Guest guest Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 eeper consciousness is higher Message-ID: <b1u9mq+vmu0 (AT) eGroups (DOT) com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 3450 X-Mailer: Message Poster " satkartar7 <mi_nok " <mi_nok X-Originating-IP: 209.240.198.62 X--Group-Post: member; u=92056211 X--Profile: satkartar7 Nisargadatta: The entire universe is your Guru. You learn from everything if you are alert and intelligent. Were your mind clear and your heart clean, you would learn from every passerby. It is because you are indolent or restless that o=your inner Self manifests as the outer Guru and makes you trust Him and obey. Q. I s a Guru inevitable? Nisargadatta: It is like asking " is a mother inevitable? To rise i consciousness from one dimension to another, you need help. The help may not alway being the shape of a human person, it may be a subtle presence, or a spark of intuition, but help must come. The inner Self is watching and waiting for the son to return to his father. At the right time he arranges everything affectionately and effectively. Where a messenger is needed, or a guide, He sends the Guru to do the needful. Q. There is one thing i cannot grasp, You speak of the inner self as wise and good and beautiful and in every way perfect, and of the person merely as a reflection without a being of its own. On the other hand you take so much trouble in helping the person to realize itself. If the person is so unimportant, why be so concerned with its welfare? Who cares for a shadow? Nisargadatta: You have brought duality where there is none. There is the body and there is the *Self* Between them is the mind, in which the Self is reflected as " I am " . Because of the imperfections of the mind, its crudity and restlessness, lack of discernment and insight, it takes itself to be the body, not the Self. All that is needed is to purify the mind so that it can realize its identity with the Self. When the mind merges in the Self, the body presents no problem. It remains what it is, an instrument of cognition and action, the tool and the expression of the creative fire within. The ultimate value of the body is that it serves to discover the cosmic body, which is the universe in its entirety. As you realize yourself in manifestation, you keeP on discovering that you are ever more than what you have imagined.. Q. Is there no end to self-discovery? Nisargadatta: As there is no beginning, there is no end, but what i have discovered by the grace of my Guru is...I am nothing that can be pointed at. I am neither a " this " nor a " that " This holds absolutely. Q. Then, where comes in the never-ending discovery, the endless transcending oneself into new dimensions? Nisargadatta: All this belongs to the realm of manifestation. Wider and deeper consciousness is higher. All that lives, works for protecting, perpetuating and expanding consciousness, discover of new dimensions, with their properties, qualities and powers. In that sense the entire universe becomes a school of Yoga. Q. Is perfection the destiny of all human beings? Nisargadatta: Of all living beings - ultimately. The possibility becomes a certainty when the notion of enlightenment appears in the mind. Once a living being has heard and understood that deliverance is within his reach, he will never forget, for it is the first message from within. It will take roots and grow and in due course take the blessed shape of the Guru. Q. So all we are concerned with is the redemption of the mind? Nisargadatta: What else? The mind goes astray, the mind returns home. Even the word astray is not proper. The mind must know itself in every mood. Nothing is a mistake unless repeated. from devi's club love, karta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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