John de Ruiter

[Guest guest]

JDR: If you could achieve or attain enlightenment or anything else

of real value by holding onto something, it would be total ruin. And

you attempt to do it that way all the time. If you could simply

reach inside into your innermost being and pull up everything that is

so good and so perfect, you would take that and spread it all over

your whole life to make your life really nice... and that is why no

one can get in, when there is dishonesty.

 

If dishonesty could access the innermost, people would corrupt

themselves right to the innermost, whereas the way it is, they can

only corrupt the outermost. The innermost is incorruptable. As soon

as something corrupts in the outermost of conciousness, that part of

conciousness is incapable of getting in. And that is good.

 

Questioner: Did you say conciousness not getting in, is good?

 

JDR: For the outermost conciousness that is presently distorted or

twisted or corrupted, it is really good that it cannot reach in

toward the innermost. There is no access inside. As soon as that

allows itself to undistort and untwist until it returns to an

original way of being, then outermost conciousness can easily just

reach straight in. But then, the only reason it would reach straight

in would be to simply give itself away to the innermost, without

needing to get anything. The outermost would be recognizing that the

innermost is worth more.

 

Outermost conciousness would be giving itself away to the innermost,

and that would allow the innermost to move and flow into the

outermost. An exchange of flow would happen. The two would become

one. The two would be integrated as one. And eventually there would

be no innermost and outermost anymore. Once integrated, the two

would become the same - they would become a unified whole.

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " toby20042004 " <toby.wilson@t...> wrote:

>

> JDR: If you could achieve or attain enlightenment or anything else

> of real value by holding onto something, it would be total ruin. And

> you attempt to do it that way all the time. If you could simply

> reach inside into your innermost being and pull up everything that is

> so good and so perfect, you would take that and spread it all over

> your whole life to make your life really nice... and that is why no

> one can get in, when there is dishonesty.

>

> If dishonesty could access the innermost, people would corrupt

> themselves right to the innermost, whereas the way it is, they can

> only corrupt the outermost. The innermost is incorruptable. As soon

> as something corrupts in the outermost of conciousness, that part of

> conciousness is incapable of getting in. And that is good.

>

> Questioner: Did you say conciousness not getting in, is good?

>

> JDR: For the outermost conciousness that is presently distorted or

> twisted or corrupted, it is really good that it cannot reach in

> toward the innermost. There is no access inside. As soon as that

> allows itself to undistort and untwist until it returns to an

> original way of being, then outermost conciousness can easily just

> reach straight in. But then, the only reason it would reach straight

> in would be to simply give itself away to the innermost, without

> needing to get anything. The outermost would be recognizing that the

> innermost is worth more.

>

> Outermost conciousness would be giving itself away to the innermost,

> and that would allow the innermost to move and flow into the

> outermost. An exchange of flow would happen. The two would become

> one. The two would be integrated as one. And eventually there would

> be no innermost and outermost anymore. Once integrated, the two

> would become the same - they would become a unified whole.

 

thanks Toby

 

:-))

 

Love-Peace again, Karta