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Ahao Dan,

 

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dan330033

Nisargadatta

Tuesday, July 29, 2003 09:42 PM

Re: The thingy known as Consciousness

 

 

Hi San --

 

I like what you have to say on this subject.

 

If you're going to assert:

 

> To state Consciousness is......... " that " , from

which..............

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> .....or.......

> ............. Consciousness, is such and such......

>

> .., would it not need a position separate from Consciousness,

in order to make that affirmation?

 

a statement with which I agree,

 

and this:

 

> If all positions, are nothing but arisings of Consciousness,

can there be an answer to the question, an answer which in

essence,... is not a conditioned hoopla?

 

which, indeed, follows,

 

then, when you say:

 

> For example, the conditioning in the affirmation " That from

which every instant arises " , being......... there is something which

arises.

 

you've discounted your own statements (which, if not arising, can't

be read or responded to)

 

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Can you come again on that, Dan?

 

 

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> And that's a cop-out,...... which says, the answer is non-

verbalized, it has to be experienced in the silence of the heart in

the right side of the chest, or whichever part of the body.

 

but then, your statement also is a cop-out, because it has

to arise to pronounce that another statement is a cop-out

 

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Sure.

 

That is why, for all the offerings offered all over,...... the term

used,.... has been " prattlings " .

 

 

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> So,.....Nisargadatta, Ramana and Ramesh were/are bullshitters

of the highest class?

 

If so, then how do you rank your bullshit in respect to theirs?

 

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The bullshitiness is not in the signaturings on flowing water.

 

The bullshittiness is in the belief that they are anything other than

that,........ and thus in the question of ranking them.

 

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Elsewhere, you asked with what connotation do I use the term hoopla.

 

Hoopla,..........a tale full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

 

Hoopla..........

 

In the evening dusk, bamboo shadows sweeping the courtyard,.......

with great gusto,

 

Not a mote of dust gets stirred.