Guest guest Posted April 29, 2003 Report Share Posted April 29, 2003 on 4/29/03 4:52 AM, devianandi at devi wrote: > > >>> >>> devi: quote from steve " Devi is enlightened in my humble opinion " >>> >>> now shawn you better keep your word and stop harassing me.. >> >> steve: Why should you be bothered by what i think or say? > devi: maybe to show you that your being hurtful to someone and until > you drop that negative trait your not going to get it..maybe you've > got something to work out and it's my job to help you do that Shawn: Please understand, no one can hurt you. You are doing it to yourself. You are not who you take yourself to be. The Self is unchanging. Stand there. Be that. These are typed letters forming words. You give them importance and meaning. You are holding some ideas as " yours, " and believing in the changing to be you. Otherwise, you would not be bothered. )))))Shawn > steve:Do you still identify with *your* feelings, *your* thoughts, > *your* body, etc? > devi: forget about me and concentrate on you, >> >> steve:Am I harrassing you? > devi: yes >> >> I said I would quit egging you on, > > devi: right > shawn: and it was not a promise, > devi: oh, so your not a man of your word, you have no integrity? > shawn: and I though i would untill you brought " back-up! " Sheesh! > devi: you told me too shawn, > shawn: Why should you care? What do you want? What do you need? Who > am I? > devi: stop questioning me shawn, i already told you i am realized, > those questions aren't important to me, and you should be trying to > figure things out for yourself. > shawn:What trem said is true, you are...but whether you know it or > not is unclear >> to others....so what? > devi: >> >> steve:I am just theater here.. > devi: what you are to me is a hurtful pain in the ass whose making my > presence in this club feel unwelcome and threatened...if steve hadn't > come along i would have left > > shawn:I love you regardless.. > devi: do you hit you wife? what kind of realationship do you have > with her,,oh, it must be pretty high now, you just bought a house, > ey.. > > .shawn:.I *do* think you might tone down your mouth because it looks > as if you're really getting upset, especially with Karta, and it > makes Realisers look kinda like shit... > devi: i agree, it makes realizers look like shit, whats happening is > very upsettig to me, but i think *unrealizers* can learn from that > too. > > > shawn:it doesn't help with any of the " taking things personally BS " > that everyone seems to suffer from when they mistakenly identify with > the bodymind. > > devi: you mistakenly identify with your body/mond complex, don't > accuse me of that > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2003 Report Share Posted April 30, 2003 Nisargadatta , shawn <shawn@w...> wrote: > on 4/29/03 4:52 AM, devianandi at devi@p... wrote: > > > > > > >>> > >>> devi: quote from steve " Devi is enlightened in my humble opinion " > >>> > >>> now shawn you better keep your word and stop harassing me.. > >> > >> steve: Why should you be bothered by what i think or say? > > devi: maybe to show you that your being hurtful to someone and until > > you drop that negative trait your not going to get it..maybe you've > > got something to work out and it's my job to help you do that > > > Shawn: > > Please understand, no one can hurt you. You are doing it to yourself. You > are not who you take yourself to be. The Self is unchanging. Stand there. Be > that. These are typed letters forming words. You give them importance and > meaning. > You are holding some ideas as " yours, " and believing in the changing to > be you. Otherwise, you would not be bothered. > )))))Shawn > devi: no one can hurt me unless i allow it. your right, i am allowing your actions to hurt me, to show you that you can be hurtful..but still this is within the realms of illusion, your just talking about how the universe works..... Now, i know this unchangining Self, better then i know anything else in the whole universe, can you say the same thing.. you should talk about what you know *absolutely* not what you think you know or have read over and over again..see, can you say that you know your real nature as the absolute reality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2003 Report Share Posted April 30, 2003 on 4/29/03 3:49 PM, devianandi at devi wrote: > Nisargadatta , shawn <shawn@w...> wrote: >> on 4/29/03 4:52 AM, devianandi at devi@p... wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>>> >>>>> devi: quote from steve " Devi is enlightened in my humble > opinion " >>>>> >>>>> now shawn you better keep your word and stop harassing me.. >>>> >>>> steve: Why should you be bothered by what i think or say? >>> devi: maybe to show you that your being hurtful to someone and > until >>> you drop that negative trait your not going to get it..maybe > you've >>> got something to work out and it's my job to help you do that >> >> >> Shawn: >> >> Please understand, no one can hurt you. You are doing it to > yourself. You >> are not who you take yourself to be. The Self is unchanging. Stand > there. Be >> that. These are typed letters forming words. You give them > importance and >> meaning. >> You are holding some ideas as " yours, " and believing in the > changing to >> be you. Otherwise, you would not be bothered. >> )))))Shawn >> > devi: no one can hurt me unless i allow it. your right, i am allowing > your actions to hurt me, to show you that you can be hurtful..but > still this is within the realms of illusion, your just talking about > how the universe works..... Now, i know this unchangining Self, > better then i know anything else in the whole universe, can you say > the same thing.. you should talk about what you know *absolutely* not > what you think you know or have read over and over again..see, can > you say that you know your real nature as the absolute reality? > I already told you i am " not " enlightened. What IS your problem? )))))))Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2003 Report Share Posted April 30, 2003 on 4/29/03 3:49 PM, devianandi at devi wrote: >to show you that you can be hurtful..but > still this is within the realms of illusion, your just talking about > how the universe works..... this is MALARKY! Now, i know this unchangining Self, > better then i know anything else in the whole universe, you liar! No " one " can know it because you......... *are it* stumble bum devi, is that your nickname? Anyone can claim they're being an asshole " on purpose " in order to teach someone something,!!!!Where do you think you are, the irus??!!! insert that letter xxxxxxxxxx( )vvvvvvvvvvv where needed ;-) PS you *do* realise devi, that by ausing this whole omotion over your prolaimed state, that you plae me as some higher authority than you and you are seeking aeptane and verifiation? ))))))))Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2003 Report Share Posted April 30, 2003 > >to show you that you can be hurtful..but > > still this is within the realms of illusion, your just talking about > > how the universe works..... > > this is MALARKY! devi: whatever you think shawn, > > > > > Now, i know this unchangining Self, > > better then i know anything else in the whole universe, > > > you liar! No " one " can know it because you......... > > *are it* devi: yes, i am it, i know that > > stumble bum devi, is that your nickname? devi: no, is that all you can revert to, name calling? >shawn: Anyone can claim they're being an asshole " on purpose " in order to teach someone something,!!!!Where do you think you are, the irus??!!! > > > insert that letter xxxxxxxxxx( )vvvvvvvvvvv where needed ;-) > > PS you *do* realise devi, that by ausing this whole omotion over your > prolaimed state, that you plae me as some higher authority than you and you > are seeking aeptane and verifiation? > > ))))))))Shawn devi:all i realize is that i'm in some sort of negative communication with a jerk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2003 Report Share Posted April 30, 2003 on 4/29/03 4:43 PM, devianandi at devi wrote: > devi:all i realize is that i'm in some sort of negative communication > with a jerk > I love you...now will you all off the dogs? you are evidently so enlightened!!!! I made a mistake, I misjudged you. I see the error of my ways. I wanna be just like you. ( I don't mean any harm ) would you like to kik me or something? I mean...what does that divine Self of yours want to do? Enough already...peae!!! )))))))))Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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