Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 Nisargadatta said indetify yrself with that concoiusness.remembering that you are the conciousness should be without any effort. What is that conciousness that Maharaj refered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 It is This Consciousness whereby you read this very message. sveha89 [sveha89] Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:07 PM Nisargadatta conciousness Nisargadatta said indetify yrself with that concoiusness.remembering that you are the conciousness should be without any effort. What is that conciousness that Maharaj refered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 > Nisargadatta said indetify yrself with that concoiusness.remembering > that you are the conciousness should be without any effort. > > What is that conciousness that Maharaj refered? sveha89 ------------------------------- ~~~~~~The simple " sense of being " , common to all life-forms.~~~~~~~~~ .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 I didnt get the meaning pls explain further. tatsat Bill Rishel & lt;plexus & gt; wrote: It is This Consciousness whereby you read this very message. sveha89 [sveha89] Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:07 PM Nisargadatta conciousness Nisargadatta said indetify yrself with that concoiusness.remembering that you are the conciousness should be without any effort. What is that conciousness that Maharaj refered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 The generally understood model is that we are conscious of some object. These 'objects' can be sensoral like buildings and strawberries, or thoughts and ideas, or feelings. When we are in deep sleep, we are not conscious of things, but we are also not conscious either. The idea that we can be conscious, but not conscious of anything, is unheard of in most circles. Most so called experts and sensible people will not even entertain such a concept. Unwittingly, we define or identify ourselves by what we are concious of. For example, I am tall, I am happy, I am sad, I am male, etc. etc. In an insiduous way, the self or conscious being is united with the 'object' - with the self or conscious being 'lost' in the experience. Stated allegorically, our identity is blown around like a leaf in the wind by the changing field of experience. Or stated in simple psycho-babble, we go from mood to mood. Or stated poetically as William Wordsworth who once wrote " The world is too much with us. " Traditionally the first step is to reduce or eliminate the 'object' - (as in meditation). Consciousness is left unto itself with nothing left to experience. Rather than the mind finding itself DOA - the mind is unbounded and a state of freedom previously unconsidered is known. Occaisonnally an individual might have a flash of such an experience of unboundedness, but pretty soon it's back to the ol' BS model. That this " identitifying with consciousness " could withstand even the tumulteous nature of dynamic living is the electrifying possibility described in stacks of books and in the lives of great masters. Remember, " identifying yourself with that consciousness " is not substituting a thought of attraction towards objects for a thought of aversion, it is eliminating the sticky binding nature of a thought itself. Now comes the good/bad news - - everything I wrote above is nonsense. It's nonsense because it's not true, we only think it's true. Reality is we are not bound to the objects of experience- we went to the movie and loved it so much we forgot it was a movie. But don't take anybody's word for it - get up and check out the lobby. See ya' at the movies (I am the one stuffing popcorn down my face), Larry Nisargadatta, " sveha89 " <sveha89> wrote: > Nisargadatta said indetify yrself with that concoiusness.remembering > that you are the conciousness should be without any effort. > > What is that conciousness that Maharaj refered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 It is the same consciousness whereby you read this message, whereby you ask the question in the first place. It it the same consciousness whereby you experience your breathing, your presence in the room (or wherever you are). -Bill serene serene [sveha89] Wednesday, December 04, 2002 11:20 PM Nisargadatta RE: conciousness I didnt get the meaning pls explain further. tatsat Bill Rishel & lt;plexus & gt; wrote: It is This Consciousness whereby you read this very message. sveha89 [sveha89] Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:07 PM Nisargadatta conciousness Nisargadatta said indetify yrself with that concoiusness.remembering that you are the conciousness should be without any effort. What is that conciousness that Maharaj refered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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