Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 Did you ruin your keyboard with that torrent of moisture, toby? ((: It seems to me no one knows right from wrong. Wrong is often something someone else thinks you are doing. If there is no free will could you do wrong? Be consistent, Toby, weren't you the one who wrote: "true freedom is not to have a choice. " or words to that effect. Am I wrong? Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 >If there is no >free will could you do wrong? :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 Nisargadatta , " Melody " <melodyande@c...> wrote: > >If there is no > >free will could you do wrong? > > > > > :-) this is great Melody, but who has time to read all postings of the " wills " .. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 on 4/27/03 4:37 AM, Juansi Nulo at Juansi2 wrote: > Did you ruin your keyboard with that torrent of moisture, toby? ((: > > It seems to me no one knows right from wrong. Wrong is often > something someone else thinks you are doing. If there is no > free will could you do wrong? Be consistent, Toby, weren't you > the one who wrote: " true freedom is not to have a choice. " or words > to that effect. > > Am I wrong? > > Pete When people start quibbling over " right " and " wrong " this might be a good time to start Japa. If there is no discriminating intelligence behind the vichara (enquiry) this is japa...... )))))))))Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 on 4/27/03 5:11 AM, Melody at melodyande wrote: >> If there is no >> free will could you do wrong? > > > > > :-) > > no.))))))))))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 on 4/27/03 6:42 AM, satkartar7 at mi_nok wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Melody " <melodyande@c...> wrote: >>> If there is no >>> free will could you do wrong? >> >> >> >> >> :-) > > > > this is great Melody, but who has > time to read all postings of the > " wills " .. > > ) I haven't seen any of their posts....... ))))))Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2003 Report Share Posted April 28, 2003 Hi Pete, > It seems to me no one knows right from wrong. Wrong is often something someone else thinks you are doing. I agree with Shakespeare when he wrote, " Nothing is good nor bad, but thinking makes it so. " So it is with right and wrong. I adapted the story from an old book I had on the shelf called " Zen Flesh, Zen Bones " , full of short Zen stories. Thought it would be entertaining and appropriate considering recent events. Funny you should bring this point up. I actually thought to myself shortly after posting it that it would have been more appropriate to change the right and wrong perhaps to enlightened and delusioned... The original story was about a theif, hence the supposed right and wrong of his actions. > If there is no free will could you do wrong? Look back through the posts Pete. I have not once argued that there is no free will. > Be consistent, Toby, weren't you the one who wrote: " true freedom is not to have a choice. " or words to that effect. I wrote nothing of the sort. What I wrote was, " A man is free to the extent he does not need to choose. " As the " need " diminishes, freedom blossoms. The choice may still be there, but it is the need or desire for the ego to play an active role in exercising that choice that diminishes. > Am I wrong? Well we can't both be right. ;-) Toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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