Karma and consciousness

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"The sentient being must be created in order to fulfil a particular function and not the other way round : it is not that a new function is created just so that the individual soul be punished or rewarded for his Karma in a previous birth. The supposed individual carries out his destined function, and that function paves the way for the destined function of another supposed individual in the future according to the scenario of the phenomenal manifestation. The background screen of the movie is the consciousness. The consciousness within one individual apparatus merges with the universal consciousness when that apparatus 'dies', and again infuses itself into another that is subsequently 'born'. It must be clearly understood that consciousness in one body does not differ in any way from the consciousness in another. It is the same consciousness providing sentience to all the sentient beings at all times. There must, of course, necessarily be a sort of 'solution of continuity' between the new individual form and earlier form or forms, so that the story may continue and the show may go on. Evolution goes on." - from 'Explorations into the Eternal' by Ramesh S. Balsekar-Notional though it be, Atman is the individual consciousness, Brahman is the universal consciousness, Parabrahman is the Absolute(I or Awareness).All manifestations(illusion) are the result of functioning(Prajna-ic functioning) in conscousness by the Absolute(I). Are you(Atman) agree?

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Nisargadatta , " kim ja nyun " <kjn@h...> wrote:

> " The sentient being must be created in order to fulfil a particular function

and not the other way round : it is not that a new function is created just so

that the individual soul be punished or rewarded for his Karma in a previous

birth.

> The supposed individual carries out his destined function, and that function

paves the way for the destined function of another supposed individual in the

future according to the scenario of the phenomenal manifestation.

>

> The background screen of the movie is the consciousness. The consciousness

within one individual apparatus merges with the universal consciousness when

that apparatus 'dies', and again infuses itself into another that is

subsequently 'born'.

> It must be clearly understood that consciousness in one body does not differ

in any way from the consciousness in another. It is the same consciousness

providing sentience to all the sentient beings at all times. There must, of

course, necessarily be a sort of 'solution of continuity' between the new

individual form and earlier form or forms, so that the story may continue and

the show may go on. Evolution goes on. "

> - from 'Explorations into the Eternal' by

Ramesh S. Balsekar-

>

> Notional though it be,

> Atman is the individual consciousness, Brahman is the universal consciousness,

Parabrahman is the Absolute(I or Awareness).

> All manifestations(illusion) are the result of functioning(Prajna-ic

functioning) in conscousness by the Absolute(I).

>

> Are you(Atman) agree?

 

 

please post the folowing sentences

from Ramesh

 

Karta

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In response to karta's request,The following sentences (p67~p68) in 'Explorations into the External' by Ramesh S. Balsekar "Nature does not start from scratch every time. This is no doubt the reason why a Mozart could compose music when he was only twelve, and a Jnaneshwar could produce the Jnaneshwari at the tender age of sixteen. But there is certainly no need for a conceptual individual(that can not exist except as an appearance) to identify himself with a series of bodies in the temporal manifestation. As the Buddha has put it: "As there is no Self, there is no transmigration of Self; but there are deeds and continued effects of deeds. These are deeds being done but there is no doer. There is no entity the migrates, no Self is transferred from one place to another; but there is a voice uttered here and the echo of it comes back." And then of course the problem remains : what about the very first human being? On what Karma was his existence based? The only answer to the maze of many such questions and problems in what the sages have said : the entire manifestation is a concept, and nothing is created and nothing is destroyed. It is rather interesting to note that a modern astronomer, as eminent as Sir Fred Hoyle, says that the idea of time as an ever-rolling stream from past to future is definitely wrong, that it is "a grotesque and absurd illusion", and that "we are the victims of confidence trick." He might as well have said that we are under the illusory influence of Maya. Then there are the Feynman's diagrams(which got him the Novel Prize in 1965) in which particles are made to move backwards in time through for a brief instant!. Everything becomes benignly clear in the true perspective of the totality of manifestation as a conceptual creation by consciousness in consciousness, perceived and cognized by consciousness through the millions of apparatuses called sentient beings. The malignity of problems arises only when there is a mistaken identification with the apparatus as a separate entity that he thinks he is in control of. When one was born one had no choice, nor does one have a choice when faced with imminent "death". In between birth and death, however, man considers himself the master of his destiny!"- satkartar7 Nisargadatta Friday, June 20, 2003 4:38 PM Re: Karma and consciousnessNisargadatta , "kim ja nyun" <kjn@h...> wrote:> "The sentient being must be created in order to fulfil a particular function and not the other way round : it is not that a new function is created just so that the individual soul be punished or rewarded for his Karma in a previous birth. > The supposed individual carries out his destined function, and that function paves the way for the destined function of another supposed individual in the future according to the scenario of the phenomenal manifestation.> > The background screen of the movie is the consciousness. The consciousness within one individual apparatus merges with the universal consciousness when that apparatus 'dies', and again infuses itself into another that is subsequently 'born'. > It must be clearly understood that consciousness in one body does not differ in any way from the consciousness in another. It is the same consciousness providing sentience to all the sentient beings at all times. There must, of course, necessarily be a sort of 'solution of continuity' between the new individual form and earlier form or forms, so that the story may continue and the show may go on. Evolution goes on."> - from 'Explorations into the Eternal' by Ramesh S. Balsekar-> > Notional though it be, > Atman is the individual consciousness, Brahman is the universal consciousness, Parabrahman is the Absolute(I or Awareness).> All manifestations(illusion) are the result of functioning(Prajna-ic functioning) in conscousness by the Absolute(I).> > Are you(Atman) agree?please post the folowing sentencesfrom Ramesh Karta