Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 The world as a holomovement. The tangible world is movement,... not a collection of moving objects, but movement itself. There are no objects 'in movements'. It is the movement which constitutes the objects, some of which are architectured to sense "other" objects, through the attribute of the property, known as sentience. In essence there is nothing but movement, ...........as phenomenality. A nuance of which, is this very stating. ------------ Wholeness is flowing movement. With the hologram, the movement of interference patterns of coherent light enfolds a subtle range of structures and orders. In a similar, but unthinkably vaster, way, the whole movement or "holomovement" of the universe carries the implicate order and allows us to see and experience our four-dimensional space-time world. - An expressing through the objects named Briggs and Peat, in Looking Glass Universe Movement arises from flashes of energy. This movement is a continued and infinitely rapid succession of flashes of energy. All objects perceptible to our senses, all phenomena of whatever kind and whatever aspect they assume, are constituted by a rapid succession of instantaneous events. ------ Mind, I believe, exists as fleeting energy in parallel universes. The universe we perceive consists of the overlap of these fleeting flashes of energy. The patterns create mind as surely as they create matter. Both the existence of matter and the perception of it are the same thing. - An expressing through the object named Fred Allen Wolf in Parallel Universes A single result arises from many causes. Nothing is produced by one single cause; The combination of practically infinite number of causes is necessary to bring about a result. The seed without the co-operation of earth, dampness, light, etc. will never become a tree. The most sublime poetry, the most profound prose, the highest acts of creativity, no matter what is the medium of expression,........ needs that precise combination of the neuro-transmitting chemicals like serotonin-dopamine-oxycyticin (among others), in the synaptic gaps in the neural network of the brain. It is this prevailing chemical profile of the millions of synapses in the brain, which is now seen, in turn to affect the HPA axis, (Hypothalamus-Pituitary-Adrenal),................... in precisely the specific manner, .....................such that, the exact instructions are carried out by the physiological system, such that those precise words, actions, behaviour erupt, as external actualizations. In the moment. Moment to moment to moment. The dynamically changing chemical profile of a responding organism, is both genetic in origin as well as the result of the impacting influences and inputs it receives while the organism is "alive". Genetic origin of any organism whether sentient or otherwise, is the genetic legacy of phenomenality itself. And hence, there are only universal causes and universal effects. It is only the Whole which acts, each act as nuances of the movement of Totality. Whether the nuance is an act of scratching your nose, or a seeking of Moksha or a whirling in a state of fana. Whether it is walking in words in a satsangh, or the frenzy of a transnational corporate merger. Whether it is foraging for food on the streets, or the exploding super nova, in a brilliance of thousand suns. --------- The universe is multidimensional, creative, and indeterminate, constantly unfolding new 'forms' or subtotalities which are expressions of the whole. The galaxy, the city, the corporation, even the very cells of a human's body are in a ceaseless energy exchange like water flowing through a vortex. - An expressing through the objects named Briggs and Peat, Looking Glass Universe The microcosm and macrocosm are intimately connected. "The cycle of Interdependent Origins thus takes place in everything, everywhere, in the infinitely small as in the infinitely great. Its development does not take place progressively in time; the twelve causes...are always present, co-existent and interdependent, their activity is interconnected, and they only exist on with the other. Expressed as The Secret Oral Teachings in Tibetan Buddhist Sects The development of structures in what is called microevolution mirrors the development of structures in macroevolution and vice versa. Microstructures and macrostructures evolve together as a whole. - An expressing through the object named Erich Jantsch, Creative Evolution The World as Mental Projection "Mind" is a description not a thing. The realization that 'mind' is only a word indicating a series of mental phenomena. --------------- For the operation of the nervous system, there is no inside or outside, but only maintenance of correlations that continuously change. Self-consciousness, awareness, mind - these are phenomena that take place in language. "'Mind' is not an entity but can be ascribed to a system exhibiting regular behavior. - Expressings through the object named Humberto Maturana, The Tree of Knowledge The apparant world is a creation of the observer. It is this world which we watch like a play which unfolds outside of ourselves while, in fact, there is nothing there but a canvas bearing many colored patterns, which we have woven and printed in ourselves according to the indications of our erroneous knowledge. - Expressed as The Secret Oral Teachings in Tibetan Buddhist Sects The apparent world, the one which is perceived, with its figures, its brightness, its colors, is a psychical product, a creation of the observer. The figures seen on the vault of heaven are neither the celestial bodies, nor the true clouds or the falling stars, but are only effigies which the observer's psyche has created and localized how and where it can. - An expressing through the object named Vasco Ronchi, Optics, The Science of Vision All that we peceive are our own projections. The greatest saint, even if he has sacrificed a thousand times all that he held most dear, even his life itself, for love of others, for that of a God or for a noble ideal, remains a prisoner of samsara if he has not understood that all that is a childish game, empty of reality, a useless phantasmagoria of shadows which his own mind projects on the infinite screen of the Void Expressed as The Secret Oral Teachings in Tibetan Buddhist Sects ....All sensation will be the reconstruction of objects in space and time from apparent or virtual images of those objects recorded in the cortex. All that we sense as 'out there' is projected from our 'witness' of the recorded virtual images. - An expressing through the object named Fred Alan Wolf, Parallel Universes Memories are painted over our screen of perception. This root originally free from any admixture, origin of the illusory world in which we live is a fleeting contact with some unknowable instant of Reality, some indefinable force which the vasanas [memories] obscure at once, superimposing on it the screen on which the images which we see, are painted. - Expressed as The Secret Oral Teachings in Tibetan Buddhist Sects Consciousness unfolds like a computer displaying its contents on a screen. A considerable part of that display comes from the past and is confused with the self." - Briggs and Peat, Looking Glass Universe Our Illusory Self Thought encloses itself in its own world. "What then is this activity from which one ought to abstain? It is the disordered activity of the mind which, unceasingly, devotes itself to the work of a builder erecting ideas, creating an imaginary world in which it shuts itself like a chrysalis in its cocoon." - Expressed as The Secret Oral Teachings in Tibetan Buddhist Sects Thought forms a world of its own in which it is everything. It reifies itself and imagines there's nothing else but what it...thinks about." - An expressing through the object named David Bohm, in RE-VISION 1 An deeply held ideal is a thought. We are the many fragments of others. The Secret Teachings lead the pupil further. They teach him to look, with the same serene indifference at the incessant working of his mind and the physical activity displayed by the body. He ought to succeed in understanding, in noting that nothing of all that is from him, is him. He, physically and mentally, is the multitude of others. "This 'multitude of others' includes the material elements - the ground, one might say - which he owes to his heredity, to his atavism, then those which he has ingested, which he has inhaled from before his birth, by the help of which his body was formed, and which, assimilated by him, have become with the complex forces inherent in them, constituent parts of his being. "On the mental plane, this 'multitude of others' includes many beings who are his contemporaries: people he consorts with, with whom he chats, whose actions he watches. Thus a continual inhibition is at work while the individual absorbs a part of the various energies given off by those with whom he is in contact, and these incongruous energies, installing themselves in that which he considers his 'I', form there a swarming throng. - Expressed as The Secret Oral Teachings in Tibetan Buddhist Sects It is amazing that after some of the most complex studies and through the use of highly complicated scanning instruments allowing "live" observations of the neural network, ..................maybe in the last three decades, neuro-science and neuro-biologists, have arrived at exactly the same validations on the mechanics of human responses/ behaviour, as was pointed, some couple of thousands of years back,.. in bat-invested caves in the Himalayas. We do not exist as a soul or individual self. "The answer to those that imagine that Buddhist salvation consists in the annihilation of the 'ego', at the death of the 'person', is that, as Buddhism denies the existence of an 'ego' or a soul, whatever be the name given to it, there cannot be any question of the annihilation of that which is held to be non-existent. In reality there is annihilation but it is that of false views, of ignorance, and more exactly of the belief in the existence of an 'ego' which is independent, homogeneous and permanent, a belief which deforms our understanding of the world in deforming our mental vision." - Expressed as The Secret Oral Teachings in Tibetan Buddhist Sects Beyond Thought The void is an absence of anything we can conceive of. "Void is understood as a state in which the elements do not produce any combination, give rise to no phenomenon, a state in which only forces, latent and non-manifest, exist. Being the sphere of complete absence of manifestation, the Void is inconceivable." - Expressed as The Secret Oral Teachings in Tibetan Buddhist Sects The Void is neither conceivable, nor inconceivable. Insight is a process that bypasses thought. To go beyond virtue and vice, opinions and beliefs is to go beyond the mental constructions which are built up by the mind, unceasingly, and to recognize, by transcendent insight, that they are void of reality. It is also to recognize, by transcendent insight, that which has been imagined as practicing virtue, surrendering to vice, as holding opinions and elaborating theories, as traveling towards a goal and reaching the goal, is nothing but an inconsistent phantom, devoid of reality. - Expressed as The Secret Oral Teachings in Tibetan Buddhist Sects "Insight is an intelligence beyond any of the energies that could be defined in thought. Insight directly transforms matter; it sort of by-passes thought as of little consequence." - An expressing through the object named David Bohm, in RE-VISION 1 Consciousness continually creates the universe. According to the Secret Teachings the origin of things is not situated in any place or moment of past time; it is produced now, at each instant, in our minds. At every moment the subjective image which is the world, arises in our mind only to sink back and dissolve in it the moment after, like the 'waves which arise from the sea and fall back into it. - Expressed as The Secret Oral Teachings in Tibetan Buddhist Sects "Not in the dim past but continuously by conscious mind is the miracle of creation wrought." - An expressing through the object named Arthur Eddington The Great Liberation "...The well-informed dreamer may cease taking pleasure in dreaming. He may stop imitating those dreamers who, enjoying the phantasmagoria which they watch and in which they play a part, persist in wishing to remain asleep. In truth, why do the dreamers fear awakening, why do they imagine in advance other dreams of hells and heavens which await them after death? It is because they fear that with the disappearance of the 'images seen in dreams', the illusory 'Ego' which is an integral part of them will disappear. They have not yet perceived that the real face of this chimerical 'Ego' is the face of Death. As long as the idea of this impermanent Ego lasts, this simple mass of elements which various causes have brought together and which other causes will separate, death also subsists. The Teaching alludes to the disappearance of this phantom from the field of our mental activity when it refers to whom 'death does not see', that is, he for whom death does not exist. - Expressed as The Secret Oral Teachings in Tibetan Buddhist Sects There are moments when one feels free from one's own identification with human limitations and inadequacies. At such moments one imagines that one stands on some spot of a small planet, gazing in amazement at the cold yet profoundly moving beauty of the eternal, the unfathomable; life and death flow into one, and there is neither evolution nor destiny; only Being. - An expressing through the object named Albert Einstein Subtle, sparkling, dazzling, glorious, and radiantly awesome, in appearance like a mirage moving across a landscape in spring-time in one continuous stream of vibrations... 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Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 Dear Sandeep, thanks for this great compilation of quotes. There are many things to comment; I will try it piece by piece without thinking to much The world as a holomovement. The tangible world is movement,... not a collection of moving objects, but movement itself. There are no objects 'in movements'. It is the movement which constitutes the objects, some of which are architectured to sense "other" objects, through the attribute of the property, known as sentience. In essence there is nothing but movement, ...........as phenomenality. A nuance of which, is this very stating. ------------ Wholeness is flowing movement. With the hologram, the movement of interference patterns of coherent light enfolds a subtle range of structures and orders. In a similar, but unthinkably vaster, way, the whole movement or "holomovement" of the universe carries the implicate order and allows us to see and experience our four-dimensional space-time world. - An expressing through the objects named Briggs and Peat, in Looking Glass Universe sk: The underlying idea is, in my opinion, here again "his wholiness". This concept is useful on a spiritual level. An important phase on the path towards a deeper understandment of phenomenality, perhaps. Also the notion of movement vs non-movement. The relevance of these questions are more than scientific, psychological. To describe phenomenality as "movement itself" sounds plausible. Why not? The opposite would work too, if we say phenomenality is in essence complete non-movement and manifests itself as movement due to the way we are able to apprehend it. Consciousness impregnates phenomenality with movement. Movement itself comprehends only an aspect of phenomenality but isn't phenomenality itself, in my opinion. With other words, what we are able to apprehend intelectually and discribe can't not even be a plausible explanation for phenomenality because there is nothing outside phenomenality which could be described as existing or non-existing. To describe phenomenality with a claim of objectivity is absurd as long as I am a part of it and, when will I stop being a part of it or did I begin someday to be a part of it? I am a "reflexive" manifestation of phenomenality for a very short period and the question about the essence of phenomenality is only relevant as long as I'm conscious of myself. The reflexivity had a beginning and will have an end, phenomenality will be experienced as long there is something or someone able to do it. But, phenomenality can't be described exclusively, in my opinion, neither as movement or non-movement itself. The point is, until which degree someone is able to abstract oneself psychologically from the projected and perceived reality. The search for the absolute is just a stage. The reinsertion of the absolute into the phenomenal and viceversa creates the notion of wholeness. This notion of wholeness overlaps today to a great extent with scientifical data and their possible explanations of what we perceive as empirical reality. I think, we will never "understand" phenomenality in its essence, because there is between phenomenality and the "absolute" no comprehensible difference. There is in fact, nothing to understand. With other words: it is impossible to explain something which neither exists nor non-exists but it is a nice pastime. The dream-like character of phenomenality makes a rational penetration impossible. It follows no linearity or logic causal chains in its essence. That's perhaps a disappointing result of many experiments on quantum physics. But, who says that rational things must have logical and linear explanations. a bow to you sk The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 Hi sk, - skogen Nisargadatta Saturday, October 11, 2003 04:28 PM Re: A mosaic of expressings Dear Sandeep, thanks for this great compilation of quotes. There are many things to comment; I will try it piece by piece without thinking to much The world as a holomovement. The tangible world is movement,... not a collection of moving objects, but movement itself. There are no objects 'in movements'. It is the movement which constitutes the objects, some of which are architectured to sense "other" objects, through the attribute of the property, known as sentience. In essence there is nothing but movement, ...........as phenomenality. A nuance of which, is this very stating. ------------ Wholeness is flowing movement. With the hologram, the movement of interference patterns of coherent light enfolds a subtle range of structures and orders. In a similar, but unthinkably vaster, way, the whole movement or "holomovement" of the universe carries the implicate order and allows us to see and experience our four-dimensional space-time world. - An expressing through the objects named Briggs and Peat, in Looking Glass Universe sk: The underlying idea is, in my opinion, here again "his wholiness". This concept is useful on a spiritual level. "Spiritual" level as contrasted with what? Either eveything is spiritual, or nothing is. An important phase on the path towards a deeper understandment of phenomenality, perhaps. Also the notion of movement vs non-movement. The relevance of these questions are more than scientific, psychological. To describe phenomenality as "movement itself" sounds plausible. Why not? The opposite would work too, if we say phenomenality is in essence complete non-movement and manifests itself as movement due to the way we are able to apprehend it. Indeed. Very well put. Phenomenality, itself is a consequence of an apprehension of it. No apprehenser, .........nothing apprehended. Phenomenality as movement, as within this gestalt, change is cognized, ...............once again such a cognition arising from the very architecture of the manifest cognizer. It's like the cold sweat that the "dreamed-sk" sheds when facing a dreamed-mugger, ...........in the dream-sequence of the dream, last night. Within the dream, there is frenyz, much ado, must ethos, tremendous pathos, .....there is love, there is hate, there is joy, sorrow,.....there is successes, failures, achievements, goals to be achieved, ......there is knowledge, both the profound ones and the profane ones,...there are experiences, ...... ....in essence........movement. And........positing,......... a ................."still/not-moving- dreamer",............ of that dream,.....is also part of the same dream. Consciousness impregnates phenomenality with movement. Phenomenality has no independent reality, to be impregnated. Since good old Consciousness, has crept in here,:-).... .........Consciousness-in-movement, .......is the appearance of phenomenality. Just like, at a certain speed of the rotating blades of the ceiling fan,........an appearance of a circle,.........appears. That circle has no independent existential reality. Movement itself comprehends only an aspect of phenomenality but isn't phenomenality itself, in my opinion. With other words, what we are able to apprehend intelectually and discribe can't not even be a plausible explanation for phenomenality because there is nothing outside phenomenality which could be described as existing or non-existing. I thought you were positing a Consciousness humping phenomenality, which would necessarily have to be apart from phenomenality.<LOL> However, sk,.........there is a reality, .........which while being phenomenality, ..........is simultaneously,....... not phenomenality. Now, in the very stating of that,..........all that has occured is that a concept has been conceptualized. To describe phenomenality with a claim of objectivity is absurd as long as I am a part of it and, when will I stop being a part of it or did I begin someday to be a part of it? Thus, anybody saying, or conveying by any other means,............ anything about something, .......to somebody, ..........anywhere,........ at some time, .......ever..... .........all that has occurred, ...........in the moment,........ is the birthing of a concept. Whether it is the Beedi dude, or the dude in the diaper or the dude on the cross or the dude who liked Bodhi trees. I am a "reflexive" manifestation of phenomenality for a very short period and the question about the essence of phenomenality is only relevant as long as I'm conscious of myself. Yes. When I am all there IS, I couldn't care two hoots about my essence. Which was conceptualized as "Awareness not aware of itself". The intoxicating delight of the chase for an answer to the question of the essence,.........can only arise, from a pretence. The reflexivity had a beginning and will have an end, phenomenality will be experienced as long there is something or someone able to do it. But, phenomenality can't be described exclusively, in my opinion, neither as movement or non-movement itself. ====== Maybe it's the connotations. Phenomenality is the term used to connote the appearing circle from the rotating ceiling fan blades. The "wave" in the Ocean, oscillating between the heights of crest and crash of troughs. The point is, until which degree someone is able to abstract oneself psychologically from the projected and perceived reality. The search for the absolute is just a stage. The reinsertion of the absolute into the phenomenal and viceversa creates the notion of wholeness. The term "absolute", has a relevance only in the gestalt of relativity. Advaita, has a meaning only within the gestalt of dvait. There is a state of absoluteness (using a conceptual term for this dialogue),...........where all relevancies,..... no longer have any relevance. And once again, in stating so,..........a concept arises. This notion of wholeness overlaps today to a great extent with scientifical data and their possible explanations of what we perceive as empirical reality. There is no empirical reality. That phenomenality has happened, .......for the need for it to be explained.......is itself a conceptual conjecture. I think, we will never "understand" phenomenality in its essence, because there is between phenomenality and the "absolute" no comprehensible difference. Indeed. Any understanding, will need a duality for understanding to arise. And yet there is an apperceiving, which is the perceiving without a perceiver. An ending of the pretence, in a manifest object which itself is a consequence of that pretence. There is in fact, nothing to understand. And neither not-to-understand. Something to be understood, or nothing to understood, .........both have a relevance only in the gestalt of a pretence. With other words: it is impossible to explain something which neither exists nor non-exists but it is a nice pastime. The dream-like character of phenomenality makes a rational penetration impossible. It follows no linearity or logic causal chains in its essence. That's perhaps a disappointing result of many experiments on quantum physics. But, who says that rational things must have logical and linear explanations. :-) Indeed. a bow to you Enjoyed that pastime,..... sk. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2003 Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 Hi all, Sandeep quoted: Mind, I believe, exists as fleeting energy in parallel universes. The universe we perceive consists of the overlap of these fleeting flashes of energy. The patterns create mind as surely as they create matter. Both the existence of matter and the perception of it are the same thing. An expressing through the object named Fred Allen Wolf in Parallel Universes sk: when I hear the terminus, parallel universe, I really don't know what to imagine. I have no clear concept respecting this expression which sounds to me kind of pseudo-scientific and more if it is associated to concepts like energy. On the other side I could easily imagine that my neighbour is living in a parallel universe in relation to mine. Nothing extraordinary, a short small-talk while carrying out the garbage to the waste container is enough to confirm that. I'm sure he thinks something similar sometimes. Are our short encounters and talks we have, the fleeting flashes of energy that overlap? I'm not sure sometimes, if my wife and my children live in parallel universes but, I know for sure that they perceive things in a different way as I do and, of course, project a differently digested apperception of reality. The apperception of an ant is different to mine as human being. A dog lives in a cosmos painted with a manifold of odors I can't retrace or understand. Are this parallel universes? What means parallel here, actually? Autonomous universes separated geometrically and in time perhaps, too? Fred Allen Wolf goes a little further and states then: "The universe we perceive consists of the overlap of these fleeting flashes of energy." Mind as fleeting flashes of energy in parallel universes and the perception of an universe as result of an overlapping of these flashes of energy. I think the best would be to ask Fred Allen Wolf, what he really means or to read his book. Or, perhaps there is someone here on the list, who can offer a lucid explanation. As for me, I don't see parallelisms. Diversity?, Yes! but, that's perhaps because I'm sitting upon the moon of some other blue planet. regards sk P.D. I meant yesterday with "empirical reality" causal constellations which are reproduceable and nearly always lead to the same result. No association intended with the concept empiricism. But, why not, now? Isn't the process of denying (relativising as inconsistent) every empiricism as soon it appears part of the game, here. The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 Dear Sandeep, dear all, Sandeep <sandeepc wrote: A single result arises from many causes. sk: ...a single result? Is there such thing as "a single"? Where there is no single, there is no "many causes". Empiricisms and attempts to find an explanation bejond phenomenality. Phenomenalty is itself the explanation. The way "a single" believes to experience phenomenality is a fallacy: single or many causes is after all the same discriminating vision, observed particularity confined by wholeness, observed wholeness confined by particularity. Nothing is produced by one single cause; sk: a single cause can produce connotativly something, and that's the notion of nothing... that's the problem with words. "Nothing" is empty opulence ...voidness in colours........everything can is caused by a single cause, by the cause of itself. Who projects continuity? The combination of practically infinite number of causes is necessary to bring about a result. The seed without the co-operation of earth, dampness, light, etc. will never become a tree. sk: result would be a "single" one, in this equation. Why not: an infinite number of causes bring about an infinite number of causes. I'm deluded as long I consider myself a result...I'm deluded as long I consider myself an infinite number of causes. I'm not even writing this or vitnessing the act of volition beyond every letter. How can I speak about cause and effect, when there is no difference between this concepts outside an experimental field. The most sublime poetry, the most profound prose, the highest acts of creativity, no matter what is the medium of expression,........ needs that precise combination of the neuro-transmitting chemicals like serotonin-dopamine-oxycyticin (among others), in the synaptic gaps in the neural network of the brain. sk: there is nothing such as a precise combination, which could be able to be observed. Not even a precise or perfect result of that combination...it is perfect when I avert my eyes before I look at it. But, even this act does influence every posiible constellation. BTW, Sandeep, the highest acts of creativity are in the eyes of the beholder. Sublime, precise and perfect are the terms which causes the endless suffering of those capable to contemplate themselves as in-divid(ire)-ualsand the others, too. It is this prevailing chemical profile of the millions of synapses in the brain, which is now seen, in turn to affect the HPA axis, (Hypothalamus-Pituitary-Adrenal),................... in precisely the specific manner, .....................such that, the exact instructions are carried out by the physiological system, such that those precise words, actions, behaviour erupt, as external actualizations. In the moment. sk: baloney Moment to moment to moment. sk: baloney to baloney, from voidness to voidness The dynamically changing chemical profile of a responding organism, is both genetic in origin as well as the result of the impacting influences and inputs it receives while the organism is "alive". sk: Dynamic includes death and dis-appereance , no dynamic is in a wider sense possible excluding death and nothing but a solitary view of a fragment of a dream, perhaps, ends with the death. The dynamic changing chemical profile of an living individual is a temporary arrangement of atoms and moleculs called life and living material has the special particularity of an basic architecture called DNA, a code, transmitted from generation to generation. The individual as transmitter and influencer of the code...in a collective, in a gen-pool would loose his primary function, if he wouldn't die. That´s part of the show. Don't know why this could be a question. The perfection of phenomenalty lies in what we experience as abortive or imperfect. It is completely arrogant to belief that things have to have the perfection we consider adecuate. Genetic origin of any organism whether sentient or otherwise, is the genetic legacy of phenomenality itself. sk: ? And hence, there are only universal causes and universal effects. sk: How did you come to this conclusion only by using the terms "and hence"? It is only the Whole which acts, each act as nuances of the movement of Totality. sk: If the Whole has nuances of the movement of Totality, you can't write neither whole nor totality with capitals. Whether the nuance is an act of scratching your nose, or a seeking of Moksha or a whirling in a state of fana. sk: Scrathing my nose is allready the Whole. Whether it is walking in words in a satsangh, or the frenzy of a transnational corporate merger. sk: ditto Whether it is foraging for food on the streets, or the exploding super nova, in a brilliance of thousand suns. sk: beautiful pictures The universe is multidimensional, creative, and indeterminate, constantly unfolding new 'forms' or subtotalities which are expressions of the whole. The galaxy, the city, the corporation, even the very cells of a human's body are in a ceaseless energy exchange like water flowing through a vortex. - An expressing through the objects named Briggs and Peat, Looking Glass Universe subtotally yours, sk The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 A few questions (Laugh!) Sandeep wrote: "Mind" is a description not a thing. sk: If I say: History! Is it a thing or a description? Is the term "time" a thing? Why should someone think that mind is a thing? The realization that 'mind' is only a word indicating a series of mental phenomena. sk: Do this really need a realization? For the operation of the nervous system, there is no inside or outside, but only maintenance of correlations that continuously change. sk: How did you come to the conclusion that for the operation of the nervous system there is no inside or outside? Correlations between what? Inside and outside? Isnt Self-consciousness, awareness, mind - these are phenomena that take place in language. sk: only awareness or Awareness, too! "'Mind' is not an entity but can be ascribed to a system exhibiting regular behavior. sk: Prokaryonts are able to exhibit a regular behavior, viruses, fungi, too? What's regular? The observation of behavior or my opinion about an observation? - Expressings through the object named Humberto Maturana, The Tree of Knowledge sk The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 The apparant world is a creation of the observer. It is this world which we watch like a play which unfolds outside of ourselves while, in fact, there is nothing there but a canvas bearing many colored patterns, which we have woven and printed in ourselves according to the indications of our erroneous knowledge. - Expressed as The Secret Oral Teachings in Tibetan Buddhist Sects sk: That is, in my opinion, beautifully and plausibly expressed. A canvas with a tri-dimensional conformation arranged by an apperception of rythm. Rythm perhaps, as movement in time like, the vibrations my heart produces with every beat. Even these vibrations get subtler and subtler, overlap with billions and billions of others...with the vibrations created by the supernova...without accumulating nothing, not here and not there...in the point of the heart where yesterday and tomorrow flow into one another...the black hole in the eye of a reptile. The apparent world, the one which is perceived, with its figures, its brightness, its colors, is a psychical product, a creation of the observer. The figures seen on the vault of heaven are neither the celestial bodies, nor the true clouds or the falling stars, but are only effigies which the observer's psyche has created and localized how and where it can. sk: How overwhelming is it to be able to share this world for a moment; how immensly sad can it be to loose that "moment". A step aside...and suddenly I see myself acting in that film, another step and I'm dead and everything, alive as never before. sk The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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