The Universe as an understanding that has passed ...

[Guest guest]

snip:

 

> Most folks 'see' this and then conclude something like: " I

must

> relax my concentration and understand meditation " - in a sense this

> is true, yet the understanding that one must meditate is again

> Concentration.

>

>

> So - what to do?

>

>

>

> The backgroung of all Doing is Being.

>

>

>

>

> Being is already Being Done.

>

>

>

> You cannot understanding it because and attempt by 'you' is

> Concentration - a localized static lens - AND - Being is living

> changing, unfolding.

>

>

>

> Seeing Itself is.

>

>

>

> Love and Gratitude,

> James

>

 

Hi James --

 

Nice hearing from you!

 

In a very clear way, no one can do other than as they are done,

no one can understand other than as they are understood.

 

What is known has already taken place.

 

It is impossible to " do something about it " and

it (what is known, experienced)

can't lead to " getting from there to here " ...

 

Love,

Dan

[Guest guest]

Hey Dan,

 

 

Yep!

 

The Dancer is the Dance

The Dance is the Dancer

 

It is the two-step of Being

 

Being 'Being'

 

 

Love and Gratitude,

James

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033>

wrote:

> snip:

>

> > Most folks 'see' this and then conclude something like: " I

> must

> > relax my concentration and understand meditation " - in a sense

this

> > is true, yet the understanding that one must meditate is again

> > Concentration.

> >

> >

> > So - what to do?

> >

> >

> >

> > The backgroung of all Doing is Being.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Being is already Being Done.

> >

> >

> >

> > You cannot understanding it because and attempt by 'you' is

> > Concentration - a localized static lens - AND - Being is living

> > changing, unfolding.

> >

> >

> >

> > Seeing Itself is.

> >

> >

> >

> > Love and Gratitude,

> > James

> >

>

> Hi James --

>

> Nice hearing from you!

>

> In a very clear way, no one can do other than as they are done,

> no one can understand other than as they are understood.

>

> What is known has already taken place.

>

> It is impossible to " do something about it " and

> it (what is known, experienced)

> can't lead to " getting from there to here " ...

>

> Love,

> Dan

[Guest guest]

Hello again Dan,

 

 

Continued from earlier re: 'What to do?'

 

~~~

 

Seeing Itself is.

 

Action comes from Seeing.

Intelligent action comes from Seeing clearly.

 

Seeing Itself is.

 

Seeing Itself 'Seeing Itself' acts - its action is always

appropriate to the moment, it leaves nothing lacking and no residue.

 

 

Love and Gratitude,

James

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033>

wrote:

> snip:

>

> > Most folks 'see' this and then conclude something like: " I

> must

> > relax my concentration and understand meditation " - in a sense

this

> > is true, yet the understanding that one must meditate is again

> > Concentration.

> >

> >

> > So - what to do?

> >

> >

> >

> > The backgroung of all Doing is Being.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Being is already Being Done.

> >

> >

> >

> > You cannot understanding it because and attempt by 'you' is

> > Concentration - a localized static lens - AND - Being is living

> > changing, unfolding.

> >

> >

> >

> > Seeing Itself is.

> >

> >

> >

> > Love and Gratitude,

> > James

> >

>

> Hi James --

>

> Nice hearing from you!

>

> In a very clear way, no one can do other than as they are done,

> no one can understand other than as they are understood.

>

> What is known has already taken place.

>

> It is impossible to " do something about it " and

> it (what is known, experienced)

> can't lead to " getting from there to here " ...

>

> Love,

> Dan

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " james " <nisarga@c...> wrote:

>

>

> Hey Dan,

>

>

> Yep!

>

> The Dancer is the Dance

> The Dance is the Dancer

>

> It is the two-step of Being

>

> Being 'Being'

>

>

> Love and Gratitude,

> James

 

Hi James --

 

And ..

 

There is no dancer to be a dance,

 

Hence no dance to embody the dancer.

 

This is the no-step, in which

being and nonbeing have dissolved

without ever having occurred.

 

The flame flickers on and off,

pictures form and speak,

yet nothing has taken place.

 

Love,

Dan

[Guest guest]

> Hello again Dan,

 

Hi again James,

 

> Continued from earlier re: 'What to do?'

>

> ~~~

 

Yes, continuing without continuity --

the timeless dance that is not,

as no duration is ...

 

> Seeing Itself is.

 

Seeing anything is to know.

 

To know is to conceptualize.

 

Conceptualization, even as

" pure being and experience "

is empty of location.

Hence, any object is the subject,

seemingly located and given quality.

 

> Action comes from Seeing.

> Intelligent action comes from Seeing clearly.

 

Yes.

 

And intelligent nonaction clearly comes from nothing-to-see :-)

 

> Seeing Itself is.

 

Seeing No-thing of No-self is.

 

> Seeing Itself 'Seeing Itself' acts - its action is always

> appropriate to the moment, it leaves nothing lacking and no residue.

 

True, there can be no residue, where no thing has touched.

 

Where no thing has been formed, any form is always formless.

 

Form is formless, the formless is form.

 

Any form experienced, is dissolved this moment of no-residue,

no-center.

 

Which is infinitely open, endless possibility, manifesting

only when appearance is " granted " -- without ever taking place.

 

Love all ways,

Dan

[Guest guest]

Thanks Dan,

 

Yes.

 

It is the Cosmic two-step

that never was and ever is.

 

 

Nothing IS real.

 

 

" The one who sees inaction in action, and, action in inaction is a

wise person. Such a person is a yogi and has accomlished everything "

 

Bhagavad Gita 4.18

 

~~~

 

The Cosmic two-step is like taking a number and halving or doubling

it and then halving/doubling the result to form an infinite

progression/regression that is definite as the present and infinite

in its potential.

 

 

The substance of the process is the process itself

- orderly movement/dance.

 

Nothing IS real. Calling it a dance does not make it a dance yet

that is the appropriate label when appearance is " granted " .

 

 

Love and Gratitude,

James

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033>

wrote:

> > Hello again Dan,

>

> Hi again James,

>

> > Continued from earlier re: 'What to do?'

> >

> > ~~~

>

> Yes, continuing without continuity --

> the timeless dance that is not,

> as no duration is ...

>

> > Seeing Itself is.

>

> Seeing anything is to know.

>

> To know is to conceptualize.

>

> Conceptualization, even as

> " pure being and experience "

> is empty of location.

> Hence, any object is the subject,

> seemingly located and given quality.

>

> > Action comes from Seeing.

> > Intelligent action comes from Seeing clearly.

>

> Yes.

>

> And intelligent nonaction clearly comes from nothing-to-see :-)

>

> > Seeing Itself is.

>

> Seeing No-thing of No-self is.

>

> > Seeing Itself 'Seeing Itself' acts - its action is always

> > appropriate to the moment, it leaves nothing lacking and no

residue.

>

> True, there can be no residue, where no thing has touched.

>

> Where no thing has been formed, any form is always formless.

>

> Form is formless, the formless is form.

>

> Any form experienced, is dissolved this moment of no-residue,

> no-center.

>

> Which is infinitely open, endless possibility, manifesting

> only when appearance is " granted " -- without ever taking place.

>

> Love all ways,

> Dan

[Guest guest]

Hi James --

 

Good talkin' to ya!

 

> Yes.

>

> It is the Cosmic two-step

> that never was and ever is.

 

Or that only is when it was,

and never was.

 

> Nothing IS real.

 

If *is* subsumes all word possibilities,

then, as *is* alone is, nothing is,

and there is no is -- and yet

there is nothing missing at all.

 

> " The one who sees inaction in action, and, action in inaction is a

> wise person. Such a person is a yogi and has accomlished

everything "

> Bhagavad Gita 4.18

 

Nice quote! Fits right in!

 

> ~~~

>

> The Cosmic two-step is like taking a number and halving or doubling

> it and then halving/doubling the result to form an infinite

> progression/regression that is definite as the present and infinite

> in its potential.

 

O.K.

 

In other words, it's conceptual.

 

It's giving a place and time to

the unlocated timeless, as

" my experience. "

 

It is setting a point where there

is no locale, and from that

point, generating infinite locales,

as " places where things happen. "

 

With one point set, infinite other points

can be imagined (imaged) and all kinds

of relationships of all kinds of

figures and movements can be " entertained. "

 

That one point taken as " me " and also as

" the center of every 'thing' that I know. "

 

> The substance of the process is the process itself

> - orderly movement/dance.

 

If it is disorderly, then that is its order.

 

If it is orderly, then that includes its disorder.

 

It moves only in relation.

 

Without having set up a point of view,

no movement can be ascertained.

 

" The universe moves by my window. " -- Dan

 

> Nothing IS real. Calling it a dance does not make it a dance yet

> that is the appropriate label when appearance is " granted " .

 

An appropriate label must be assessed by

an appropriate labeller -- whoever that is :-)

 

When all things are subsumed as no-thing,

yet retain their individuality in relation,

the dance continues, without ever moving ...

 

Love,

Dan

[Guest guest]

Hey Dan,

 

 

S'wirll talkin' to ya' too.

 

- the Cosmic two-step is this email dance.

 

 

 

Love and Gratitude,

James

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033>

wrote:

> Hi James --

>

> Good talkin' to ya!

>

> > Yes.

> >

> > It is the Cosmic two-step

> > that never was and ever is.

>

> Or that only is when it was,

> and never was.

>

> > Nothing IS real.

>

> If *is* subsumes all word possibilities,

> then, as *is* alone is, nothing is,

> and there is no is -- and yet

> there is nothing missing at all.

>

> > " The one who sees inaction in action, and, action in inaction is

a

> > wise person. Such a person is a yogi and has accomlished

> everything "

> > Bhagavad Gita 4.18

>

> Nice quote! Fits right in!

>

> > ~~~

> >

> > The Cosmic two-step is like taking a number and halving or

doubling

> > it and then halving/doubling the result to form an infinite

> > progression/regression that is definite as the present and

infinite

> > in its potential.

>

> O.K.

>

> In other words, it's conceptual.

>

> It's giving a place and time to

> the unlocated timeless, as

> " my experience. "

>

> It is setting a point where there

> is no locale, and from that

> point, generating infinite locales,

> as " places where things happen. "

>

> With one point set, infinite other points

> can be imagined (imaged) and all kinds

> of relationships of all kinds of

> figures and movements can be " entertained. "

>

> That one point taken as " me " and also as

> " the center of every 'thing' that I know. "

>

> > The substance of the process is the process itself

> > - orderly movement/dance.

>

> If it is disorderly, then that is its order.

>

> If it is orderly, then that includes its disorder.

>

> It moves only in relation.

>

> Without having set up a point of view,

> no movement can be ascertained.

>

> " The universe moves by my window. " -- Dan

>

> > Nothing IS real. Calling it a dance does not make it a dance yet

> > that is the appropriate label when appearance is " granted " .

>

> An appropriate label must be assessed by

> an appropriate labeller -- whoever that is :-)

>

> When all things are subsumed as no-thing,

> yet retain their individuality in relation,

> the dance continues, without ever moving ...

>

> Love,

> Dan

[Guest guest]

Hey Dan,

 

 

The other point that I wish to acknowledge is:

 

Yes - it is conceptual (as you stated below).

 

I feel that it can also be stated that 'All is Mind' as per

Hermetic Laws - this is yet another variation of the dance.

 

 

Love and Gratitude,

James

 

 

 

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033>

wrote:

> Hi James --

>

> Good talkin' to ya!

>

> > Yes.

> >

> > It is the Cosmic two-step

> > that never was and ever is.

>

> Or that only is when it was,

> and never was.

>

> > Nothing IS real.

>

> If *is* subsumes all word possibilities,

> then, as *is* alone is, nothing is,

> and there is no is -- and yet

> there is nothing missing at all.

>

> > " The one who sees inaction in action, and, action in inaction is

a

> > wise person. Such a person is a yogi and has accomlished

> everything "

> > Bhagavad Gita 4.18

>

> Nice quote! Fits right in!

>

> > ~~~

> >

> > The Cosmic two-step is like taking a number and halving or

doubling

> > it and then halving/doubling the result to form an infinite

> > progression/regression that is definite as the present and

infinite

> > in its potential.

>

> O.K.

>

> In other words, it's conceptual.

>

> It's giving a place and time to

> the unlocated timeless, as

> " my experience. "

>

> It is setting a point where there

> is no locale, and from that

> point, generating infinite locales,

> as " places where things happen. "

>

> With one point set, infinite other points

> can be imagined (imaged) and all kinds

> of relationships of all kinds of

> figures and movements can be " entertained. "

>

> That one point taken as " me " and also as

> " the center of every 'thing' that I know. "

>

> > The substance of the process is the process itself

> > - orderly movement/dance.

>

> If it is disorderly, then that is its order.

>

> If it is orderly, then that includes its disorder.

>

> It moves only in relation.

>

> Without having set up a point of view,

> no movement can be ascertained.

>

> " The universe moves by my window. " -- Dan

>

> > Nothing IS real. Calling it a dance does not make it a dance yet

> > that is the appropriate label when appearance is " granted " .

>

> An appropriate label must be assessed by

> an appropriate labeller -- whoever that is :-)

>

> When all things are subsumed as no-thing,

> yet retain their individuality in relation,

> the dance continues, without ever moving ...

>

> Love,

> Dan

[Guest guest]

Hi James --

 

> S'wirll talkin' to ya' too.

>

> - the Cosmic two-step is this email dance.

 

I thought is was just an exploding dandelion.

 

Silly me!

 

> Love and Gratitude,

> James

 

Love and blowing seeds everywhere,

Dan

[Guest guest]

Hi James --

 

> The other point that I wish to acknowledge is:

>

> Yes - it is conceptual (as you stated below).

>

> I feel that it can also be stated that 'All is Mind' as per

> Hermetic Laws - this is yet another variation of the dance.

 

Yes, that is one way to open to/as " this " :

what is outside is the inside,

with no real distance,

except that distance which (imagined, conceptual) allows

the perception (cognized).

 

> Love and Gratitude,

> James

 

Nonlocalized love,

Dan