Sri Nisargadatta

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It is the changing that dies. The immutable neither lives nor dies; it is

the timeless witness of life and death. You cannot call it dead, for it is

aware. Nor can you call it alive, for it does not change. (433)

 

Nothing dies. The body is just imagined. There is no such thing. (361)

 

 

Karma is only a store of unspent energies, of unfulfilled desires, and fears

not understood. The store is being constantly replenished by new desires and

fears. It need not be so for ever. Understand the root cause of your fears

-estrangement from yourself; and of desires -the longing for the self, and

your karma will dissolve like a dream. (411)

 

The memory of the past unfulfilled desires traps energy, which manifests

itself as a person. When its charge gets exhausted, the person dies.

Unfulfilled desires are carried over into the next birth. I do not say that

the same person is reborn. It dies and dies for good. But its memories

remain and their desires and fears. They supply the energy for a new person.

The real takes no part in it, but makes it possible by giving it the light.

(381)

 

There is no compulsion [to be reborn]. You get what you want. You make your

own plans and you carry them out. We grow through investigation, and to

investigate we need experience. We tend to repeat what we have not

understood. (465)

 

To love and worship a god is also ignorance. My home is beyond all notions,

however sublime. (417)

 

Even faith in God is only a stage on the way. Ultimately, you abandon all,

for you come to something so simple that there are no words to express it.

(469-70)

 

-Sri Niz

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Nisargadatta wrote, through Shawn:

 

" We tend to repeat what we have not understood. " (465)

 

This reminded me of:

 

" You are in this life to be tutored by love. You are not in this

life to have what you want. When you are not letting love tutor you,

then misery will. "

- JDR

 

Pete wote:

 

" As far as enlightened people acquiring free will or special powers

is all hogwash dreamed up by their followers. The only power they

acquire is the one to only want what is going to happen anyway. So it

seems they always get what they wish. "

(What page of your book was that from Pete? ;-))

 

This reminded me of:

 

" The first dying is letting message of power pass away, the letting

go of cold holding within to accomplish or get something. The next

more gentle dying is letting go of the personal benefit of the first

dying. It is such a profound dying within that makes the self

trustworthy. Having a self that has no appetite for power, while at

the same time not throwing its power away but very gently being being

in its power. "

- JDR

 

 

Toby

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , shawn <shawn@w...> wrote:

> It is the changing that dies. The immutable neither lives nor dies;

it is

> the timeless witness of life and death. You cannot call it dead,

for it is

> aware. Nor can you call it alive, for it does not change. (433)

>

> Nothing dies. The body is just imagined. There is no such thing.

(361)

>

>

> Karma is only a store of unspent energies, of unfulfilled desires,

and fears

> not understood. The store is being constantly replenished by new

desires and

> fears. It need not be so for ever. Understand the root cause of

your fears

> -estrangement from yourself; and of desires -the longing for the

self, and

> your karma will dissolve like a dream. (411)

>

> The memory of the past unfulfilled desires traps energy, which

manifests

> itself as a person. When its charge gets exhausted, the person dies.

> Unfulfilled desires are carried over into the next birth. I do not

say that

> the same person is reborn. It dies and dies for good. But its

memories

> remain and their desires and fears. They supply the energy for a

new person.

> The real takes no part in it, but makes it possible by giving it

the light.

> (381)

>

> There is no compulsion [to be reborn]. You get what you want. You

make your

> own plans and you carry them out. We grow through investigation,

and to

> investigate we need experience. We tend to repeat what we have not

> understood. (465)

>

> To love and worship a god is also ignorance. My home is beyond all

notions,

> however sublime. (417)

>

> Even faith in God is only a stage on the way. Ultimately, you

abandon all,

> for you come to something so simple that there are no words to

express it.

> (469-70)

>

> -Sri Niz