Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 Words have meaning. They stand for something, but it’s more than that because a word, conjure feelings, emotions, memories, and ideas associated with an object. We could, reading about the sexual act kindle sexual desires; reading a religious text kindle a religious feeling. Religious people considered the former bad, they don’t see the similarity, they don’t call reading a religious text to stimulate a pious experience, spiritual pornography. Words have value and we seldom question these values handed down to us. We don’t see the terrible power behind certain words: Country, God, Religion, Honor. People have been killing each other for centuries over this words. People ready to kill and die to defend the honor of their country believe they are fighting for something real, tangible. This power, words have of creating a mirror world, a mental universe, is the virtual prison, the verbal soup in which we stew. Although, we aren’t aware of it we no longer see things in themselves, we see only worthings. A worthing is a mental atom, which has as its nucleus the object (a tree) encircled by all the layers of associations that the word tree evokes. To see a pre-verbal world, a world as we saw it before we learned the meaning of words, is a liberating experience. Liberation is a process of regression to not mediated, direct awareness (awareness here simple means cognition of information) and for that to happen the verbal virtual world must loose its hallucinatory power. This doesn’t mean we must renounce words, it simply means we must see through their power of distortion, their empty promise to disclose the essence of things. Best wishes, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2003 Report Share Posted May 4, 2003 Beautiful Pete... There are apparently groups of specialized archiologists and historians who research and study full time the historical roots behind the bible. Their lifes work is in tracing back to find the most accurate records of exactly what Jesus said. You have outlined the true folly of their work. Even if they were to pin down and find out, without a sceric of doubt, the exact words Jesus used in his communications, of what value could this possibly be? The true value lies in, as you so beautifully put it, " To see through their empty promise to disclose the essence of things. " Toby Nisargadatta , " Juansi Nulo " <Juansi2@m...> wrote: > Words have meaning. They stand for something, but it's more than that because a word, conjure feelings, emotions, memories, and ideas associated with an object. We could, reading about the sexual act kindle sexual desires; reading a religious text kindle a religious feeling. Religious people considered the former bad, they don't see the similarity, they don't call reading a religious text to stimulate a pious experience, spiritual pornography. Words have value and we seldom question these values handed down to us. > > We don't see the terrible power behind certain words: Country, God, Religion, Honor. People have been killing each other for centuries over this words. People ready to kill and die to defend the honor of their country believe they are fighting for something real, tangible. This power, words have of creating a mirror world, a mental universe, is the virtual prison, the verbal soup in which we stew. > > > > Although, we aren't aware of it we no longer see things in themselves, we see only worthings. A worthing is a mental atom, which has as its nucleus the object (a tree) encircled by all the layers of associations that the word tree evokes. To see a pre-verbal world, a world as we saw it before we learned the meaning of words, is a liberating experience. > > > > Liberation is a process of regression to not mediated, direct awareness (awareness here simple means cognition of information) and for that to happen the verbal virtual world must loose its hallucinatory power. This doesn't mean we must renounce words, it simply means we must see through their power of distortion, their empty promise to disclose the essence of things. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 story: Young adults may experience a surge in aggression-related thoughts and feelings after listening to music that contains violent lyrics, new study findings suggest....(is this news?) http://news./fc? tmpl=fc & cid=34 & in=health & cat=mental_health_issues Nisargadatta , " Juansi Nulo " <Juansi2@m...> wrote: > Words have meaning. They stand for something, but it's more than that because a word, conjure feelings, emotions, memories, and ideas associated with an object. We could, reading about the sexual act kindle sexual desires; reading a religious text kindle a religious feeling. Religious people considered the former bad, they don't see the similarity, they don't call reading a religious text to stimulate a pious experience, spiritual pornography. Words have value and we seldom question these values handed down to us. > > We don't see the terrible power behind certain words: Country, God, Religion, Honor. People have been killing each other for centuries over this words. People ready to kill and die to defend the honor of their country believe they are fighting for something real, tangible. This power, words have of creating a mirror world, a mental universe, is the virtual prison, the verbal soup in which we stew. > > > > Although, we aren't aware of it we no longer see things in themselves, we see only worthings. A worthing is a mental atom, which has as its nucleus the object (a tree) encircled by all the layers of associations that the word tree evokes. To see a pre-verbal world, a world as we saw it before we learned the meaning of words, is a liberating experience. > > > > Liberation is a process of regression to not mediated, direct awareness (awareness here simple means cognition of information) and for that to happen the verbal virtual world must loose its hallucinatory power. This doesn't mean we must renounce words, it simply means we must see through their power of distortion, their empty promise to disclose the essence of things. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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