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Nisargadatta , " steve " <spirit5562000>

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> I am from another group and Devi posted on the group asking if

anyone

> thought she was awakened, enlightened. I have interacted with her

at

> the group and I think she has had some kind of awakening. I find

her

> very helpful and enjoy her presence at that group. I know her Guru

is

> Baba Hari Dass and I have a lot of respect for him. She comes from

a

> very authentic, true teacher. But probably in the end, no one can

> really say who is enlightened or not, this is just my feeling and

> humble opinion. Take it or not, whatever it is worth. Steve

 

devi: steve, thank you so much, i was very pleasantly surprised!

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> devi: steve, thank you so much, i was very pleasantly surprised!

 

 

oh please... devi, thats pathetic. As if we are going to believe that

little stunt. The trouble is devi, your ego is sooooo huge, you can't

even see it. Your not enlightened, just hopelessly deluded.

 

There are two common clues to a big ego. One is rigorous self-defence,

and the other is insistence on always have the last word... lets see if

I am right...

 

Stuart.

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stuart:oh please... devi, thats pathetic.

devi: one thing i am not is pathetic, i gaurantee that...whats

pathetic is that you have to get involved in an arguement between me

and shawn,,mind your own business

 

 

stuart: As if we are going to believe that

> little stunt.

 

devi: the *stunt* as you call it was produced from a promise that

shawn made..

 

 

stuart: The trouble is devi, your ego is sooooo huge, you can't

> even see it. Your not enlightened, just hopelessly deluded.

 

devi: stuart, why is it that you feel the need to keep telling me

that i am deluded, do you think your going to change my thoughts,

because your not,,i am realized, i am realzied i am realized

 

stuart:There are two common clues to a big ego. One is rigorous self-

defence,and the other is insistence on always have the last word...

lets see if I am right...

 

devi: actually, no matter how anyone looks at it, the " realizer " is

always right,,,that means,, *me* i am right..

 

 

devi: again, shawn told me that if i got someone to say they

believed i was enlightened he would stop being mean to me...that was

my only motivation..i would like to stay in the nisargadatta club

without being harrassed and badgered by whoever it is thats badgering

me,,,just accept the fact that i think i'm enlightened and leave it

at that, if you can't do that then maybe you should ask you ego why

not?

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> stuart:There are two common clues to a big ego. One is rigorous self-

> defence,and the other is insistence on always have the last word...

> lets see if I am right...

>

> devi: actually, no matter how anyone looks at it, the " realizer " is

> always right,,,that means,, *me* i am right..

 

 

Unbelievable! In just one sentence too!

 

 

Stuart.

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Let me be the third to proclaim that Devi is enlightened - whether

she knows it or not I can not say.

 

 

Nisargadatta , " devianandi " <devi@p...> wrote:

>

> stuart:oh please... devi, thats pathetic.

> devi: one thing i am not is pathetic, i gaurantee that...whats

> pathetic is that you have to get involved in an arguement between

me

> and shawn,,mind your own business

>

>

> stuart: As if we are going to believe that

> > little stunt.

>

> devi: the *stunt* as you call it was produced from a promise that

> shawn made..

>

>

> stuart: The trouble is devi, your ego is sooooo huge, you can't

> > even see it. Your not enlightened, just hopelessly deluded.

>

> devi: stuart, why is it that you feel the need to keep telling me

> that i am deluded, do you think your going to change my thoughts,

> because your not,,i am realized, i am realzied i am realized

>

> stuart:There are two common clues to a big ego. One is rigorous

self-

> defence,and the other is insistence on always have the last

word...

> lets see if I am right...

>

> devi: actually, no matter how anyone looks at it, the " realizer "

is

> always right,,,that means,, *me* i am right..

>

>

> devi: again, shawn told me that if i got someone to say they

> believed i was enlightened he would stop being mean to me...that

was

> my only motivation..i would like to stay in the nisargadatta club

> without being harrassed and badgered by whoever it is thats

badgering

> me,,,just accept the fact that i think i'm enlightened and leave

it

> at that, if you can't do that then maybe you should ask you ego

why

> not?

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Nisargadatta , " trem23 " <inmadison@h...> wrote:

 

 

> Let me be the third to proclaim that Devi is enlightened - whether

> she knows it or not I can not say.

>

 

 

 

devi:trem, i can only laugh and say thank you,,,i'll tell you whats

really amazing for me in this instance is that i really wanted shawn

to stop badgering me and i really didn't think i would get anyone to

say they thought i am enlightened..but the universe is so protective

of me not only did one person step forward,,three did...God is good!

and the universe provides...

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on 4/28/03 10:20 AM, steve at spirit5562000 wrote:

 

> I am from another group and Devi posted on the group asking if anyone

> thought she was awakened, enlightened. I have interacted with her at

> the group and I think she has had some kind of awakening. I find her

> very helpful and enjoy her presence at that group. I know her Guru is

> Baba Hari Dass and I have a lot of respect for him. She comes from a

> very authentic, true teacher. But probably in the end, no one can

> really say who is enlightened or not, this is just my feeling and

> humble opinion. Take it or not, whatever it is worth. Steve

>

 

Devi call some back-up? I love it. It's an enlightened beings rumble! Too

absurd!

 

That's wonderful Steve!! Watch your wallet!

 

)))))))Shawn

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on 4/28/03 10:38 AM, devianandi at devi wrote:

 

> Nisargadatta , " steve " <spirit5562000>

> wrote:

>> I am from another group and Devi posted on the group asking if

> anyone

>> thought she was awakened, enlightened. I have interacted with her

> at

>> the group and I think she has had some kind of awakening. I find

> her

>> very helpful and enjoy her presence at that group. I know her Guru

> is

>> Baba Hari Dass and I have a lot of respect for him. She comes from

> a

>> very authentic, true teacher. But probably in the end, no one can

>> really say who is enlightened or not, this is just my feeling and

>> humble opinion. Take it or not, whatever it is worth. Steve

>

> devi: steve, thank you so much, i was very pleasantly surprised!

 

 

I bet you were just as suprised as me, huh, devi?

 

Unbelievable...I step away for a minute to light some incense, hit a cymbal

and pranam to devi's picture (before the dye-job) and all hell breaks loose.

 

Seems she brought her dobermans!

 

Sri Niz!!! Sri Niz!!! Help me, I'm being chase by some real pathetics...uh ,

I mean ascetics!

Get a frickin' clue, you guys!

 

)))))))Shawn

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Nisargadatta , shawn <shawn@w...> wrote:

> on 4/28/03 10:20 AM, steve at spirit5562000 wrote:

>

> > I am from another group and Devi posted on the group asking if

anyone

> > thought she was awakened, enlightened. I have interacted with her

at

> > the group and I think she has had some kind of awakening. I find

her

> > very helpful and enjoy her presence at that group. I know her

Guru is

> > Baba Hari Dass and I have a lot of respect for him. She comes

from a

> > very authentic, true teacher. But probably in the end, no one can

> > really say who is enlightened or not, this is just my feeling and

> > humble opinion. Take it or not, whatever it is worth. Steve

> >

>

> Devi call some back-up? I love it. It's an enlightened beings

rumble! Too

> absurd!

>

> That's wonderful Steve!! Watch your wallet!

>

> )))))))Shawnok,

 

 

devi:

 

heres another one shawn,,remember, you asked for it..you said if i

could find one person to say i was enlightenend you'd stip harrassing

me..

 

 

 

devi:i have to ask, does anyone here believe i am enlightened,

 

I think you're enlightened. I also think you are silly, and more than

a little deranged. Does that help?

 

bobby

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on 4/28/03 1:28 PM, devianandi at devi wrote:

 

>

> devi: again, shawn told me that if i got someone to say they

> believed i was enlightened he would stop being mean to me...that was

> my only motivation..

 

 

 

Where did you read this? can you produce said e-mail? You even got that

wrong!

 

))))))Shawn

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