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" His (UG's) words and images will infect your mind

like a virus. "

 

Steve.

 

 

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Try it this way.

 

" The mind " is nothing but belief systems.

 

Starting with the first belief system " I am " .

 

Now, what does a virus do?

 

It eats away at stuff.

 

 

Are you a belief system?

If so, then you have plenty to be concerned about.

If not, then you have nothing to be concerned about.

 

So it all comes down to, " What am I, really? "

 

 

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Hi Everyone,

 

I see there is lot of discussion about Nisargadatta vs

U.G. I have read (almost) the complete works of

Nisargadatta and very little of U.G. They both

essentially say the same.

 

Lets take just one example.

 

In one of his talks Nisargaddatta, rather at the end

of it, asks the congregation " How many of you

understood what I said " ?..Some people raise their

hands. He tells them not to come back. And then he

asks " How many people did not understand what he

said " .? Rest of them raise their hands. He tells them

not to come back. U.G. says the right Guru is somebody

who is going to give you freedom from him.

 

I can quote a lot more.

 

Afterall, how much can you interpret nothingness.? It

still remains as nothing.

 

Regards,

 

Gopi

 

--- yacobyisrael <yacobyisrael wrote:

> El,

> I am starting to see the difference between the two

> quite clearly.

> For me UG's ideas are eye opening but at the same

> time disheartening

> as he concludes with something like, " now that you

> have heard these

> concepts they are dangerous to you. You are

> trapped " . There is

> also alot of hype from either him or his followers

> (as directed by

> him?) like (from UGkrishnamurti.org) " once you have

> read even a few

> words, seen a photo of his, your psyche will never

> be the same. He

> will permeate your being. His words and images will

> infect your mind

> like a virus. So, proceed with caution in exploring

> these

> conversations, quotes and photos. " What is up with

> this type of

> stuff? It seems like UG would discourage this type

> of thing being

> attached to his name judging from his own claims

> that he has nothing

> to teach, etc... Is this type of thing the ultimate

> promo??

>

> Steve

>

> Nisargadatta , " Elizabeth

> Wells "

> <el_wells_2004> wrote:

> > Nisargadatta ,

> " yacobyisrael "

> > <yacobyisrael> wrote:

> > > Greetings,

> > > I have also begun reading Nisargadatta and it

> seems he has a

> > much

> > > different take than UG. UG says there is " no way

> out " while

> > > Nisargatta offers much guidance (which is

> encouraging).

> > From

> > > reading a bit of both it seems UG would say

> Nisargatta is a

> > fraud??

> > >

> > > Do I have a wrong understanding or am I getting

> UG correctly?

> > >

> > > Steve

> > --------

> >

> >

> > Steve:

> >

> > Nisargadatta is encouraging.

> >

> > ---------------

> >

> > El :

> >

> > Nisargadatta (from " I Am That " ) :

> > go home. marry the girl who is waiting for you.

> > nobody else needs you........

> >

> >

> > ---------------

> >

> > UG:

> >

> > No way out.

> >

> >

> > ---------------

> >

> >

> >

> > .

>

>

 

 

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