Steve-----Nisargadatta vs. UG / Steve out

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Nisargadatta , " yacobyisrael "

<yacobyisrael> wrote:

> Greetings Josesiem,

> No I do not have a dislike for sitting in contemplation but had

been

> told and that one can just as well convert any activity into this

> contemplation. I also had heard Papji mention that sitting in a

> meditative state is really just concentration (I completely accept

if

> I have misunderstood what he was saying as he was hard to

understand

> in the video). UG gives the impression that meditation is

> just " mentalistics " (That is the only way I can describe what I get

> out of his " non-teaching " ). So, I have been " letting my mind go at

> itself " while I am driving, playing with my kids,etc.. the paradox

is

> always rolling around in my mind.... which I have verified for

myself

> as being what many on this list claim to be still just the " seeking

> function of the mind trying to perpetuate itself " ... What really

> shorts the circut is seeing that all I am doing is feeding the mind.

> My mind is such a whore and slave to searching it will even use a

> doctrine such as Advaita to " cannabalize " itself.... just as long

as

> it gets to seek, search, contemplate, whatever... that much I feel

I

> have varified on my own. But ya know what? I forgive myself and

I'm

> not going to let it get to me. As one said earlier... a butterfly

can

> sit on a pile of dirt.. A few weeks ago someone said that this type

> of " inquiry/verification " very well may be enough and " de-

> personalization " will happen on it's own.... At the very least I

can

> see the kind of tricks the mind tries to work. Now it can play

> tricks with itself. HOWEVER: If meditation can help me then by all

> means give me some pointers as I have never seriously tried it.

>

> Hope this makes sense.

>

> Steve

 

This sounds like meditation to me! I don't mean doing mental

gymnastics or making a big ritual out of it, but just the intense

inward looking and questioning -- and you're right you can do it

anytime. Of course, sitting in a quiet place has advantages in that

you can go deeper. At least this is my experience.

 

Joe