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on 4/23/03 8:38 AM, devianandi at devi wrote:

 

>

>>

>> People who argue for free will are always those who wish to take

> pride in

>> their hard work, their " good " choices etc. People who argue against

> would

>> like to place the blame of all their misfortunes on God (or Satan).

>

> devi: you have no faith in the goodness or sincerity of people do

> you.?..you think always theres some ulterior or negative agenda

> behind everything...

 

You are a lovely person, devi...it's just so deluded.

 

 

> not all people argue for free will becuase they take pride in their

> work, or good choices they made, and people who argue for God Will

> Only aren't necessarly wanting to blame anyone or anything..

 

I did not intend you to take what I said as a rule...of course there are

exceptions...

 

 

> i can't believe that your so negative and rigid in your thoughts..

> some people alot of people by the way have genuine interst in

> knowing how the universe works..

 

I don't believe anything you say, you've got " I wanna be a guruitus "

You can never know how anything works...it's all inference. All knowledge

amounts to crap. Watch your ego, devi...what is this desire to have

groupies?

 

Perhaps you could start a cult where people could await the coming of

ascended masters in spaceships...you could have sign-up sheet on your web

page...I can just picture the advertising: get your free dhotti and flute!

 

Sorry, that was sarcasm. Couldn't resist, you seem so ripe for it.

 

))))Shawn

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> >> People who argue for free will are always those who wish to take

> > pride in

> >> their hard work, their " good " choices etc. People who argue

against

> > would

> >> like to place the blame of all their misfortunes on God (or

Satan).

> >

> > devi: you have no faith in the goodness or sincerity of people do

> > you.?..you think always theres some ulterior or negative agenda

> > behind everything...

>

> You are a lovely person, devi...it's just so deluded.

 

devi: excuse me. whats so deluded about what i said..your state was a

lie, i just called ou on it...

>

>

> > not all people argue for free will becuase they take pride in

their

> > work, or good choices they made, and people who argue for God

Will

> > Only aren't necessarly wanting to blame anyone or anything..

>

> I did not intend you to take what I said as a rule...of course

there are

> exceptions...

 

devi: well be more careful with what you say...you'll get realized

quicker,,,

>

> > i can't believe that your so negative and rigid in your thoughts..

> > some people alot of people by the way have genuine interst in

> > knowing how the universe works..

>

>shawn: I don't believe anything you say,

devi: you don't have to

 

 

shawn:you've got " I wanna be a guruitus "

devi: theres nothing wrong with that, it a very high aspiration,

 

shawn:You can never know how anything works...it's all inference.

devi: your wrong

 

 

 

shawn: All knowledge amounts to crap.

devi: again, your wrong

 

shawn:Watch your ego, devi..

devi: i watch the little ego that remains with me quite often, and if

it strays to far from what i would call a satvic life, i get on it.

what about your ego,,describe it? is there anyone on the planet that

you look up to and admire thats living? or are you the highest most

realzied and inteligent?

 

shawn:what is this desire to have

> groupies?

devi: first of all, if i am truely realized, then all my motives

would be, i'll use the word altruistic...second, i have no desires to

have groupies, i find the word offensive when it comes to a guru

discile relationship,,again, your attitude is really negative..

>

> shawn:Perhaps you could start a cult where people could await the

coming of ascended masters in spaceships...you could have sign-up

sheet on your web page..

devi: perhaps, you should figure out that your attitude is reallly

very negative

 

 

shawn:I can just picture the advertising: get your free dhotti and

flute!

 

devi: new dhoties cost about 50 dollars and the price of flutes are

pretty expensive too,

>

> Sorry, that was sarcasm. Couldn't resist, you seem so ripe for it.

>

> ))))Shawn

 

devi: i'm not ripe for it shawn, your conditioned to be that way, and

i'm conditioned to feel hurt by your negativity...

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Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <devi@p...> wrote:

>

> > >> People who argue for free will are always those who wish to take

> > > pride in

> > >> their hard work, their " good " choices etc. People who argue

> against

> > > would

> > >> like to place the blame of all their misfortunes on God (or

> Satan).

> > >

> > > devi: you have no faith in the goodness or sincerity of people do

> > > you.?..you think always theres some ulterior or negative agenda

> > > behind everything...

> >

> > You are a lovely person, devi...it's just so deluded.

>

> devi: excuse me. whats so deluded about what i said..your state was a

> lie, i just called ou on it...

> >

> >

> > > not all people argue for free will becuase they take pride in

> their

> > > work, or good choices they made, and people who argue for God

> Will

> > > Only aren't necessarly wanting to blame anyone or anything..

> >

> > I did not intend you to take what I said as a rule...of course

> there are

> > exceptions...

>

> devi: well be more careful with what you say...you'll get realized

> quicker,,,

> >

> > > i can't believe that your so negative and rigid in your thoughts..

> > > some people alot of people by the way have genuine interst in

> > > knowing how the universe works..

> >

> >shawn: I don't believe anything you say,

> devi: you don't have to

>

>

> shawn:you've got " I wanna be a guruitus "

> devi: theres nothing wrong with that, it a very high aspiration,

>

> shawn:You can never know how anything works...it's all inference.

> devi: your wrong

>

>

>

> shawn: All knowledge amounts to crap.

> devi: again, your wrong

>

> shawn:Watch your ego, devi..

> devi: i watch the little ego that remains with me quite often, and if

> it strays to far from what i would call a satvic life, i get on it.

> what about your ego,,describe it? is there anyone on the planet that

> you look up to and admire thats living? or are you the highest most

> realzied and inteligent?

>

> shawn:what is this desire to have

> > groupies?

> devi: first of all, if i am truely realized, then all my motives

> would be, i'll use the word altruistic...second, i have no desires to

> have groupies, i find the word offensive when it comes to a guru

> discile relationship,,again, your attitude is really negative..

> >

> > shawn:Perhaps you could start a cult where people could await the

> coming of ascended masters in spaceships...you could have sign-up

> sheet on your web page..

> devi: perhaps, you should figure out that your attitude is reallly

> very negative

>

>

> shawn:I can just picture the advertising: get your free dhotti and

> flute!

>

> devi: new dhoties cost about 50 dollars and the price of flutes are

> pretty expensive too,

> >

> > Sorry, that was sarcasm. Couldn't resist, you seem so ripe for it.

> >

> > ))))Shawn

>

> devi: i'm not ripe for it shawn, your conditioned to be that way, and

> i'm conditioned to feel hurt by your negativity...

 

 

these territorial therapy session

should go in to private e-mails guys!;

it feels like visiting a nut-house,

not Nisargadatta

 

 

awareness, Karta

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