Awareness, mindfulness disolves all

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Nisargadatta , " Era " <satkarta7@j...> wrote:

> I had a tangled up energy problem at my throat for over a year and

> anything I tried just amplified it, but resently I found a way to

> disolve it. What happened a friend mentioned a sensation around the

> medula oblangata during sadhana, or channeling what lead me to

these

> pointers and the chaos, pressure and pain at my neck caused by the

> upward Kundalini force clashing there with the downward god-Tumo

> used in Jnana and Surat Shabda Yoga meditation dissolved

>

>

> " During my insight Vipassana meditation practice I discovered a

kind

> of

> flashing tingling light radiating energy sometimes located at the

> back of the neck or between the shoulder blades, sometimes the top

> of the head or even above the head.

>

> I used to think it was just me who experienced this but I was

> at a Vipassana retreat a few months ago and the nun was giving

> instructions on walking meditation and she mentioned the sense of

> awareness being located just as you describe. Another teacher

> mentioned this as a shift of awareness out of the frontal lobs into

> global viewing.

>

> I found that this energy would either pulse up or down or kind of

> stay in one place as if fed from behind the area instead of above

or

> below, depending on my will; I can make it happen when I desire,

and

> I can choose which direction it goes, but I did not know and still

> do not know whether it was correct or incorrect to manipulate the

> energy in one direction or the other, and also I have noticed the

> energy really does not want to go any lower than between my

shoulder

> blades. "

>

> Surat, the sensation energy is the awareness. So where awareness is

> focused, there will be sensation, where sensation is, there is

> awareness. There can be energy blocks, body is really layers of

mind.

>

> There are yogis who get their energy in a knot and then have to it

> sort it out

>

> If you are aware of a strong sensation, then this would be noticed,

> first the sensation of rising than falling and mind stays here, but

> if something very strong arose then this becomes primary object

> one could place attention in this energy with mindful concentration

> which is to cover, penetrate deeply until it dissolved and with

the

> aim of seeing into the impermanent nature of it then, something

else

> may arise liking, disliking, or release and then this would be

> penetrated with mindfulness until it dissolves and return

> to rising falling sensation.

>

> There is a process of disidentification, deconstruction of the I

and

> body that is habituated conditioned to own phenomena which can

cause

> suffering

>

> Awareness will begin to have a global feeling and there will be a

> shift in perspective. That's a bit general.

>

> Experimenting with awareness extending 360 degrees all around one,

> tuning into sensation, staying with it and then if you go blank,

use

> this as object of awareness. Be aware of the in-breath and out-

> breath filling space 360 degrees all around.

>

>

> -----

>

> lesson for me was one can not mix the two energies: the Kundalini

> force had to ground first

>

> If someone has input on this I would appreciate it

>

>

> Era

 

yes Era, i have a very sharp input on this one because a heavy long

and successful practice on the knot in the throat but i don't have

the kundalini analysis and language to put it the way you want, and

maybe that's also the reason you won't have much feedback on it;

the lingo being one thing and the imagery and spacial conception of

it with many impressions coming in.

i tend to think that cutting through the gordian knot with

alexander's sword is good enough (but diantanglement is commendable

too and might help for future different tasks, especially knowing

what kind of character two-horned alexander was!)

eric

[Guest guest]

I had a tangled up energy problem at my throat for over a year and

anything I tried just amplified it, but resently I found a way to

disolve it. What happened a friend mentioned a sensation around the

medula oblangata during sadhana, or channeling what lead me to these

pointers and the chaos, pressure and pain at my neck caused by the

upward Kundalini force clashing there with the downward god-Tumo

used in Jnana and Surat Shabda Yoga meditation dissolved

 

 

" During my insight Vipassana meditation practice I discovered a kind

of

flashing tingling light radiating energy sometimes located at the

back of the neck or between the shoulder blades, sometimes the top

of the head or even above the head.

 

I used to think it was just me who experienced this but I was

at a Vipassana retreat a few months ago and the nun was giving

instructions on walking meditation and she mentioned the sense of

awareness being located just as you describe. Another teacher

mentioned this as a shift of awareness out of the frontal lobs into

global viewing.

 

I found that this energy would either pulse up or down or kind of

stay in one place as if fed from behind the area instead of above or

below, depending on my will; I can make it happen when I desire, and

I can choose which direction it goes, but I did not know and still

do not know whether it was correct or incorrect to manipulate the

energy in one direction or the other, and also I have noticed the

energy really does not want to go any lower than between my shoulder

blades. "

 

Surat, the sensation energy is the awareness. So where awareness is

focused, there will be sensation, where sensation is, there is

awareness. There can be energy blocks, body is really layers of mind.

 

There are yogis who get their energy in a knot and then have to it

sort it out

 

If you are aware of a strong sensation, then this would be noticed,

first the sensation of rising than falling and mind stays here, but

if something very strong arose then this becomes primary object

one could place attention in this energy with mindful concentration

which is to cover, penetrate deeply until it dissolved and with the

aim of seeing into the impermanent nature of it then, something else

may arise liking, disliking, or release and then this would be

penetrated with mindfulness until it dissolves and return

to rising falling sensation.

 

There is a process of disidentification, deconstruction of the I and

body that is habituated conditioned to own phenomena which can cause

suffering

 

Awareness will begin to have a global feeling and there will be a

shift in perspective. That's a bit general.

 

Experimenting with awareness extending 360 degrees all around one,

tuning into sensation, staying with it and then if you go blank, use

this as object of awareness. Be aware of the in-breath and out-

breath filling space 360 degrees all around.

 

 

-----

 

lesson for me was one can not mix the two energies: the Kundalini

force had to ground first

 

If someone has input on this I would appreciate it

 

 

Era

 

 

 

 

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By being clear about confusion, you become clear of confusion.

 

**Nisargadatta

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