Guest guest Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 Generally, when people study teachings and follow someone such as Nisargadatta it because they see something in the teacher they want. I would like to know what if anything anyone sees in Nisargadatta they want for themselves? Thank you...patricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 Great question Patricia. > > patricia370009 [sMTP:patricia370009] > Monday, July 21, 2003 4:50 AM > Nisargadatta > question > > Generally, when people study teachings and follow someone such as > Nisargadatta it because they see something in the teacher they > want. I would like to know what if anything anyone sees in > Nisargadatta they want for themselves? > > Thank you...patricia > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 on 7/20/03 8:50 AM, patricia370009 at patricia370009 wrote: > Generally, when people study teachings and follow someone such as > Nisargadatta it because they see something in the teacher they > want. I would like to know what if anything anyone sees in > Nisargadatta they want for themselves? > > Thank you...patricia Patricia, I'll show you mine, then you show me yours, okay? I see the the complete non-identification with a particular something seperate from all else (bodymind), and the total and complete confidence and knowledge of what one is (even though it is in the negative, what he is not). I want that,... I feel it is my *birthright*. What is it you see and want? ))))))Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 Nisargadatta , " patricia370009 " <patricia370009> wrote: > Generally, when people study teachings and follow someone such as > Nisargadatta it because they see something in the teacher they > want. I would like to know what if anything anyone sees in > Nisargadatta they want for themselves? > hi patricia, this idea occurred to me as well. in the past, when i observed some devotees and their gurus, i tried to make a connection. for example, goofy type of people, do they choose a goofy guru? or are they really choosing? when nisargadatta appeared as ramesh's guru, what did ramesh see in maharaj? wayne liqourman's guru is ramesh but as far as i know, wayne does not feel that way about nisargadatta. so the pattern does not always fit. another example: it's tempting to say that since francis lucille used to be a french scientist, his fans are scientific types who're into dry version of advaita...but this is not always true either. do we idealize certain qualities and look for those attributes in a guru and in our beloved. is that also how we fall in love? those idealized qualities may not even be our own ideals...but what's been worked out in the evolutionary program. i don't really know how it works. it's a mystery to me. when i read a few chapters from " i am that, " something interesting happened and maharaj's words kept repeating themselves in my mind and love was born in my heart for maharaj. is maharaj my guru? i have no idea. am i following maharaj's teachings? i don't even know if maharaj has any teachings to follow other than his consciosness (or rather identity) shifting sayings...that point to consciousness...so even the word guru does not always fit the pattern. there may be some truth to your question. perhaps gurus give us certainty and conviction about ultimate reality...the certainty that we desire? it's sort of hard to imagine a fumbling woody allen type of a guru, who's not sure about anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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