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by UG:

 

 

The personality does not change when you come into this state.

 

You are, after all, a computer machine, which reacts as it has

been programmed.

 

It is in fact your present effort to change yourself that is taking you

away from yourself and keeping you from functioning in the

natural way.

 

The personality will remain the same.

 

Don't expect such a man to become free from anger or

idiosyncrasies.

 

Don't expect some kind of spiritual humility.

 

Such a man may be the most arrogant person you have ever

met,

because he is touching life at a unique place where no man has

touched before.

 

It is for this reason that each person who comes into this state

expresses it in a unique way, in terms relevant to his time.

 

It is also for this reason that if two or more people are living in

this state at the same time, they will never get together.

 

They won't dance in the streets hand in hand:

 

" We are all self-realized men!

 

We belong! "

 

 

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on 4/29/03 5:27 AM, elwells02003 at elizabethwells8 wrote:

 

> by UG:

 

 

Who is this UG?

I don't agree with this...is that ok?

 

)))))Shawn

 

 

 

 

> The personality does not change when you come into this state.

>

> You are, after all, a computer machine, which reacts as it has

> been programmed.

>

> It is in fact your present effort to change yourself that is taking you

> away from yourself and keeping you from functioning in the

> natural way.

>

> The personality will remain the same.

>

> Don't expect such a man to become free from anger or

> idiosyncrasies.

>

> Don't expect some kind of spiritual humility.

>

> Such a man may be the most arrogant person you have ever

> met,

> because he is touching life at a unique place where no man has

> touched before.

>

> It is for this reason that each person who comes into this state

> expresses it in a unique way, in terms relevant to his time.

>

> It is also for this reason that if two or more people are living in

> this state at the same time, they will never get together.

>

> They won't dance in the streets hand in hand:

>

> " We are all self-realized men!

>

> We belong! "

>

>

> .

>

>

>

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Who is this UG?

Shawn

 

 

Run Google.

El

 

 

I don't agree with this...is that ok?

Shawn

 

 

You are in no position to agree or disagree.

Why don't you just be honest and say " I don't know " .

El

 

 

 

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on 4/29/03 5:27 AM, elwells02003 at elizabethwells8 wrote:

 

> by UG:

>

>

> The personality does not change when you come into this state.

 

 

It is seen through, not identified with, etc.

 

> You are, after all, a computer machine, which reacts as it has

> been programmed.

 

the bodymind is this.

 

 

> It is in fact your present effort to change yourself that is taking you

> away from yourself and keeping you from functioning in the

> natural way.

 

yes. but what seems " natural " for most is to stand AS the personality, which

is false.

 

 

 

 

> The personality will remain the same.

 

 

The habits and reactions burn themselves out by non-use and

non-identification. A change in the personality will seem to take place.

 

 

> Don't expect such a man to become free from anger or

> idiosyncrasies.

 

Maybe not right away....but the different asana makes all the difference!

 

 

 

> Don't expect some kind of spiritual humility.

 

 

Don't expect anything!

 

> Such a man may be the most arrogant person you have ever

> met,

> because he is touching life at a unique place where no man has

> touched before.

 

Perhaps at first, this will go when identity snaps or breaks from the

habit-mind.

 

 

> It is for this reason that each person who comes into this state

> expresses it in a unique way, in terms relevant to his time.

>

> It is also for this reason that if two or more people are living in

> this state at the same time, they will never get together.

 

Never say never!

 

 

> They won't dance in the streets hand in hand:

 

 

They can if they want!

 

 

> " We are all self-realized men!

>

> We belong! "

>

 

 

 

We are all the Self. The realised part is something else.

 

Nice chatting with you, UG.

 

))))))Shawn

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on 4/29/03 12:19 PM, elwells02003 at elizabethwells8 wrote:

 

>

 

> You are in no position to agree or disagree.

> Why don't you just be honest and say " I don't know " .

> El

 

What position do I have to be in?

 

))))))Shawn

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on 4/29/03 12:19 PM, elwells02003 at elizabethwells8 wrote:

 

> Who is this UG?

> Shawn

>

>

> Run Google.

> El

 

 

But i am more interested in who *you* say he or she is.

 

))))))Shawn

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> > Who is this UG?

> > Shawn

> >

> >

> > Run Google.

> > El

>

>

> But i am more interested in who *you* say he or she is.

>

> ))))))Shawn

 

There are no he's and she's in my world.

El

 

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Ah, so the ego stays, one is easily triggered into an emotional rage and riddled

daily with resentment and anger - but is enlightened at the same time...

 

What garbage is this?

 

 

>

> elwells02003 [sMTP:elizabethwells8]

> Wednesday, April 30, 2003 1:28 AM

> Nisargadatta

> Personality

>

> by UG:

>

>

> The personality does not change when you come into this state.

>

> You are, after all, a computer machine, which reacts as it has

> been programmed.

>

> It is in fact your present effort to change yourself that is taking you

> away from yourself and keeping you from functioning in the

> natural way.

>

> The personality will remain the same.

>

> Don't expect such a man to become free from anger or

> idiosyncrasies.

>

> Don't expect some kind of spiritual humility.

>

> Such a man may be the most arrogant person you have ever

> met,

> because he is touching life at a unique place where no man has

> touched before.

>

> It is for this reason that each person who comes into this state

> expresses it in a unique way, in terms relevant to his time.

>

> It is also for this reason that if two or more people are living in

> this state at the same time, they will never get together.

>

> They won't dance in the streets hand in hand:

>

> " We are all self-realized men!

>

> We belong! "

>

>

> .

>

>

>

>

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on 4/29/03 2:00 PM, elwells02003 at elizabethwells8 wrote:

 

 

>

> There are no he's and she's in my world.

> El

 

Good for you! Then there is no bigotry or prejudice. But according to you,

who is this?

 

))))))Shawn

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on 4/29/03 2:32 PM, elwells02003 at elizabethwells8 wrote:

 

>

> But according to you,

>> who is this?

>>

>> ))))))Shawn

>

>

>

> Data in the computer.

>

> El

>

Very clever....but not interesting. Afraid to talk?

I won't bite, honest. It's just words.

 

))))))Shawn

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You are in no position to agree or disagree.

Why don't you just be honest and say " I don't know " .

El

 

What position do

~~~~~ I~~~~~

have to be in?

Shawn

 

------------------------

 

~~~~~ NO~~~~~ position.

 

 

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on 4/29/03 3:19 PM, elwells02003 at elizabethwells8 wrote:

 

>

> You are in no position to agree or disagree.

> Why don't you just be honest and say " I don't know " .

> El

>

> What position do

> ~~~~~ I~~~~~

> have to be in?

> Shawn

>

> ------------------------

>

> ~~~~~ NO~~~~~ position.

 

 

Good! Excellent agreed tcha namaste

 

)))))Shawn

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Nisargadatta , " Wilson, Toby "

<toby.wilson@t...> wrote:

> Ah, so the ego stays, one is easily triggered into an emotional

rage and riddled daily with resentment and anger - but is enlightened

at the same time...

>

> What garbage is this?

 

devi: shawn told me that nisargadatta was abusive to his wife and

cursed alot,,ask shawn?

>

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on 4/29/03 4:34 PM, devianandi at devi wrote:

 

> Nisargadatta , " Wilson, Toby "

> <toby.wilson@t...> wrote:

>> Ah, so the ego stays, one is easily triggered into an emotional

> rage and riddled daily with resentment and anger - but is enlightened

> at the same time...

>>

>> What garbage is this?

>

> devi: shawn told me that nisargadatta was abusive to his wife and

> cursed alot,,ask shawn?

>>

 

whoa! amazing.....off your medication?

 

.....but I'm sure it's just to teah us something, right?

 

))))))Shawn

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Nisargadatta , shawn <shawn@w...> wrote:

> on 4/29/03 4:34 PM, devianandi at devi@p... wrote:

>

> > Nisargadatta , " Wilson, Toby "

> > <toby.wilson@t...> wrote:

> >> Ah, so the ego stays, one is easily triggered into an emotional

> > rage and riddled daily with resentment and anger - but is

enlightened

> > at the same time...

> >>

> >> What garbage is this?

> >

> > devi: shawn told me that nisargadatta was abusive to his wife and

> > cursed alot,,ask shawn?

> >>

>

> whoa! amazing.....off your medication?

>

> ....but I'm sure it's just to teah us something, right?

>

> ))))))Shawn

 

devi: ok, maybe it wasn't you, it was one of the other ones here,

your all pretty much the same here...i remember the conversation

because i remember reading in here that nisargadatta abused his wife

and i remember saying that his wife probably deserved it...

 

devi: shawn, fuckhead, whats this about me being off my

medication,,,being nasty again, schmuck?

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There is a resenance here with the words of Christ. It's almost biblical...

 

 

> devi: shawn, fuckhead, whats this about me being off my

> medication,,,being nasty again, schmuck?

>

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shawn, fuckhead, whats this about me being off my

medication,,,being nasty again, schmuck?

Devi

 

 

There is a resenance here with the words of Christ.

Toby.

 

 

 

Only if

~~~~~ you~~~~

are One with Christ.

 

~~~~NO~~~~ position.

 

 

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