Guest guest Posted August 8, 2003 Report Share Posted August 8, 2003 Nisargadatta , " Toby " <toby.wilson@t...> wrote: > > > I've never been absolute, nor has anything I've said > > ever had any absolute value. > > > > In fact, the word " absolute " and any ideas about > > what the absolute is, are relative to whomever > > is saying that, and whomever is hearing, or reading > > the words, processing the ideas. > > > > So, yes, this is a non-absolute Dan, as new as Toby is > > this moment, and as updated as " now, " which never > > moves anywhere, or changes into anything, could be. > > > > -- Dan > > > I would haullucinate that you have never been anything but absolute > and there is " nothing " that has " any " absolute value. Once you or I say this, or anything at all about it, we are liars. We shouldn't avoid lying, because truth makes liars of us all. And we mustn't hate lying, for it is inevitable. But let's not enjoy it too much either, because it's not an end in itself. > The absolute is not an idea. No ideas attach to the absolute, about > what it is, how to " get " there, how it works and so on. It > simply " is " , whatever " is " , as " is " . Nothing more, nothing less. Insofar as one can speak of it, this is as fine a lie as any that has ever been told. The one who knows what makes it a lie, is laughing without sound, never having known an untruth at any time. > > > and as updated as " now, " which never > > > moves anywhere, or changes into anything. > > I associate the imaginary idea or concept of " beautifully written " > with these words. ;-) Cool, Toby! Blame yourself! ;-) -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2003 Report Share Posted August 8, 2003 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Wilson, Toby " > <toby.wilson@t...> wrote: > > > > > And, if I were deprived of oxygen, and kicking > > > and painfully attempting to gasp for breath that wasn't > > > there, I died -- the totality of manifestation > > > would go on just as it is -- timelessly. > > > > > > -- Dan > > > > > > > > It seems there is an association with " I " and the physical body. > Is this a new, updated, non-absolute Dan we are dealing with here? > > > > > > Toby > > I've never been absolute, nor has anything I've said > ever had any absolute value. > > In fact, the word " absolute " and any ideas about > what the absolute is, are relative to whomever > is saying that, and whomever is hearing, or reading > the words, processing the ideas. > > So, yes, this is a non-absolute Dan, as new as Toby is > this moment, and as updated as " now, " which never > moves anywhere, or changes into anything, could be. > > -- Dan Well, Dan, you have certainly got it covered! It's Dan for all occasions! laughing, Freyja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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