Skippylove

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on 4/1/03 2:45 PM, devianandi at devi wrote:

 

> devi: i'm sorry your read arrogance into it, i'm not an arrogant

> person, and i believe what i say to be true..look, i admitted to

> having feelings of specialnessness myself, something that i think is

> a delusional...if i was arrogant would i admit to have had having a

> delusion?

 

I am sorry, Devi,

I didn't mean to sggest You were arrogant, only that some things typed

appeared that way. You are right, it is my interpretation. If one is having

a delusion now, how can one admit to it?

<snip>

> devi: there was a time i was searching for something, the Self, Atman

> God enlightenment,my higher Self..i had felt that something was

> missing in my life...when i found *enlightenement* (and we all know

> that words are inadequate)the search ended, i found what i had

> previously been missing...(even though it was always there)and if

> your wondering who can be saying i found it is the same thing that

> can say i eat or i dress or i exixt or i don't exist....even

> nisargataddat uses the word I...heres an example,,, " i dont get

> flustered, i just do the needful, I do not worry about the future "

> you see what i mean

 

 

Yes, the body talks.

 

 

> We all know we exist. What is this knowledge you

>> speak about?

> devi: we all may know that we exist but there are different levels of

> knowing this,,,enlightenment is the deepest level..

 

It is always perfectly obvious on every level, yes? It is the noticing that

makes the difference, and the disposition affects the abilty to notice.

 

 

It can be said to be extemely deep as at the Heart or Ground of Being, and

yet it is Nowhere in particular, so it must be locatable Everywhere, even

the shallowest level.

 

Is realisation dependent on anything?

One the one hand one could say it depends upon the disposition, the point of

view, the asana...but on the other hand, what can one say except that it

depends on Grace. What *is* Grace?

 

> All the sages I have heard agree that NOTHING is added in

>> realisation.

>

> devi: i think its just *thought* semantics, i can say nothing is

> added but everything is removed..everything including body/mind

> complex...nirvana is NOTHING, maybe thats what they mean by NOTHING

> is added...

 

> The one who is, is present now.

>

> devi: yes, but do you know that one at the deepest level of your being

 

 

I know Him at the shallowest level.

 

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> my kids are pestering me so i can't look over what i said,maybe some

> of it is inacurate..

 

 

don't sweat it...You're kids still at home with you? I thought they'd be all

grown by now, being you're so old an' all. ;-)

 

That was to make up for the 'you spell your name like a girl'

nonsense!Hahahahahah

 

here's some love for you))))))))))))))

 

BTW who's your Guru?

 

)))))))))Skippy