Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 M: The common things of life:I experience them just as you do.The difference lies in what I do not experience. I do not experience fear or greed,hate or anger. I ask nothing, refuse nothing, keep nothing. In these matters, I do not compromise. Maybe this is the outstanding difference between us. I will not compromise, I am true to myself, while you are afraid of reality. Q: From the Westerner's point of view there is something disturbing in your ways. To sit in a corner all by oneself and keep on repeating: 'I am God, God I am', appears to be plain madness. How to convince a westerner that such practices lead to supreme sanity? M: The man who claims to be God and the man who doubts it- both are deluded. They talk in their dream. Q: If all is dreaming, what is waking? M: How to describe the waking state in dreamland language? Words do not describe, they are only symbols. Q: Again the same excuse that words cannot convey reality. M: If you want words, I shall give you some of the ancient wordsof power. Repeat any of them ceaselessly; they can work wonders. Q: Are you serious? Would you tell a Westerner to repeat'Om' or 'Ram' or 'Hare Krishna'ceaselessly, though he lacks completely the faith and conviction born of the right cultural and religious backround. Without confidence and fervour; repeating mechanically the same sounds, will he ever achieve anything? M: Why not?It is the urge, the hidden motive that matters, not the shape it takes. Whatever he does, if he does it for the sake of finding his own real self, will surely bring him to himself. (171-2) _I AM That_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 Hi Shawn, thanks Shawn wrote: > > > N-M: The common things of life:I experience them just as you do.The > difference lies in what I do not experience. I do not experience fear or > greed,hate or anger. I ask nothing, refuse nothing, keep nothing. In these > matters, I do not compromise. Maybe this is the outstanding difference > between us. I will not compromise, I am true to myself, Karta: wow! while you are afraid > of reality. > > Q: From the Westerner's point of view there is something disturbing in your > ways. To sit in a corner all by oneself and keep on repeating: 'I am God, > God I am', appears to be plain madness. How to convince a westerner that > such practices lead to supreme sanity? > > M: The man who claims to be God and the man who doubts it- both are > deluded. They talk in their dream. > > Q: If all is dreaming, what is waking? > > M: How to describe the waking state in dreamland language? Words do not > describe, they are only symbols. > > Q: Again the same excuse that words cannot convey reality. > > M: If you want words, I shall give you some of the ancient wordsof power. > Repeat any of them ceaselessly; they can work wonders. > > Q: Are you serious? Would you tell a Westerner to repeat'Om' or 'Ram' or > 'Hare Krishna'ceaselessly, though he lacks completely the faith and > conviction born of the right cultural and religious backround. Without > confidence and fervour; repeating mechanically the same sounds, will he ever > achieve anything? > > M: Why not?It is the urge, the hidden motive that matters, not the shape it > takes. Whatever he does, if he does it for the sake of finding his own real > self, will surely bring him to himself. > > (171-2) _I AM That_ awareness-honesty-love, Karta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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