Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 It appears that Grace fortunately finds ways to dissolve ignorance. Both in Colorado and Thailand I searched out the company of the wise. (Actually since childhood.) While relaxing at a rustic resort on a small island in the Gulf of Thailand a young man from Holland began a conversation on what I was reading; turned out his interest was also in Adaviata Vedanta. From that I learned not to worry about finding a group, groups will appear as needed. Some postings on this site reminded me that at one time I was quite worried about what direction in which to go, Jnana or Bhakti. While sitting with Nisargadatta Maharaj it was obvious no choice was required ,as he was both, and they are one. John Cox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Did you actually meet Nisaegadatta? If so, please share your impressions. Nisargadatta , " jcoxco " <jcoxco> wrote: > It appears that Grace fortunately finds ways to dissolve ignorance. > Both in Colorado and Thailand I searched out the company of the > wise. (Actually since childhood.) While relaxing at a rustic resort > on a small island in the Gulf of Thailand a young man from Holland > began a conversation on what I was reading; turned out his interest > was also in Adaviata Vedanta. From that I learned not to worry about > finding a group, groups will appear as needed. Some postings on this > site reminded me that at one time I was quite worried about what > direction in which to go, Jnana or Bhakti. While sitting with > Nisargadatta Maharaj it was obvious no choice was required ,as he was > both, and they are one. John Cox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2003 Report Share Posted September 7, 2003 I was enabled to be among those who visited Maharaj recently, 1979 to locate in external time. Impressions? First a mixture of my fear and awe affects impressions, as does his self-proclaimed contradictions: Amazement at how he could oft times go right to the heart of a visiters condition. In my case, before i spoke a word he said, " You have no fear of death, is that correct? " To my agreeing he said " Now all you need to know is how to live. Listen, relax, ask questions as they arise. " In other cases he was a surgeon getting to the actual 'problem'. Such gentleness, even on the ocassions when he was quite combative. Humerous, unpredictable, giving in all aspects. Receptive always. Spiritual, yet attuned and caring to the day-to day situations of all those around him. Tolerant of those who were rude and arrogant,but no tolerance at all for those who wanted to take advantage of his followers, or those who came to enhance their ego, or gain prestege. But the constant impression was of love and wisdom. A lasting wonder was seeing his enjoyment when his fellow Maharaj, his longtime followers, and Ramana Maharshi's longtime deciples came to meetings. Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> wrote: > Did you actually meet Nisaegadatta? If so, please share your > impressions. > > Nisargadatta , " jcoxco " <jcoxco> wrote: > > It appears that Grace fortunately finds ways to dissolve > ignorance. > > Both in Colorado and Thailand I searched out the company of the > > wise. (Actually since childhood.) While relaxing at a rustic > resort > > on a small island in the Gulf of Thailand a young man from Holland > > began a conversation on what I was reading; turned out his interest > > was also in Adaviata Vedanta. From that I learned not to worry > about > > finding a group, groups will appear as needed. Some postings on > this > > site reminded me that at one time I was quite worried about what > > direction in which to go, Jnana or Bhakti. While sitting with > > Nisargadatta Maharaj it was obvious no choice was required ,as he > was > > both, and they are one. John Cox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2003 Report Share Posted September 7, 2003 Nisargadatta , " jcoxco " <jcoxco> wrote: > I was enabled to be among those who visited Maharaj recently, 1979 to > locate in external time. Impressions? First a mixture of my fear > and awe affects impressions, as does his self-proclaimed > contradictions: Amazement at how he could oft times go right to the > heart of a visiters condition. In my case, before i spoke a word he > said, " You have no fear of death, is that correct? " To my agreeing > he said " Now all you need to know is how to live. Listen, relax, ask > questions as they arise. " In other cases he was a surgeon getting to > the actual 'problem'. Such gentleness, even on the ocassions when he > was quite combative. Humerous, unpredictable, giving in all > aspects. Receptive always. Spiritual, yet attuned and caring to the > day-to day situations of all those around him. Tolerant of those who > were rude and arrogant,but no tolerance at all for those who wanted > to take advantage of his followers, or those who came to enhance > their ego, or gain prestege. But the constant impression was of love > and wisdom. A lasting wonder was seeing his enjoyment when his > fellow Maharaj, his longtime followers, and Ramana Maharshi's > longtime deciples came to meetings. > Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> wrote: > > Did you actually meet Nisaegadatta? If so, please share your > > impressions. > > > > Nisargadatta , " jcoxco " <jcoxco> wrote: > > > It appears that Grace fortunately finds ways to dissolve > > ignorance. > > > Both in Colorado and Thailand I searched out the company of the > > > wise. (Actually since childhood.) While relaxing at a rustic > > resort > > > on a small island in the Gulf of Thailand a young man from > Holland > > > began a conversation on what I was reading; turned out his > interest > > > was also in Adaviata Vedanta. From that I learned not to worry > > about > > > finding a group, groups will appear as needed. Some postings on > > this > > > site reminded me that at one time I was quite worried about what > > > direction in which to go, Jnana or Bhakti. While sitting with > > > Nisargadatta Maharaj it was obvious no choice was required ,as he > > was > > > both, and they are one. John Cox What brings you to this part of the woods John Cox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <toombaru> wrote: > > What brings you to this part of the woods John Cox? the question can perhaps be rewinded to an earlier time period since john has been a long time (mostly silent) member. he contributed some of the photos at the nisargadatta.net site. hur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Limited computer skills mixed with Asian internet facilities and European laptop was a bit too much for me. And indeed in my local woods i tend toward lurking about. Reply to postings that both interest me, and that i can contribute something that may be of value. Enjoy having access to groups again though. May the trails help lead us back to our true home:john --- In Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hur@n...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <toombaru> wrote: > > > > What brings you to this part of the woods John Cox? > > the question can perhaps be rewinded to an earlier time period since > john has been a long time (mostly silent) member. he contributed > some of the photos at the nisargadatta.net site. > > hur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Nisargadatta , " jcoxco " <jcoxco> wrote: > Limited computer skills mixed with Asian internet facilities and > European laptop was a bit too much for me. And indeed in my local > woods i tend toward lurking about. Reply to postings that both > interest me, and that i can contribute something that may be of > value. Enjoy having access to groups again though. May the trails > help lead us back to our true home:john --- In > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hur@n...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <toombaru> > wrote: > > > > > > What brings you to this part of the woods John Cox? > > > > the question can perhaps be rewinded to an earlier time period > since > > john has been a long time (mostly silent) member. he contributed > > some of the photos at the nisargadatta.net site. > > > > hur I hope you stick around....................... Oh look!................there's the moon..:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Thank you John. Of course, I have more questions if you don't mind. By virtue of having seen my favorite sage, you have become 'a subject of interest in my investigation.' Let's hope we can upgrade your status to that of a suspect, maybe even an accomplice of that master of 'breaking and entering' who wrecked my humble house. How many times did you see maharaj? Were you familiar with his teachings before you met him? Did you learn anything from him personally that wasn't in his book? How did being in his presence affect you, or help you? Was his appearance that of a jnani? What in his appearance gave you that impression? Do you think you obtained a blessing by being in his presence and has that blessing increase or fade? Are you still searching? Don't be shy. We all have great respect for Maharaj, so nothing you say here would be used against you. Thanks for your cooperation. Detective Pete Nisargadatta , " jcoxco " <jcoxco> wrote: > I was enabled to be among those who visited Maharaj recently, 1979 to > locate in external time. Impressions? First a mixture of my fear > and awe affects impressions, as does his self-proclaimed > contradictions: Amazement at how he could oft times go right to the > heart of a visiters condition. In my case, before i spoke a word he > said, " You have no fear of death, is that correct? " To my agreeing > he said " Now all you need to know is how to live. Listen, relax, ask > questions as they arise. " In other cases he was a surgeon getting to > the actual 'problem'. Such gentleness, even on the ocassions when he > was quite combative. Humerous, unpredictable, giving in all > aspects. Receptive always. Spiritual, yet attuned and caring to the > day-to day situations of all those around him. Tolerant of those who > were rude and arrogant,but no tolerance at all for those who wanted > to take advantage of his followers, or those who came to enhance > their ego, or gain prestege. But the constant impression was of love > and wisdom. A lasting wonder was seeing his enjoyment when his > fellow Maharaj, his longtime followers, and Ramana Maharshi's > longtime deciples came to meetings. > Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> wrote: > > Did you actually meet Nisaegadatta? If so, please share your > > impressions. > > > > Nisargadatta , " jcoxco " <jcoxco> wrote: > > > It appears that Grace fortunately finds ways to dissolve > > ignorance. > > > Both in Colorado and Thailand I searched out the company of the > > > wise. (Actually since childhood.) While relaxing at a rustic > > resort > > > on a small island in the Gulf of Thailand a young man from > Holland > > > began a conversation on what I was reading; turned out his > interest > > > was also in Adaviata Vedanta. From that I learned not to worry > > about > > > finding a group, groups will appear as needed. Some postings on > > this > > > site reminded me that at one time I was quite worried about what > > > direction in which to go, Jnana or Bhakti. While sitting with > > > Nisargadatta Maharaj it was obvious no choice was required ,as he > > was > > > both, and they are one. John Cox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Hur and everyone, A friend of mine Lakyshan Schanzer has written about his visit to Nisargadatta in the late 1970s. It is a fun article to read. It is the second article under the title "Teachers". Lot of pictures of N smoking Bhidis and stuff and with other people including Lakyshan. / Harsha Hur Guler wrote: Nisargadatta , "toombaru" <toombaru> wrote: > > What brings you to this part of the woods John Cox? the question can perhaps be rewinded to an earlier time period since john has been a long time (mostly silent) member. he contributed some of the photos at the nisargadatta.net site. hur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Hi Harsha, Thanks for the nice pictures. I noticed that Lakyshan wrote he saw Maharaj and his wife in 1978, as i understand by Maharaj's bio his wife died when he was forty. What gave this fellow the impression this was his wife? Probably you don't know, but if he is your friend maybe you could ask in our behave. Saw your face in your webpage. Do you like your face? Is it your face really? Your eyes tell me you know better, so why do you post that face? I know, I'm such pain in the ass. Am I not? )) Pete Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote: > Hur and everyone, > > A friend of mine Lakyshan Schanzer has written about his visit to > Nisargadatta in the late 1970s. It is a fun article to read. > > It is the second article under the title " Teachers " . Lot of pictures of > N smoking Bhidis and stuff and with other people including Lakyshan. > > / > > Harsha > > > > > Hur Guler wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <toombaru> wrote: > > > > > > What brings you to this part of the woods John Cox? > > > > the question can perhaps be rewinded to an earlier time period since > > john has been a long time (mostly silent) member. he contributed > > some of the photos at the nisargadatta.net site. > > > > hur > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote: > Hur and everyone, > > A friend of mine Lakyshan Schanzer has written about his visit to > Nisargadatta in the late 1970s. It is a fun article to read. > > It is the second article under the title " Teachers " . Lot of pictures of > N smoking Bhidis and stuff and with other people including Lakyshan. > > / > > Harsha Yes, Harsha, it was a fun article to read, with great photos -- in a nicely put together magazine! Good stuff!! Thanks, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 - Hi Harsha, I admit i'm a bit dense, but that article didn't explain why you still consider your face important enough to post. Since I give you the benefit of the doubt it must not be due to vanity, it must be maybe because you think it will do somethimg for others, and if so what? As far as ordinary mind being Zen mind it's all horse manure. True nature is not at all what we commonly concider as mind, or self. It's a total stranger, an 'another' we'll never figure out, and yet is more us that us. Go figure out! Love for you buddy, Pete -- In Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote: > Hi Pete, > > Good question about that comment in the article about Maharaj talking to > his wife. I will ask Lakyshan when I talk with him next. His e-mail is > given at the end of the article and so you can write him as well. > > To get the answer to the other question you posed, > > You can read my article, " The Ordinary Mind Is the Buddha Mind " now on > the HS web site. > > / > > It is the third article in the " Buddhism " section. > > Thanks > Harsha > > > seesaw1us wrote: > > > Hi Harsha, > > Thanks for the nice pictures. I noticed that Lakyshan wrote he > > saw Maharaj and his wife in 1978, as i understand by Maharaj's bio > > his wife died when he was forty. What gave this fellow the impression > > this was his wife? > > Probably you don't know, but if he is your friend maybe you could ask > > in our behave. > > > > Saw your face in your webpage. Do you like your face? Is it your face > > really? Your eyes tell me you know better, so why do you post that > > face? I know, I'm such pain in the ass. Am I not? )) > > > > Pete > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote: > > > Hur and everyone, > > > > > > A friend of mine Lakyshan Schanzer has written about his visit to > > > Nisargadatta in the late 1970s. It is a fun article to read. > > > > > > It is the second article under the title " Teachers " . Lot of > > pictures of > > > N smoking Bhidis and stuff and with other people including Lakyshan. > > > > > > / > > > > > > Harsha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hur Guler wrote: > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <toombaru> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What brings you to this part of the woods John Cox? > > > > > > > > the question can perhaps be rewinded to an earlier time period > > since > > > > john has been a long time (mostly silent) member. he contributed > > > > some of the photos at the nisargadatta.net site. > > > > > > > > hur > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Pete wrote, in part: > As far as ordinary mind being Zen mind it's all horse manure. True > nature is not at all what we commonly concider as mind, or self. > It's a total stranger, an 'another' we'll never figure out, and yet > is more us that us. Go figure out! > > Love for you buddy, > > Pete Hi Pete -- You're saying something that's difficult to say, yet I agree, without knowing what you're talking about! Who we are isn't the known. Our " ordinary mind " is utterly unknown insofar as it is who we are. Insofar as it is who we think we are, it's not who we are at all. Go figure! -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Thanks Pete. Love, Harsha seesaw1us wrote: - Hi Harsha, I admit i'm a bit dense, but that article didn't explain why you still consider your face important enough to post. Since I give you the benefit of the doubt it must not be due to vanity, it must be maybe because you think it will do somethimg for others, and if so what? As far as ordinary mind being Zen mind it's all horse manure. True nature is not at all what we commonly concider as mind, or self. It's a total stranger, an 'another' we'll never figure out, and yet is more us that us. Go figure out! Love for you buddy, Pete -- In Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote: > Hi Pete, > > Good question about that comment in the article about Maharaj talking to > his wife. I will ask Lakyshan when I talk with him next. His e-mail is > given at the end of the article and so you can write him as well. > > To get the answer to the other question you posed, > > You can read my article, "The Ordinary Mind Is the Buddha Mind" now on > the HS web site. > > / > > It is the third article in the "Buddhism" section. > > Thanks > Harsha > > > seesaw1us wrote: > > > Hi Harsha, > > Thanks for the nice pictures. I noticed that Lakyshan wrote he > > saw Maharaj and his wife in 1978, as i understand by Maharaj's bio > > his wife died when he was forty. What gave this fellow the impression > > this was his wife? > > Probably you don't know, but if he is your friend maybe you could ask > > in our behave. > > > > Saw your face in your webpage. Do you like your face? Is it your face > > really? Your eyes tell me you know better, so why do you post that > > face? I know, I'm such pain in the ass. Am I not? )) > > > > Pete > > > > > > Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote: > > > Hur and everyone, > > > > > > A friend of mine Lakyshan Schanzer has written about his visit to > > > Nisargadatta in the late 1970s. It is a fun article to read. > > > > > > It is the second article under the title "Teachers". Lot of > > pictures of > > > N smoking Bhidis and stuff and with other people including Lakyshan. > > > > > > / > > > > > > Harsha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hur Guler wrote: > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , "toombaru" <toombaru> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What brings you to this part of the woods John Cox? > > > > > > > > the question can perhaps be rewinded to an earlier time period > > since > > > > john has been a long time (mostly silent) member. he contributed > > > > some of the photos at the nisargadatta.net site. > > > > > > > > hur > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Thanks Dan. Glad you liked it. Nice to hear your "voice" again. No more NDS and HS? Well, we can meet you here (right in our heart). Love, Harsha dan330033 wrote: Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote: > Hur and everyone, > > A friend of mine Lakyshan Schanzer has written about his visit to > Nisargadatta in the late 1970s. It is a fun article to read. > > It is the second article under the title "Teachers". Lot of pictures of > N smoking Bhidis and stuff and with other people including Lakyshan. > > / > > Harsha Yes, Harsha, it was a fun article to read, with great photos -- in a nicely put together magazine! Good stuff!! Thanks, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> wrote: > Pete wrote, in part: > > > As far as ordinary mind being Zen mind it's all horse manure. True > > nature is not at all what we commonly concider as mind, or self. > > It's a total stranger, an 'another' we'll never figure out, and yet > > is more us that us. Go figure out! > > > > Love for you buddy, > > > > Pete > > Hi Pete -- > > You're saying something that's difficult to say, > yet I agree, without knowing what you're talking about! P; ) Well, you're not alone, I don't know what I'm talking about either. > > Who we are isn't the known. > > Our " ordinary mind " is utterly unknown insofar > as it is who we are. > > Insofar as it is who we think we are, it's not > who we are at all. P:Yeah! Isn't that lucky break? > > Go figure! > > -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Perhaps it all depends on what certain words mean to a person. There is nothing to know or not know independently of that which is known now in this very minute, this second, with this breath. Love, Harsha dan330033 wrote: Pete wrote, in part: > As far as ordinary mind being Zen mind it's all horse manure. True > nature is not at all what we commonly concider as mind, or self. > It's a total stranger, an 'another' we'll never figure out, and yet > is more us that us. Go figure out! > > Love for you buddy, > > Pete Hi Pete -- You're saying something that's difficult to say, yet I agree, without knowing what you're talking about! Who we are isn't the known. Our "ordinary mind" is utterly unknown insofar as it is who we are. Insofar as it is who we think we are, it's not who we are at all. Go figure! -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote: > Thanks Dan. Glad you liked it. > > Nice to hear your " voice " again. No more NDS and HS? Hi Harsha -- " He that is born of the spirit is like the wind, which blows where it listeth. " Although I don't really know exactly what King James' translators meant by 'listeth,' probably something like " where it will " -- the word does seem to fit, somehow :-) > Well, we can meet you here (right in our heart). Where else? Listething Love, Dan > Love, > Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 > > Hi Pete -- > > > > You're saying something that's difficult to say, > > yet I agree, without knowing what you're talking about! > > P; ) Well, you're not alone, I don't know what I'm talking about > either. > > > > Who we are isn't the known. > > > > Our " ordinary mind " is utterly unknown insofar > > as it is who we are. > > > > Insofar as it is who we think we are, it's not > > who we are at all. > > P:Yeah! Isn't that lucky break? <<Laughing>> Sure -- otherwise we'd be something we can think about -- and where would we be then??? In my case, fat!! :-) > > Go figure! > > > > -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote: > Perhaps it all depends on what certain words mean to a person. > > There is nothing to know or not know independently of that which is > known now in this very minute, this second, with this breath. > > Love, > Harsha How long have you known that? Smiling love, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> wrote: > Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote: > > Perhaps it all depends on what certain words mean to a person. > > > > There is nothing to know or not know independently of that which is > > known now in this very minute, this second, with this breath. > > > > Love, > > Harsha > > How long have you known that? > > Smiling love, > Dan Hi Harsha and Dan, It's beyond knowing, even beyond that which knows. It doesn't knows or cares for knowledge. To describe it would be foolish because it has no equal. The closes I can get to say it would be: It's an intense very dry bliss who sees. Like a dry martini with no cherries or olives. No matter how many you drink you are never sure about the taste. I better quit here, I'm getting buzzed. ) Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Doubtfull that Maharaj needs help in destroying the illusions that we construct to enclose ourselves, i plead not guility! I was only able to make the one trip; that which came together to provide the opportunity and money only occured once before his body dropped away. " I am that " had found me about 6 months before my trip, so i was both prepaired and quite ignorant of the totality of his teachings. My true self absorbed that totality in his presence. Satchitananda appeared in his presence; rather than as a concept, the books were more of an assistance afterward. Even after 25 years of reading or re-reading a passage, awareness will come, ahh thats what he was saying! Blessings ocurred in the realization that this was what i had been looking for, the courage to follow-up, and especially witnessing Nisargadatta and the other seekers present. I had no expecation of what a guru would look like (beyond the couple of pictures i had seen). I do stray from the truth he manifested,but it always returns, especially when i find my mind is searching again. Still have my 'visa' so have yet to become a suspect. john --- In Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> wrote: > Thank you John. Of course, I have more questions if you don't mind. By > virtue of having seen my favorite sage, you have become 'a subject of > interest in my investigation.' Let's hope we can upgrade your status > to that of a suspect, maybe even an accomplice of that master > of 'breaking and entering' who wrecked my humble house. > > How many times did you see maharaj? > > Were you familiar with his teachings before you met him? > > Did you learn anything from him personally that wasn't in his book? > > How did being in his presence affect you, or help you? > > Was his appearance that of a jnani? > > What in his appearance gave you that impression? > > Do you think you obtained a blessing by being in his presence and > has that blessing increase or fade? > > Are you still searching? > > Don't be shy. We all have great respect for Maharaj, so nothing > you say here would be used against you. > > Thanks for your cooperation. > > Detective Pete > > > Nisargadatta , " jcoxco " <jcoxco> wrote: > > I was enabled to be among those who visited Maharaj recently, 1979 > to > > locate in external time. Impressions? First a mixture of my fear > > and awe affects impressions, as does his self-proclaimed > > contradictions: Amazement at how he could oft times go right to > the > > heart of a visiters condition. In my case, before i spoke a word > he > > said, " You have no fear of death, is that correct? " To my agreeing > > he said " Now all you need to know is how to live. Listen, relax, > ask > > questions as they arise. " In other cases he was a surgeon getting > to > > the actual 'problem'. Such gentleness, even on the ocassions when > he > > was quite combative. Humerous, unpredictable, giving in all > > aspects. Receptive always. Spiritual, yet attuned and caring to > the > > day-to day situations of all those around him. Tolerant of those > who > > were rude and arrogant,but no tolerance at all for those who wanted > > to take advantage of his followers, or those who came to enhance > > their ego, or gain prestege. But the constant impression was of > love > > and wisdom. A lasting wonder was seeing his enjoyment when his > > fellow Maharaj, his longtime followers, and Ramana Maharshi's > > longtime deciples came to meetings. > > Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> wrote: > > > Did you actually meet Nisaegadatta? If so, please share your > > > impressions. > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " jcoxco " <jcoxco> wrote: > > > > It appears that Grace fortunately finds ways to dissolve > > > ignorance. > > > > Both in Colorado and Thailand I searched out the company of the > > > > wise. (Actually since childhood.) While relaxing at a rustic > > > resort > > > > on a small island in the Gulf of Thailand a young man from > > Holland > > > > began a conversation on what I was reading; turned out his > > interest > > > > was also in Adaviata Vedanta. From that I learned not to worry > > > about > > > > finding a group, groups will appear as needed. Some postings > on > > > this > > > > site reminded me that at one time I was quite worried about > what > > > > direction in which to go, Jnana or Bhakti. While sitting with > > > > Nisargadatta Maharaj it was obvious no choice was required ,as > he > > > was > > > > both, and they are one. John Cox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 - Thanks John. No charges will be filed. Go in peace. Pete -- In Nisargadatta , " jcoxco " <jcoxco> wrote: > Doubtfull that Maharaj needs help in destroying the illusions that we > construct to enclose ourselves, i plead not guility! I was only > able to make the one trip; that which came together to provide the > opportunity and money only occured once before his body dropped > away. " I am that " had found me about 6 months before my trip, so i > was both prepaired and quite ignorant of the totality of his > teachings. My true self absorbed that totality in his presence. > Satchitananda appeared in his presence; rather than as a concept, the > books were more of an assistance afterward. Even after 25 years of > reading or re-reading a passage, awareness will come, ahh thats what > he was saying! Blessings ocurred in the realization that this was > what i had been looking for, the courage to follow-up, and especially > witnessing Nisargadatta and the other seekers present. I had no > expecation of what a guru would look like (beyond the couple of > pictures i had seen). I do stray from the truth he manifested,but it > always returns, especially when i find my mind is searching again. > Still have my 'visa' so have yet to become a suspect. john --- In > Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> wrote: > > Thank you John. Of course, I have more questions if you don't mind. > By > > virtue of having seen my favorite sage, you have become 'a subject > of > > interest in my investigation.' Let's hope we can upgrade your > status > > to that of a suspect, maybe even an accomplice of that master > > of 'breaking and entering' who wrecked my humble house. > > > > How many times did you see maharaj? > > > > Were you familiar with his teachings before you met him? > > > > Did you learn anything from him personally that wasn't in his book? > > > > How did being in his presence affect you, or help you? > > > > Was his appearance that of a jnani? > > > > What in his appearance gave you that impression? > > > > Do you think you obtained a blessing by being in his presence and > > has that blessing increase or fade? > > > > Are you still searching? > > > > Don't be shy. We all have great respect for Maharaj, so nothing > > you say here would be used against you. > > > > Thanks for your cooperation. > > > > Detective Pete > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " jcoxco " <jcoxco> wrote: > > > I was enabled to be among those who visited Maharaj recently, > 1979 > > to > > > locate in external time. Impressions? First a mixture of my > fear > > > and awe affects impressions, as does his self-proclaimed > > > contradictions: Amazement at how he could oft times go right to > > the > > > heart of a visiters condition. In my case, before i spoke a word > > he > > > said, " You have no fear of death, is that correct? " To my > agreeing > > > he said " Now all you need to know is how to live. Listen, relax, > > ask > > > questions as they arise. " In other cases he was a surgeon > getting > > to > > > the actual 'problem'. Such gentleness, even on the ocassions > when > > he > > > was quite combative. Humerous, unpredictable, giving in all > > > aspects. Receptive always. Spiritual, yet attuned and caring to > > the > > > day-to day situations of all those around him. Tolerant of those > > who > > > were rude and arrogant,but no tolerance at all for those who > wanted > > > to take advantage of his followers, or those who came to enhance > > > their ego, or gain prestege. But the constant impression was of > > love > > > and wisdom. A lasting wonder was seeing his enjoyment when his > > > fellow Maharaj, his longtime followers, and Ramana Maharshi's > > > longtime deciples came to meetings. > > > Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> wrote: > > > > Did you actually meet Nisaegadatta? If so, please share your > > > > impressions. > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " jcoxco " <jcoxco> > wrote: > > > > > It appears that Grace fortunately finds ways to dissolve > > > > ignorance. > > > > > Both in Colorado and Thailand I searched out the company of > the > > > > > wise. (Actually since childhood.) While relaxing at a rustic > > > > resort > > > > > on a small island in the Gulf of Thailand a young man from > > > Holland > > > > > began a conversation on what I was reading; turned out his > > > interest > > > > > was also in Adaviata Vedanta. From that I learned not to > worry > > > > about > > > > > finding a group, groups will appear as needed. Some postings > > on > > > > this > > > > > site reminded me that at one time I was quite worried about > > what > > > > > direction in which to go, Jnana or Bhakti. While sitting > with > > > > > Nisargadatta Maharaj it was obvious no choice was > required ,as > > he > > > > was > > > > > both, and they are one. John Cox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 Nisargadatta , Harsha wrote: > Hur and everyone, > > A friend of mine Lakyshan Schanzer has written about his visit to > Nisargadatta in the late 1970s. It is a fun article to read. > > It is the second article under the title " Teachers " . Lot of pictures of > N smoking Bhidis and stuff and with other people including Lakyshan. > > / > > Harsha > thank you harsha and everyone. i'll repost the destination url of this rare article and the photos for the benefit of those who may have missed it: /pages/mag3lakshyan.html hur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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