Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 Just for the conversation's sake... Don't take it seriously Suppressing the mind leads to torture. Once an idea appears in the mind, I think it's wiser to observe it, without any judgement, whatever the content. Observe it from start to finish. Until the mind looses its interest. I don't use marijuana anymore, but I have gone through (ok witnessed ) many experiences in the past. One of them was about being cut to pieces by sharp razors. Oh my! Ok, imagine this dialogue: A: Hey, I have an idea! B: What is it? A: Oh, wait... I've changed my mind. I won't tell it. B: Why? What was the idea? A: Nope, won't tell it. I'm ashamed of it. It was a bad idea. B: Come on! A: WILL NOT! etc... Just get the idea. The mind is inclined to find about what is trying to be hidden. When any experience starts, and then is being suppressed, the mind wishes to finish the scenario. I'm not good at any terminology. But it's as if, a karma has been created, and if you have something to say, just say it. Or it will not leave you if you keep ignoring it. In my sharp razors (blades) case, I wondered (when I was high) what was it like cutting your arms or legs? (I had read a book where Saddhu's offered their body as a gift to the fire. I thought that was horrible.) Or what must Jesus Christ have felt (physically) when he was being crucified? Unconsciously I started to identify with it. Immediately I tried to stop it. I was high (let's say altered states of consciousness), and images, sensations were very vivid. I indeed thought it could happen physically right then! I didn't want to loose my arms or legs because of a simple thought! Just a thought! LOL! For a few days I ignored the thought and it seemed OK. But the next time I was high it came again, stronger... At that point, a very warm inner voice said: " We'll have to cut your arms off. Please relax, and stop worrying. Yes, just like that... And please the legs too! " For some reason, I knew that I should stop resisting and being childish. I was afraid, but trusted the warm voice (not a spoken, audible voice, you could call it anything you want. Sadguru maybe.) Almost every possible cutting scenario took place. Let's say, I lived the ones I took to be most frightening. And I stopped being involved in it emotionally. It wasn't hurting. I was feeling it being cut, but I even didn't tense my muscles. It just happened as I watched silently. Then the experience ceased. It wasn't interesting to me anymore. I had finished my investigation, so to speak. Then, I felt a gentle shower at the top of my head. As if something, the size of an umbrella opened there. I felt so light. I laughed from the heart. A great burden leaved me. Peace came. Of course, this whole bunch of experience is useless. It is what it is. I won't make a statement out of it. But I realized, this experience, even if I thought it was horrible, was no more horrible than any other experience, say, eating an ice-cream. I found the experience " interesting " . Simply because, I never lived a similar thing before. To judge it as good or bad is another thing. But it was interesting. Who knows? Maybe if I kept resisting it, it would eventually manifest itself, until there is no place to hide, no choice left other than accepting it, maybe as a car accident or something? Tansel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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