.

> >

> > The guy seats there and says with a straight face

> he

> > doesn't remember one sentence after he says it,

> but he

> > reads and writes books,and discusses at lentgh

> current

> > news. Who is he kidding?

> >

> > Pete

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Cause I love comedy, bro. And he is the king!

Who can equal the dead pan delivery, the droll

repetition of absurdity. Who's on first?

Pete

--- Bill Rishel <plexus wrote:

> Pete,

>

> On the surface you seem a bit divided here.

> You suggest that Dan's comment is Bullshit

> (albeit indirectly), and also indicate you

> hope he keeps making them. Hmmmm. How's that

> different from UG saying " my words are useless,

> here have a helping " ? (my paraphrase)

>

> -Bill

>

>

>

>

> pete seesaw [seesaw1us]

> Sunday, November 24, 2002 2:36 PM

> Nisargadatta

> Re: Re: From UG ---------

>

>

> How about your hypocrisy, Dan. You are still here

> writing. How about looking deeply into your own

> experience and forgetting about my doings? Yea, I

> know, writing happens, there is no Dan.

> Bullshit happens too. I have memorized all your

> lines,

> no feat of great memory there, so if you want to

> take

> a rest, I could write under your name. No one will

> know the difference. :)

>

> I hope you won't though, cause despite my tirades

> against you, I like you,

>

> Pete

> --- dan330033 <dan330033 wrote:

> > Just look deeply into your own experience,

> > and concerns about the supposed

> >hypocrisyricy and various doings of others,

> > drop away of themselves...

> >

> > -- Dan

> >

> > Nisargadatta, pete seesaw

> > <seesaw1us> wrote:

> > > > You see, I am in a very difficult position:

> > > > I cannot help you, whatever I say is

> > misleading. "

> > >

> > > Don't you find that hilarious, not to say

> > > hypocritical? Why did he bother to write and say

> > all

> > > those thousands of words, if he really beleaved

> > that.

> > >

> > > The guy seats there and says with a straight

> face

> > he

> > > doesn't remember one sentence after he says it,

> > but he

> > > reads and writes books,and discusses at lentgh

> > current

> > > news. Who is he kidding?

> > >

> > > Pete

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

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..

>

> You don't know what you're talking about, and

> that's no problem to me.

 

It's no problem to me either, matter of fact i prefer

it that way, I always surprise myself with something I

didn't know before. Anyway, it hasn't slowed you down

any, so i say: If it works for Dan, it ought to work

for me. :)

Uuuh, we are getting good. Let's take the show on the

road!

 

Pete

 

 

 

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Pete,

 

Whether he is the King of Comedy I don't know.

Myself, I especially appreciate Dan's wry,

terse, succinctness (especially when he's

succinct!). He's the one who can put it in

a nutshell.

 

To me it is you who is more the comedy guy,

the one man Comic Relief Organization.

 

Yeah, I'd say Dan is the one who keeps us

nailed down, and you're the one who keeps

us afloat. Far as I'm concerned, gotta have

both!

 

As for who's on first, as you know that is

a well kept secret.

 

-Bill

 

 

 

 

pete seesaw [seesaw1us]

Sunday, November 24, 2002 6:41 PM

Nisargadatta

RE: Re: From UG ---------

 

 

Cause I love comedy, bro. And he is the king!

Who can equal the dead pan delivery, the droll

repetition of absurdity. Who's on first?

Pete

--- Bill Rishel <plexus wrote:

> Pete,

>

> On the surface you seem a bit divided here.

> You suggest that Dan's comment is Bullshit

> (albeit indirectly), and also indicate you

> hope he keeps making them. Hmmmm. How's that

> different from UG saying " my words are useless,

> here have a helping " ? (my paraphrase)

>

> -Bill

>

>

>

>

> pete seesaw [seesaw1us]

> Sunday, November 24, 2002 2:36 PM

> Nisargadatta

> Re: Re: From UG ---------

>

>

> How about your hypocrisy, Dan. You are still here

> writing. How about looking deeply into your own

> experience and forgetting about my doings? Yea, I

> know, writing happens, there is no Dan.

> Bullshit happens too. I have memorized all your

> lines,

> no feat of great memory there, so if you want to

> take

> a rest, I could write under your name. No one will

> know the difference. :)

>

> I hope you won't though, cause despite my tirades

> against you, I like you,

>

> Pete

> --- dan330033 <dan330033 wrote:

> > Just look deeply into your own experience,

> > and concerns about the supposed

> >hypocrisyricy and various doings of others,

> > drop away of themselves...

> >

> > -- Dan

> >

> > Nisargadatta, pete seesaw

> > <seesaw1us> wrote:

> > > > You see, I am in a very difficult position:

> > > > I cannot help you, whatever I say is

> > misleading. "

> > >

> > > Don't you find that hilarious, not to say

> > > hypocritical? Why did he bother to write and say

> > all

> > > those thousands of words, if he really beleaved

> > that.

> > >

> > > The guy seats there and says with a straight

> face

> > he

> > > doesn't remember one sentence after he says it,

> > but he

> > > reads and writes books,and discusses at lentgh

> > current

> > > news. Who is he kidding?

> > >

> > > Pete

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

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You are a fricking diplomat. Have you considered a

post in Iraq? :)

 

 

> Whether he is the King of Comedy I don't know.

> Myself, I especially appreciate Dan's wry,

> terse, succinctness

(especially when he's

> succinct!).> Are you being funny here, or just

yourself?

 

>He's the one who can put it in

> a nutshell.

 

If you're talking about what you know, is not hard to

do.

>

> To me it is you who is more the comedy guy,

> the one man Comic Relief Organization.

 

Did you find the above remarks funny? :)

 

> Yeah, >

 

Well, there is more to come. Let's find out if you

have toughened any. :)

Love ya,

Pete

 

 

>

> -Bill

>

>

>

>

> pete seesaw [seesaw1us]

> Sunday, November 24, 2002 6:41 PM

> Nisargadatta

> RE: Re: From UG ---------

>

>

> Cause I love comedy, bro. And he is the king!

> Who can equal the dead pan delivery, the droll

> repetition of absurdity. Who's on first?

> Pete

> --- Bill Rishel <plexus wrote:

> > Pete,

> >

> > On the surface you seem a bit divided here.

> > You suggest that Dan's comment is Bullshit

> > (albeit indirectly), and also indicate you

> > hope he keeps making them. Hmmmm. How's that

> > different from UG saying " my words are useless,

> > here have a helping " ? (my paraphrase)

> >

> > -Bill

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > pete seesaw [seesaw1us]

> > Sunday, November 24, 2002 2:36 PM

> > Nisargadatta

> > Re: Re: From UG ---------

> >

> >

> > How about your hypocrisy, Dan. You are still here

> > writing. How about looking deeply into your own

> > experience and forgetting about my doings? Yea, I

> > know, writing happens, there is no Dan.

> > Bullshit happens too. I have memorized all your

> > lines,

> > no feat of great memory there, so if you want to

> > take

> > a rest, I could write under your name. No one will

> > know the difference. :)

> >

> > I hope you won't though, cause despite my tirades

> > against you, I like you,

> >

> > Pete

> > --- dan330033 <dan330033 wrote:

> > > Just look deeply into your own experience,

> > > and concerns about the supposed

> > >hypocrisyricy and various doings of others,

> > > drop away of themselves...

> > >

> > > -- Dan

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta, pete seesaw

> > > <seesaw1us> wrote:

> > > > > You see, I am in a very difficult position:

> > > > > I cannot help you, whatever I say is

> > > misleading. "

> > > >

> > > > Don't you find that hilarious, not to say

> > > > hypocritical? Why did he bother to write and

> say

> > > all

> > > > those thousands of words, if he really

> beleaved

> > > that.

> > > >

> > > > The guy seats there and says with a straight

> > face

> > > he

> > > > doesn't remember one sentence after he says

> it,

> > > but he

> > > > reads and writes books,and discusses at lentgh

> > > current

> > > > news. Who is he kidding?

> > > >

> > > > Pete

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> >

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> Well, there is more to come. Let's find out if you

> have toughened any. :)

You're makin' me nervous Pete.

You seem like a Rampage looking for a place

to Reek its Wrath!

 

-Bill

 

 

pete seesaw [seesaw1us]

Sunday, November 24, 2002 7:21 PM

Nisargadatta

RE: Re: From UG ---------

 

 

You are a fricking diplomat. Have you considered a

post in Iraq? :)

 

 

> Whether he is the King of Comedy I don't know.

> Myself, I especially appreciate Dan's wry,

> terse, succinctness

(especially when he's

> succinct!).> Are you being funny here, or just

yourself?

 

>He's the one who can put it in

> a nutshell.

 

If you're talking about what you know, is not hard to

do.

>

> To me it is you who is more the comedy guy,

> the one man Comic Relief Organization.

 

Did you find the above remarks funny? :)

 

> Yeah, >

 

Well, there is more to come. Let's find out if you

have toughened any. :)

Love ya,

Pete

 

 

>

> -Bill

>

>

>

>

> pete seesaw [seesaw1us]

> Sunday, November 24, 2002 6:41 PM

> Nisargadatta

> RE: Re: From UG ---------

>

>

> Cause I love comedy, bro. And he is the king!

> Who can equal the dead pan delivery, the droll

> repetition of absurdity. Who's on first?

> Pete

> --- Bill Rishel <plexus wrote:

> > Pete,

> >

> > On the surface you seem a bit divided here.

> > You suggest that Dan's comment is Bullshit

> > (albeit indirectly), and also indicate you

> > hope he keeps making them. Hmmmm. How's that

> > different from UG saying " my words are useless,

> > here have a helping " ? (my paraphrase)

> >

> > -Bill

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > pete seesaw [seesaw1us]

> > Sunday, November 24, 2002 2:36 PM

> > Nisargadatta

> > Re: Re: From UG ---------

> >

> >

> > How about your hypocrisy, Dan. You are still here

> > writing. How about looking deeply into your own

> > experience and forgetting about my doings? Yea, I

> > know, writing happens, there is no Dan.

> > Bullshit happens too. I have memorized all your

> > lines,

> > no feat of great memory there, so if you want to

> > take

> > a rest, I could write under your name. No one will

> > know the difference. :)

> >

> > I hope you won't though, cause despite my tirades

> > against you, I like you,

> >

> > Pete

> > --- dan330033 <dan330033 wrote:

> > > Just look deeply into your own experience,

> > > and concerns about the supposed

> > >hypocrisyricy and various doings of others,

> > > drop away of themselves...

> > >

> > > -- Dan

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta, pete seesaw

> > > <seesaw1us> wrote:

> > > > > You see, I am in a very difficult position:

> > > > > I cannot help you, whatever I say is

> > > misleading. "

> > > >

> > > > Don't you find that hilarious, not to say

> > > > hypocritical? Why did he bother to write and

> say

> > > all

> > > > those thousands of words, if he really

> beleaved

> > > that.

> > > >

> > > > The guy seats there and says with a straight

> > face

> > > he

> > > > doesn't remember one sentence after he says

> it,

> > > but he

> > > > reads and writes books,and discusses at lentgh

> > > current

> > > > news. Who is he kidding?

> > > >

> > > > Pete

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

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Pete,

 

I wonder if your defense is this

good when you play basketball?

 

-- Dan

 

 

 

Nisargadatta, pete seesaw <seesaw1us> wrote:

> Cause I love comedy, bro. And he is the king!

> Who can equal the dead pan delivery, the droll

> repetition of absurdity. Who's on first?

> Pete

> --- Bill Rishel <plexus@x...> wrote:

> > Pete,

> >

> > On the surface you seem a bit divided here.

> > You suggest that Dan's comment is Bullshit

> > (albeit indirectly), and also indicate you

> > hope he keeps making them. Hmmmm. How's that

> > different from UG saying " my words are useless,

> > here have a helping " ? (my paraphrase)

> >

> > -Bill

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > pete seesaw [seesaw1us]

> > Sunday, November 24, 2002 2:36 PM

> > Nisargadatta

> > Re: Re: From UG ---------

> >

> >

> > How about your hypocrisy, Dan. You are still here

> > writing. How about looking deeply into your own

> > experience and forgetting about my doings? Yea, I

> > know, writing happens, there is no Dan.

> > Bullshit happens too. I have memorized all your

> > lines,

> > no feat of great memory there, so if you want to

> > take

> > a rest, I could write under your name. No one will

> > know the difference. :)

> >

> > I hope you won't though, cause despite my tirades

> > against you, I like you,

> >

> > Pete

> > --- dan330033 <dan330033> wrote:

> > > Just look deeply into your own experience,

> > > and concerns about the supposed

> > >hypocrisyricy and various doings of others,

> > > drop away of themselves...

> > >

> > > -- Dan

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta, pete seesaw

> > > <seesaw1us> wrote:

> > > > > You see, I am in a very difficult position:

> > > > > I cannot help you, whatever I say is

> > > misleading. "

> > > >

> > > > Don't you find that hilarious, not to say

> > > > hypocritical? Why did he bother to write and say

> > > all

> > > > those thousands of words, if he really beleaved

> > > that.

> > > >

> > > > The guy seats there and says with a straight

> > face

> > > he

> > > > doesn't remember one sentence after he says it,

> > > but he

> > > > reads and writes books,and discusses at lentgh

> > > current

> > > > news. Who is he kidding?

> > > >

> > > > Pete

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> > > > Mail Plus Powerful. Affordable. Sign up

> > > now.

> > > > http://mailplus.

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Nisargadatta, pete seesaw <seesaw1us> wrote:

> .

> >

> > You don't know what you're talking about, and

> > that's no problem to me.

>

> It's no problem to me either, matter of fact i prefer

> it that way, I always surprise myself with something I

> didn't know before. Anyway, it hasn't slowed you down

> any, so i say: If it works for Dan, it ought to work

> for me. :)

> Uuuh, we are getting good. Let's take the show on the

> road!

>

> Pete

 

Okay, Pete, whatever you say.

 

I can't figure out if you're playing hockey and

deflecting all the shots on goal, or studying

stage magic so you can make yourself disappear.

 

Nothing for Pete to look into, after all,

he knows he's not there.

 

Nothing up his sleeve.

 

Presto! Shazaam!

 

-- Dan

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And it's Bill who's the master statesman.

 

After his stop on the Nisargadatta list, he's

heading to Jerusalem to bring peace to the

apparently opposing factions.

 

Then, on to Iraq -- which may be a challenge

even with his skills.

 

A toast to Bill: to insight, honesty, and

sincerity ...

 

-- Dan

 

 

Nisargadatta, " Bill Rishel " <plexus@x> wrote:

> Pete,

>

> Whether he is the King of Comedy I don't know.

> Myself, I especially appreciate Dan's wry,

> terse, succinctness (especially when he's

> succinct!). He's the one who can put it in

> a nutshell.

>

> To me it is you who is more the comedy guy,

> the one man Comic Relief Organization.

>

> Yeah, I'd say Dan is the one who keeps us

> nailed down, and you're the one who keeps

> us afloat. Far as I'm concerned, gotta have

> both!

>

> As for who's on first, as you know that is

> a well kept secret.

>

> -Bill

>

>

>

>

> pete seesaw [seesaw1us]

> Sunday, November 24, 2002 6:41 PM

> Nisargadatta

> RE: Re: From UG ---------

>

>

> Cause I love comedy, bro. And he is the king!

> Who can equal the dead pan delivery, the droll

> repetition of absurdity. Who's on first?

> Pete

> --- Bill Rishel <plexus@x...> wrote:

> > Pete,

> >

> > On the surface you seem a bit divided here.

> > You suggest that Dan's comment is Bullshit

> > (albeit indirectly), and also indicate you

> > hope he keeps making them. Hmmmm. How's that

> > different from UG saying " my words are useless,

> > here have a helping " ? (my paraphrase)

> >

> > -Bill

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > pete seesaw [seesaw1us]

> > Sunday, November 24, 2002 2:36 PM

> > Nisargadatta

> > Re: Re: From UG ---------

> >

> >

> > How about your hypocrisy, Dan. You are still here

> > writing. How about looking deeply into your own

> > experience and forgetting about my doings? Yea, I

> > know, writing happens, there is no Dan.

> > Bullshit happens too. I have memorized all your

> > lines,

> > no feat of great memory there, so if you want to

> > take

> > a rest, I could write under your name. No one will

> > know the difference. :)

> >

> > I hope you won't though, cause despite my tirades

> > against you, I like you,

> >

> > Pete

> > --- dan330033 <dan330033> wrote:

> > > Just look deeply into your own experience,

> > > and concerns about the supposed

> > >hypocrisyricy and various doings of others,

> > > drop away of themselves...

> > >

> > > -- Dan

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta, pete seesaw

> > > <seesaw1us> wrote:

> > > > > You see, I am in a very difficult position:

> > > > > I cannot help you, whatever I say is

> > > misleading. "

> > > >

> > > > Don't you find that hilarious, not to say

> > > > hypocritical? Why did he bother to write and say

> > > all

> > > > those thousands of words, if he really beleaved

> > > that.

> > > >

> > > > The guy seats there and says with a straight

> > face

> > > he

> > > > doesn't remember one sentence after he says it,

> > > but he

> > > > reads and writes books,and discusses at lentgh

> > > current

> > > > news. Who is he kidding?

> > > >

> > > > Pete

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> > > > Mail Plus Powerful. Affordable. Sign up

> > > now.

> > > > http://mailplus.

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Nisargadatta, pete seesaw <seesaw1us> wrote:

> You are a fricking diplomat. Have you considered a

> post in Iraq? :)

 

Okay, Pete -- I admit it's funny to have responded

to Bill's post and then see what you wrote above.

 

LOL!

 

Take it easy, tough guy!

 

Peace,

Dan

 

 

> > Whether he is the King of Comedy I don't know.

> > Myself, I especially appreciate Dan's wry,

> > terse, succinctness

> (especially when he's

> > succinct!).> Are you being funny here, or just

> yourself?

>

> >He's the one who can put it in

> > a nutshell.

>

> If you're talking about what you know, is not hard to

> do.

> >

> > To me it is you who is more the comedy guy,

> > the one man Comic Relief Organization.

>

> Did you find the above remarks funny? :)

>

> > Yeah, >

>

> Well, there is more to come. Let's find out if you

> have toughened any. :)

> Love ya,

> Pete

>

>

> >

> > -Bill

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > pete seesaw [seesaw1us]

> > Sunday, November 24, 2002 6:41 PM

> > Nisargadatta

> > RE: Re: From UG ---------

> >

> >

> > Cause I love comedy, bro. And he is the king!

> > Who can equal the dead pan delivery, the droll

> > repetition of absurdity. Who's on first?

> > Pete

> > --- Bill Rishel <plexus@x...> wrote:

> > > Pete,

> > >

> > > On the surface you seem a bit divided here.

> > > You suggest that Dan's comment is Bullshit

> > > (albeit indirectly), and also indicate you

> > > hope he keeps making them. Hmmmm. How's that

> > > different from UG saying " my words are useless,

> > > here have a helping " ? (my paraphrase)

> > >

> > > -Bill

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > pete seesaw [seesaw1us]

> > > Sunday, November 24, 2002 2:36 PM

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Re: Re: From UG ---------

> > >

> > >

> > > How about your hypocrisy, Dan. You are still here

> > > writing. How about looking deeply into your own

> > > experience and forgetting about my doings? Yea, I

> > > know, writing happens, there is no Dan.

> > > Bullshit happens too. I have memorized all your

> > > lines,

> > > no feat of great memory there, so if you want to

> > > take

> > > a rest, I could write under your name. No one will

> > > know the difference. :)

> > >

> > > I hope you won't though, cause despite my tirades

> > > against you, I like you,

> > >

> > > Pete

> > > --- dan330033 <dan330033> wrote:

> > > > Just look deeply into your own experience,

> > > > and concerns about the supposed

> > > >hypocrisyricy and various doings of others,

> > > > drop away of themselves...

> > > >

> > > > -- Dan

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta, pete seesaw

> > > > <seesaw1us> wrote:

> > > > > > You see, I am in a very difficult position:

> > > > > > I cannot help you, whatever I say is

> > > > misleading. "

> > > > >

> > > > > Don't you find that hilarious, not to say

> > > > > hypocritical? Why did he bother to write and

> > say

> > > > all

> > > > > those thousands of words, if he really

> > beleaved

> > > > that.

> > > > >

> > > > > The guy seats there and says with a straight

> > > face

> > > > he

> > > > > doesn't remember one sentence after he says

> > it,

> > > > but he

> > > > > reads and writes books,and discusses at lentgh

> > > > current

> > > > > news. Who is he kidding?

> > > > >

> > > > > Pete

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Mail Plus Powerful. Affordable. Sign

> > up

> > > > now.

> > > > > http://mailplus.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Nisargadatta, " Bill Rishel " <plexus@x> wrote:

> > Well, there is more to come. Let's find out if you

> > have toughened any. :)

> You're makin' me nervous Pete.

> You seem like a Rampage looking for a place

> to Reek its Wrath!

>

> -Bill

 

Yeh -- he's Ghenghis Pete, last of a long line

of warrior smart-asses!

 

-- Dan

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No use analysing what i do, profesor. I do what i do,

so you can do what you do, and viceversa. A comedy

team, remember. y + i= 0

 

Pete

 

 

--- dan330033 <dan330033 wrote:

> Nisargadatta, pete seesaw

> <seesaw1us> wrote:

> > .

> > >

> > > You don't know what you're talking about, and

> > > that's no problem to me.

> >

> > It's no problem to me either, matter of fact i

> prefer

> > it that way, I always surprise myself with

> something I

> > didn't know before. Anyway, it hasn't slowed you

> down

> > any, so i say: If it works for Dan, it ought to

> work

> > for me. :)

> > Uuuh, we are getting good. Let's take the show on

> the

> > road!

> >

> > Pete

>

> Okay, Pete, whatever you say.

>

> I can't figure out if you're playing hockey and

> deflecting all the shots on goal, or studying

> stage magic so you can make yourself disappear.

>

> Nothing for Pete to look into, after all,

> he knows he's not there.

>

> Nothing up his sleeve.

>

> Presto! Shazaam!

>

> -- Dan

>

>

>

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What should a comedian do with a country bumpkin

who rushes to the stage to mediate in a staged fight?

Kick him in the ass, of course. If he runs away, he

has learn a lesson, if he stays and fight, he has

joined the comedy team. Are you staying, Bill?

 

Pete

--- dan330033 <dan330033 wrote:

> Nisargadatta, " Bill Rishel " <plexus@x>

> wrote:

> > > Well, there is more to come. Let's find out if

> you

> > > have toughened any. :)

> > You're makin' me nervous Pete.

> > You seem like a Rampage looking for a place

> > to Reek its Wrath!

> >

> > -Bill

>

> Yeh -- he's Ghenghis Pete, last of a long line

> of warrior smart-asses!

>

> -- Dan

>

>

>

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Nisargadatta, pete seesaw <seesaw1us> wrote:

> No use analysing what i do, profesor. I do what i do,

> so you can do what you do, and viceversa. A comedy

> team, remember. y + i= 0

>

> Pete

 

Your doing is my nondoing.

 

My nondoing is your undoing.

 

Undone,

Dan

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Been there, undone that!

Over and out,

 

Pete

--- dan330033 <dan330033 wrote:

> Nisargadatta, pete seesaw

> <seesaw1us> wrote:

> > No use analysing what i do, profesor. I do what i

> do,

> > so you can do what you do, and viceversa. A comedy

> > team, remember. y + i= 0

> >

> > Pete

>

> Your doing is my nondoing.

>

> My nondoing is your undoing.

>

> Undone,

> Dan

>

>

>

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