Guest guest Posted July 8, 2003 Report Share Posted July 8, 2003 Hi Mario, You did an extraordinary job in asking that question, and I'm afraid this answer is going to fall short, but let's give it a try. What in my opinion Majarah is always saying is: only the sense of 'I am' lives, dies and reincarnates. Every person that ever lived, lives, or will live represents one chapter in the book of 'I am.' That 'I am' feeling in you is the same as it is in me. The consciousness is also the same. Only the story lines are different, the memories, the time and place perspectives. When it's clear to you that it's 'you' all the time, even if you don't remember, then morality makes all the sense in the world. There have been cases of people who can remember nothing from one day to the next, yet they know tomorrow when they don't remember today, they still will have to live with the consequences of what they did today, so it wouldn't be wise to foul the house up. And we are doing that with the planet today, and will pay for it tomorrow. You invented the wheel and because you did, today you drive a car. You were the first to kill a fellow man and today you have to live with murder as a way to die. From one life to the next we imagine a time called death but that might not be because unconsciousness is outside time. All these billions of stories played simultaneously by this one a actor 'I am' are changing the play and the roles with ever increasing speed. Humanity( you) is reaching a threshold. Can you hear the roar of the waterfall? Best, Pete SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2003 Report Share Posted July 8, 2003 Nisargadatta , " THERMOTRONICS - DIRETORIA " <diretoria@t...> wrote: > Other consequence would be that we will never meet again our dear loved ones whose body/mind died before us. Mario, What if you can? How old would that " you " be. And your Mom and Dad and Grandma...wouldn't they want to be younger than you would want? If that happens, must not it happen in your mind? ))))Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 Hi Pete, I've been thinking about " me " that might reincarnate....as per Mario's questions. Our " me " is constantly in flux, changing and so if something like that happens, it must be more of the same. When in dreamless sleep, we say we were happy and got rested, but were ignorant of " being there. " The happyness and rest is profound because of the lack of an identity. and lack of " other " (from which is fear )So the thing to do, is to find out how to be there consciously and yet have no identity that might create anxiousness. We are told to *find* that identity and in that searching discover that all is changing and observable by me, even those parts that I thought were me. That *me* discards more and more of what we discover to be " not us. " Ultimately finding out and understanding it's non-beingness, and yet who finds it? ))))))Shawn Nisargadatta , pete seesaw <seesaw1us> wrote: > Hi Mario, > > You did an extraordinary job in asking that question, and I'm afraid this answer is going to fall short, but let's give it a try. What in my opinion Majarah is always saying is: > only the sense of 'I am' lives, dies and reincarnates. Every person that ever lived, lives, or will live represents one chapter in the book of 'I am.' That 'I am' feeling in you is the same > as it is in me. The consciousness is also the same. Only the story lines are different, the memories, the time and place perspectives. When it's clear to you that it's 'you' all the time, even if you don't remember, then morality makes all the sense in the world. There > have been cases of people who can remember nothing from one day to the next, yet > they know tomorrow when they don't remember today, they still will have to live with > the consequences of what they did today, so it wouldn't be wise to foul the house up. > And we are doing that with the planet today, and will pay for it tomorrow. You invented the wheel and because you did, today you drive a car. You were the first to kill a fellow man and today you have to live with murder as a way to die. > > From one life to the next we imagine a time called death but that might not be because unconsciousness is outside time. All these billions of stories played simultaneously by this one a actor 'I am' are changing the play and the roles with ever increasing speed. > Humanity( you) is reaching a threshold. Can you hear the roar of the waterfall? > > Best, > > Pete > > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 Nisargadatta , " Shawn Hair " <shawn@w...> wrote: > Hi Pete, > > I've been thinking about " me " that might reincarnate....as per > Mario's questions. > Our " me " is constantly in flux, changing and so if something like > that happens, it must be more of the same. > When in dreamless sleep, we say we were happy and got > rested, but were ignorant of " being there. " > The happyness and rest is profound because of the lack of an > identity. and lack of " other " (from which is fear )So the thing to do, > is to find out how to be there consciously and yet have no identity > that might create anxiousness. > We are told to *find* that identity and in that searching discover > that all is changing and observable by me, even those parts that > I thought were me. That *me* discards more and more of what > we discover to be " not us. " Ultimately finding out and > understanding it's non-beingness, and yet who finds it? > > > ))))))Shawn Hi Shawn, Yes, what you wrote is fine. Non- being is also being and it's always here. The Emperor always gets new clothes, but the emperor is at his best naked, so when the clothes get old and transparent is the best of both worlds. Cover your croch Shawn, you'are talking naked now. ) Pete > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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