Guest guest Posted June 29, 2003 Report Share Posted June 29, 2003 If I am exist for myself and off course all of these things and all people nothing exist. I dont know about myself but I know what anything appear to me. The points of, I know mself but I can't prove about Myself. I know anything appear to me but anything is not me. Everything is only perception from Me. Nothing external reality, everything is created by Me. Why I must created something that doesn't exist? Everything always exist but changes, and I am always exist but always immutable. If I am only exist, you and all about we talk is not meaning anything. Cause only I am , all of you is created by me,and why I am trust/believe about all. For the final conclusion, no matter anything, only faith about I am , I dont care anything , I mean non attachment for anything, forget about people exist or doesn't exist. Only witness anything without interest, and make sure all is created by I am. Not I am disappear but anything disappear/dead/ruin by I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2003 Report Share Posted June 29, 2003 on 6/28/03 6:15 PM, subhuti_gaya at subhuti_gaya wrote: > If I am exist for myself and off course all of these things and all > people nothing exist. I dont know about myself but I know what > anything appear to me. The points of, I know mself but I can't prove > about Myself. I know anything appear to me but anything is not me. > Everything is only perception from Me. Nothing external reality, > everything is created by Me. Why I must created something that > doesn't exist? Everything always exist but changes, and I am always > exist but always immutable. > If I am only exist, you and all about we talk is not meaning > anything. Cause only I am , all of you is created by me,and why I am > trust/believe about all. > For the final conclusion, no matter anything, only faith about I am , > I dont care anything , I mean non attachment for anything, forget > about people exist or doesn't exist. Only witness anything without > interest, and make sure all is created by I am. Not I am disappear > but anything disappear/dead/ruin by I am. > > Staying with the *feeling* I am. Not a mental exercise. ))))Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2003 Report Share Posted June 29, 2003 > Staying with the *feeling* I am. Not a mental exercise. Nisargadatta says over and over " the *feeling* I am " . But most people seem to miss that. And you will find that it is deeper than feeling really. More like the place where feeling comes from. And going through that door... whooosh!! -Bill shawn [shawn] Sunday, June 29, 2003 1:56 AM Nisargadatta Re: Problem about " I am " on 6/28/03 6:15 PM, subhuti_gaya at subhuti_gaya wrote: > If I am exist for myself and off course all of these things and all > people nothing exist. I dont know about myself but I know what > anything appear to me. The points of, I know mself but I can't prove > about Myself. I know anything appear to me but anything is not me. > Everything is only perception from Me. Nothing external reality, > everything is created by Me. Why I must created something that > doesn't exist? Everything always exist but changes, and I am always > exist but always immutable. > If I am only exist, you and all about we talk is not meaning > anything. Cause only I am , all of you is created by me,and why I am > trust/believe about all. > For the final conclusion, no matter anything, only faith about I am , > I dont care anything , I mean non attachment for anything, forget > about people exist or doesn't exist. Only witness anything without > interest, and make sure all is created by I am. Not I am disappear > but anything disappear/dead/ruin by I am. > > Staying with the *feeling* I am. Not a mental exercise. ))))Shawn ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2003 Report Share Posted July 1, 2003 Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@x> wrote: > > Staying with the *feeling* I am. Not a mental exercise. > Nisargadatta says over and over " the *feeling* I am " . > But most people seem to miss that. > > And you will find that it is deeper than feeling really. > More like the place where feeling comes from. > > And going through that door... whooosh!! > > -Bill > Dear Bill > Please more clearly about 'feeling I am " . I used think about and comprehend with deeply thougt all about nisargadatta says. My attachment and my emotion will be lesser if I am think his words, and always read and think about about his words are my pracices. Is it correct ? Thanks subhuti > > shawn [shawn@w...] > Sunday, June 29, 2003 1:56 AM > Nisargadatta > Re: Problem about " I am " > > > on 6/28/03 6:15 PM, subhuti_gaya at subhuti_gaya wrote: > > > If I am exist for myself and off course all of these things and all > > people nothing exist. I dont know about myself but I know what > > anything appear to me. The points of, I know mself but I can't prove > > about Myself. I know anything appear to me but anything is not me. > > Everything is only perception from Me. Nothing external reality, > > everything is created by Me. Why I must created something that > > doesn't exist? Everything always exist but changes, and I am always > > exist but always immutable. > > If I am only exist, you and all about we talk is not meaning > > anything. Cause only I am , all of you is created by me,and why I am > > trust/believe about all. > > For the final conclusion, no matter anything, only faith about I am , > > I dont care anything , I mean non attachment for anything, forget > > about people exist or doesn't exist. Only witness anything without > > interest, and make sure all is created by I am. Not I am disappear > > but anything disappear/dead/ruin by I am. > > > > > > > Staying with the *feeling* I am. Not a mental exercise. > > ))))Shawn > > > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta > group and click on Save Changes. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 on 7/1/03 4:21 AM, subhuti_gaya at subhuti_gaya wrote: >> Dear Bill >> Please more clearly about 'feeling I am " . I used think about and > comprehend with deeply thougt all about nisargadatta says. My > attachment and my emotion will be lesser if I am think his words, and > always read and think about about his words are my pracices. Is it > correct ? > Thanks > subhuti It seems to me... here is where real honesty comes in to play. This is not about doing a " technique " as it is more to do with the the desire to know the truth about *who* or *what* one is. Is that what you really want? Thoughts come up and feelings too, and instead of being carried away by the thought or feeling, see who does it appear to? If you still want a great experience, then you will naturally be carried away by thoughts and feelings in hope that that is where the quenching of your desire lies. You must become fed up with experience---ALL experience is temporary, so you naturally turn away from them and give attention ( bakti) to the *one is witness* to it all. ALL thought is not you- watch it and thereby be not attatched. If the thoughts are too many and too fast and you get carried away by them then it is recommended that you use breathing and concentration on the breath to calm the mind and then use the self-enquiry. Japa also helps to concentrate. You must want it bad!!! You must see how you are a bundle of memories and learned behavior...an actor playing the part of " you " and yet have taken his " part " too seriously! You can change parts anytime. You are always already free, you are not the one you think yourself to be! The great seperation between you and God is thought up, untrue! This desperado in search of fulfillment is already whole and immagining otherwise. BEFORE you think about it, you are fine, already happy, love itself. Your limitations are merely believed in. You are free to stop and notice this at anytime and the more often you notice, the more it is natural for you not to identify with the body-mind. Pondering over his words is a good thing, my friend. It will lead beyond. Maharaj is with you. )))))Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2003 Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 Nisargadatta , shawn <shawn@w...> wrote: > on 7/1/03 4:21 AM, subhuti_gaya at subhuti_gaya wrote: > > > >> Dear Bill > >> Please more clearly about 'feeling I am " . I used think about and > > comprehend with deeply thougt all about nisargadatta says. My > > attachment and my emotion will be lesser if I am think his words, and > > always read and think about about his words are my pracices. Is it > > correct ? > > Thanks > > subhuti > > > It seems to me... here is where real honesty comes in to play. This is not > about doing a " technique " as it is more to do with the the desire to know > the truth about *who* or *what* one is. Is that what you really want? > Thoughts come up and feelings too, and instead of being carried away by the > thought or feeling, see who does it appear to? If you still want a great > experience, then you will naturally be carried away by thoughts and feelings > in hope that that is where the quenching of your desire lies. You must > become fed up with experience---ALL experience is temporary, so you > naturally turn away from them and give attention ( bakti) to the *one is > witness* to it all. this is great wording: " attention (bakti) " for me who is still sruggling with the bakti vs jnana > ALL thought is not you- watch it and thereby be not > attatched. If the thoughts are too many and too fast and you get carried > away by them then it is recommended that you use breathing and concentration > on the breath to calm the mind and then use the self-enquiry. Japa also > helps to concentrate. > You must want it bad!!! You must see how you are a bundle of memories and > learned behavior...an actor playing the part of " you " and yet have taken his > " part " too seriously! You can change parts anytime. You are always already > free, you are not the one you think yourself to be! The great seperation > between you and God is thought up, untrue! This desperado in search of > fulfillment is already whole and immagining otherwise. BEFORE you think > about it, you are fine, already happy, love itself. Your limitations are > merely believed in. You are free to stop and notice this at anytime and the > more often you notice, the more it is natural for you not to identify with > the body-mind. > Pondering over his words is a good thing, my friend. It will lead beyond. > Maharaj is with you. > > )))))Shawn Karta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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