Guest guest Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 Hi Pete -- > >If you can feel yourself as nothing, then > >you are not at the origin point. > P: Who said there was anyone feeling nothing. > This feeling is like feeling healthy. A brain feels > the body being healthy w/o saying, I'm well. It's an > un-localized absence of negative sensations. So in > this so called feeling of nothing the Absolute reveals > itself to the brain as an absence of self. > This of course, could be said in many different ways > and only those brains that have felt that can relate. I don't have a clue why you go into all this stuff about the brain feeling. The brain is like a tube. What is going through the tube is " what is. " Which the brain never knows. To get hung up in what the brain is feeling, is to keep yourself stuck in a tube. " What is " has no need of the brain to be feeling it -- the brain is merely a transitory phenomenon like all others, arising in their time and dissolving. > >You are in a feeling experience, without > >thinking about it. > > P: again no you or I could feel this. Feelings are transitory phenomena, as much as thoughts are, and brains are. > At the origin point, there are no > feelings, nor thoughts, nor space. > > P: How would your brain know that then? It doesn't. > And what origin is this? Origin of what? You have to ask? Don't you know who you are? Beyond the brain and feelings? > No thing has been created, or originated, If so, then feelings have not been created or originated, and it's a sorry sight to watch you idealizing things that never were :-) > >The origin generates space, time, > " I " , and eventually feelings and > >thoughts. > > P:All these things are simply ways of > Viewing the whole. Yes, as totality has nothing apart from its own being, and its own being is apart from nothing -- if it were a feeling, there would be a location for it -- in that feeling or having that feeling ... > >Don't settle for a feeling. > > P:)Be all you can be! Very true. Enlist today, before it's too late :-) > What difference would it make? There is no one to > Settle for anything or achieve nothing. Well, all that is well and good. Yet there is awareness that is hooked into things, knowing, experiencing and having ... And unstuck awareness, the primal " origin " (of no-thing -- all kinds of no-thing :-) > A sage and an ignorant man die the same death: > The body dissolves, memories vanish, the Absolute > remains un-touch by all these Very true. And the Living One animates them all just the same, with perfect indifference. > >Find out who you are, who I am, > prior to any " I's " , any time, > >and feelings or thoughts. > > P: ARE YOU TALKING TO ME? > There is no you or I buddy, and I been driving this > taxi without sleeping forever. )) That's not what Jodi Foster said about it. )) This business about how there's no you or I is all well and good, yet there you are, typing about those ideas and feelings, to me over here, who is reading them and responding. snip > > P: Well! Now that you got that off your chest, I bet you > FEEl better. By the way " unknown knowing doesn't really sound > More adequate than feeling Sure I feel good. I'm having lots of fun talking with you. But talking about feeling the no-thing makes it sound like an experience. And experiences come and go, they are all equal insofar as their coming and going. There is not a " good " feeling of the no-thing, and a " bad " feeling of the somethings. > And by whatever exoteric means you got that assurance, so did > this pea brain, and it calls that a feeling, if it's alright with > you. What's animating the brain will never be known by the brain, nor felt by it. > I know we're singing from the same page. But you're always off key That's not a song, it's a train whistle. Get off the tracks, quick -- you'll never outrun it or outfeel it. :-) Love, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 " dan330033 <dan330033> " <dan330033> wrote: If you can feel yourself as nothing, then you are not at the origin point. You are in a feeling experience, without thinking about it. At the origin point, there are no feelings, nor thoughts, nor space. The origin generates space, time, " I " , and eventually feelings and thoughts. Don't settle for a feeling. hi Dan, I want to ask you how do you pinpoint, that you are *not feeling* but really FOUND: the notion of WHO " I " is? --karta D: Find out who you are, who I am, prior to any " I's " , any time, and feelings or thoughts. The label " nothingness " is very misleading, if you take it as something to feel, that can't be thought. There are neither thoughts nor feelings of it, nor is it in any way an experience that is had. It is the origin of all experiential space, times, beings, and feelings. It is your own being, before you had a place to feel anything from. This is knowing without knowing anything, purely unknown knowing -- not with a feeling tone, not with an image for a thought-form > > P: again no you or I could feel this. > > Feelings are transitory phenomena, as much > as thoughts are, and brains are. > > > At the origin point, there are no > > feelings, nor thoughts, nor space. > > > > P: How would your brain know that then? > > It doesn't. > > > And what origin is this? Origin of what? > > You have to ask? > > Don't you know who you are? > > Beyond the brain and feelings? > > > No thing has been created, or originated, > > P:) Be all you can be! > > And unstuck awareness, the primal " origin " > (of no-thing -- all kinds of no-thing :-) > > P: ARE YOU TALKING TO ME? > > There is no you or I buddy, and I been driving this > > taxi without sleeping forever. )) > > That's not what Jodi Foster said about it. )) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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