Question and Answer about Practice

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Thanks for all

Because practice is pivotal point in spirituality, I want more discuss

to all for more detail. I feel all answering still not clear to me (I

feel sorry about that).

Elizabet answer is:

1. Elizabet answer is:

Be still and know that

~~~~~~~ I AM ~~~~~~~.

That is the practice.

(she is not clear to me, because she doesn't specific about that: is

it contemplation or mantra? How we do? Continuously or if only there's

trouble with our mind? Is we need special place like quiet place or

anytime and any place?

2 Toby answer:

So full of divine potentiality

past the point of overflow,

A liquid resonance melting

All except that which we truly know.

A pulsing ocean of stillness

In deep suspension, we float,

The gentle touch of this golden flower

Plays such a soothing note.

(I think is answer still not clear, is it like watching our condition

in deep meditation? We see our thoughts our sensation and we only

watch. I think it is like zazen meditation. Is it correct?

3.Bil answer:

a. It is a very deep question and will take some time

to answer properly, time that has been very scarce

of late.( I still wait your answer Bill,thanks)

b. Comment for tob( and bill agree): It floats gently in stillness.

(I think is like zazen meditation, silent meditation,is it right?). I

think nisargadatta stress for questioning about sentence like

Maharshi `who am I' or his words himself `Give all your attention to

this question `What is it that makes me conscious?' until your mind

become the question itself and can not think of anything else (447:

ASMI compiled Miguel Angel Carrasco)

Please see the others: `Somehow it was very simple and easy in my

case .My Guru before he died ,told me: `Believe me you are the supreme

reality .Don't doubt my words and don't disbelieve me. I am telling

you the truth ,act on it " . I could not foget his words and by not

forgetting , I have realized…………. I found myself desiring and

knowing less and less , until I could say in utter astonishment `I

know nothing , I want nothing " (390-1; ASMI compiled Miguel Angel

Carrasco).

4. Hur Guler answer:

a. Although there's nothing wrong with repeating the words " I am, " for

maharaj " I am " is not a mantra.(rejecting mantra practice)

b. again, there's nothing wrong with doing this (and in fact it often

happens when we sit in silence) but there's no effort suggested in

watching any thoughts.( It seems Hur accept this, he stressing no

effort for practice watching ; and off course for watching we don't

need special effort. Is it your suggest, Hur ?

c.Question (me): Is it like to thinking about these words/sentences and

> contemplation and make understanding become richer and stable and

then

> we know `I am `with deep faith and understanding become

effortlessly?

 

Mr Hur answer:again, nothing wrong with doing that but no mental

process is

required for what maharaj suggests. i think that's why hindus call

jnana yoga as the simplest but the hardest form of yoga.

(Comment : What the meaning `but no mental process is required for

maharaj suggest'? I think if we contemplate scripture or questioning

`who am I' for the first time mental process must involved after long

period practice become effortless.(mental process become automated )

d. Hur answer: in silence

meditate as consciousness

on consciousness

nothing else

(Is it like watching meditation? Please more clearly

 

 

Point of my questions is:

1.When we doing practice , we must have special place or time or not ?

(in silent meditation/zazen , normally we can do that practice but we

can not do in midst activity is very hard to do. But maybe we can do

like zen practice: When we walk we aware we walking , when we eat we

know/ aware we eat)

2. Can we practice in midst activity?

( when we have deep faith , and always have questioning anything ,we

can practice like that, except silent meditation).

3. What difference nisargadatya practice with the other practice, is

Nisargadatta more special than the others? (Hur answer : " i am " and

" the sense of being " and consciousness, and even

ramana's " self-inquiry " all mean the same but He suggest watching

practice in seat meditation.

4. I think nisargadatta more stressing for practicing about' inquiry'

, and `negation' practice. Like `who am I',or ' Remember , nothing

you perceive is you own'. (I think the practice similar like `koan

zen' practice but nisargadatta more stressing to be become deep faith,

and in zen , `questioning/inquiry' more stressed for no answer

anything, to break and destroy logical/mental condition process.

Thanks for your reply

Subhuti