Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 Does anyone have any techniques for dealing with severe anxiety (sans medication)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 Dear Shawn, There is no need for any techniques - the understanding what fear is is absolut adequate. What is fear: Whenever there is waiting some future unpleasant or seeming painful event one has to meet, then in most cases the brain will produce thoughts of avoidance. This avoidance is a movement away from and therefore it is flight. But any flight, no matter away from an actual or future danger will inevitably produce flight energy (adrenaline, higher pulse rate, etc.) Now: When the danger is actual then one can handle it through flight and the flight energy gets consumed and dissipated by that flight, but an imagined future danger one cannot escape and deal with just because it is not actual. Therefore the flight energy will not get dissipated but stays in the organism and causes a very unpleasant sensation. This unpleasant sensation of not consumed flight energy is called " fear " . Now the solution is very simple: Never to allow oneself a movement away from a future danger. One always has to move towards it. " Fear is the movement away from " ! Werner Nisargadatta , " Shawn " <shawnregan> wrote: > Does anyone have any techniques for dealing with severe anxiety > (sans medication)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Yes , the anxiety is one state of your mind . You have to focus your atention in your self , not in your mind . You can used mental control , or trascendental meditation , or any techniques like yoga , to make better your concetration , and to know your self. God bless you . >"Shawn" >Nisargadatta >Nisargadatta > Anxiety >Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:45:30 -0000 > >Does anyone have any techniques for dealing with severe anxiety >(sans medication)? > Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: Haz clic aquí Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Shawn, Anxiety is just as much physical as it is " spiritual " for want of a better term. I'm sure the responses from this group will be regarding the " spiritual, mental and emotional " side of things so I will deal with the physical alone. There is always a balance between the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system within the body. Severe anxiety manifests as a consequence of the dominance of the sympathetic nervous system over the parasympathetic. The sympathetic nervous system can be categorised by the " fight or flight response " , the heart rate increases, perspiration occurs, skin becomes pale as the blood is driven inward, digestion is hampered, etc. The parasympathetic is the opposite, it is relaxing, promotes digestion, heart rate slows, etc. So you may notice with long term anxiety often comes constipation or even diarrhoea and other digestive difficulties, a tendency to feel the cold more than others and so on. Nothing stimulates the sympathetic nervous system like sugar. Carbohydrates are simply long molecular chains of glucose. So I would recommend increasing your intake of fat (good quality natural fats), and eating quality carbohydrates in moderation, while cutting sugar out completely. Every time glucose enters the digestive system, the pancreas excretes the anabolic hormone insulin. Magnesium is used up in the creation and action of insulin within the body. And what is the role of intracellular magnesium? To relax muscles. So you eat lots of glucose, in the form of sugar or carbohydrates and you loose magnesium, increasing the tension within the body. Good fats are very nourishing to the nervous system. They are calming to the body. In fact, many world leading nutritionists recommend a diet consisting of up to 60% fat. It is a much more efficient and cleaner fuel for the body than glucose. Before the new drug age, epilepsy used to also be treated successfully with high fat diets. Anyway, if you're interested in any further research in this area, just email me privately and I'll point you in the right direction. Toby > > Shawn [sMTP:shawnregan] > Wednesday, July 23, 2003 4:46 AM > Nisargadatta > Anxiety > > Does anyone have any techniques for dealing with severe anxiety > (sans medication)? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Shawn, Try watching your breath. Breath slowly and in a relaxed manner and watch the breath at the tip of the nostrils. Your awareness is the parking attendant and the breath, the cars. When your mind wanders, as soon as you notice, come back to the breath. Ask your self *who* feels anxious. If you feel it, isn't it an object to you? Is there something bad about being anxious? Sometimes when meditating, there is a great energy released into the body. Any physical excercise will help disapate it or the energy maybe used for more intense self-enquiry. Also, *you* as a particular identity, who you think and feel yourself to be gets loosened by enquiry. Feeling your familiar supports slipping away may cause fear and anxiety. Trust in your guru, your God, your self, whatever you may feel that is living you is important. You ARE loved... If you were in charge, wouldn't you be a gentle and loving God? The clinging to ideas will go as we enter into the same unknown that has always been. But now you will know it as yourself. ))))))other Shawn on 7/22/03 5:29 PM, Wilson, Toby at toby.wilson wrote: > Shawn, > > Anxiety is just as much physical as it is " spiritual " for want of a better > term. I'm sure the responses from this group will be regarding the > " spiritual, mental and emotional " side of things so I will deal with the > physical alone. > > There is always a balance between the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous > system within the body. Severe anxiety manifests as a consequence of the > dominance of the sympathetic nervous system over the parasympathetic. > > The sympathetic nervous system can be categorised by the " fight or flight > response " , the heart rate increases, perspiration occurs, skin becomes pale as > the blood is driven inward, digestion is hampered, etc. > > The parasympathetic is the opposite, it is relaxing, promotes digestion, heart > rate slows, etc. > > So you may notice with long term anxiety often comes constipation or even > diarrhoea and other digestive difficulties, a tendency to feel the cold more > than others and so on. > > Nothing stimulates the sympathetic nervous system like sugar. Carbohydrates > are simply long molecular chains of glucose. So I would recommend increasing > your intake of fat (good quality natural fats), and eating quality > carbohydrates in moderation, while cutting sugar out completely. > > Every time glucose enters the digestive system, the pancreas excretes the > anabolic hormone insulin. Magnesium is used up in the creation and action of > insulin within the body. And what is the role of intracellular magnesium? To > relax muscles. So you eat lots of glucose, in the form of sugar or > carbohydrates and you loose magnesium, increasing the tension within the body. > > Good fats are very nourishing to the nervous system. They are calming to the > body. In fact, many world leading nutritionists recommend a diet consisting > of up to 60% fat. It is a much more efficient and cleaner fuel for the body > than glucose. > > Before the new drug age, epilepsy used to also be treated successfully with > high fat diets. > > Anyway, if you're interested in any further research in this area, just email > me privately and I'll point you in the right direction. > > Toby > > > >> >> Shawn [sMTP:shawnregan] >> Wednesday, July 23, 2003 4:46 AM >> Nisargadatta >> Anxiety >> >> Does anyone have any techniques for dealing with severe anxiety >> (sans medication)? >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Dear Group, I enjoy the contributions here very much. As a medical doctor who specialises in the treatment of anxiety without drugs, I think I should mention to all concerned that a revolutionary, simple and effective self-help treatment based on acupressure is now available to the world. I am not making a commercial here. The technique is freely available to all. It is by far the best technique I have ever found. Please see the homepage of EFT in the USA: www.emofree.com there is a free downloadable Manual there. I would also wish to imply that relieving such anxieties has little to do with spiritual awareness for most sufferers--they cannot make the awareness work to heal themselves! Regards to all David Lake - <Nisargadatta > <Nisargadatta > Wednesday, July 23, 2003 5:43 PM Digest Number 951 > > Message: 3 > Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:45:30 -0000 > " Shawn " <shawnregan > Anxiety > > Does anyone have any techniques for dealing with severe anxiety > (sans medication)? > > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Dear Shawn, > > There is no need for any techniques - the understanding what fear is > is absolut adequate. > > What is fear: Hey, I thought the dude asked about anxiety, not fear. <SNIP> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Hey SNIP, Tell me a real convincing difference between anxiety and fear and I instantly will delete my posting. Werner Nisargadatta , " Sandeep " <sandeepc@b...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > > Dear Shawn, > > > > There is no need for any techniques - the understanding what fear > is > > is absolut adequate. > > > > What is fear: > > > > Hey, I thought the dude asked about anxiety, not fear. > > <SNIP> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2003 Report Share Posted July 25, 2003 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Hey SNIP, > > Tell me a real convincing difference between anxiety and fear and I > instantly will delete my posting. > > Werner Yoohooo Werner, Whether, real, convincing........<yawn> Fear is biological,... and is always in the moment. And is a natural expressing of the functioning of the manifest object,.... " wired " for survival. Anxiety is in time. <SNIP> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2003 Report Share Posted July 25, 2003 > Yoohooo Werner, > > Whether, real, convincing........<yawn> > > Fear is biological,... and is always in the moment. > And is a natural expressing of the functioning of the manifest > object,.... " wired " for survival. > > Anxiety is in time. > What experience is not biological? And what else exists other than this moment? The fear of embarassment or the fear of looking foolish are not natural expressions of the functioning of the manifest object,.... " wired " for survival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.