Guest guest Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 (link at the end) Now, for my part, I had rather be troublesome and indiscreet than a flatterer and a dissembler. I confess that there may be some mixture of pride and obstinacy in keeping myself so upright and open as I do, without any consideration of others; and methinks I am a little too free, where I ought least to be so, and that I grow hot by the opposition of respect; and it may be also, that I suffer myself to follow the propension of my own nature for want of art; using the same liberty, speech, and countenance towards great persons, that I bring with me from my own house: I am sensible how much it declines towards incivility and indiscretion but, besides that I am so bred, I have not a wit supple enough to evade a sudden question, and to escape by some evasion, nor to feign a truth, nor memory enough to retain it so feigned; nor, truly, assurance enough to maintain it, and so play the brave out of weakness. And therefore it is that I abandon myself to candour, always to speak as I think, both by complexion and design, leaving the event to fortune. Aristippus was wont to say, that the principal benefit he had extracted from philosophy was that he spoke freely and openly to all. http://www.ibiblio.org/gutenberg/cgi-bin/sdb/t9.cgi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien " <vertvetiver@a...> wrote: > (link at the end) > Now, for my part, I had rather be troublesome and indiscreet than a > flatterer and a dissembler. I confess that there may be some mixture > of pride and obstinacy in keeping myself so upright and open as I do, > without any consideration of others; and methinks I am a little too > free, where I ought least to be so, and that I grow hot by the > opposition of respect; and it may be also, that I suffer myself to > follow the propension of my own nature for want of art; using the > same liberty, speech, and countenance towards great persons, that I > bring with me from my own house: I am sensible how much it declines > towards incivility and indiscretion but, besides that I am so bred, I > have not a wit supple enough to evade a sudden question, and to > escape by some evasion, nor to feign a truth, nor memory enough to > retain it so feigned; nor, truly, assurance enough to maintain it, > and so play the brave out of weakness. And therefore it is that I > abandon myself to candour, always to speak as I think, both by > complexion and design, leaving the event to fortune. Aristippus was > wont to say, that the principal benefit he had extracted from > philosophy was that he spoke freely and openly to all. > http://www.ibiblio.org/gutenberg/cgi-bin/sdb/t9.cgi Eric, why did you post this? sk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Nisargadatta , " skoggman " <skoggman> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien " > <vertvetiver@a...> wrote: > > (link at the end) > > Now, for my part, I had rather be troublesome and indiscreet than a > > flatterer and a dissembler. I confess that there may be some > mixture > > of pride and obstinacy in keeping myself so upright and open as I > do, > > without any consideration of others; and methinks I am a little too > > free, where I ought least to be so, and that I grow hot by the > > opposition of respect; and it may be also, that I suffer myself to > > follow the propension of my own nature for want of art; using the > > same liberty, speech, and countenance towards great persons, that I > > bring with me from my own house: I am sensible how much it declines > > towards incivility and indiscretion but, besides that I am so bred, > I > > have not a wit supple enough to evade a sudden question, and to > > escape by some evasion, nor to feign a truth, nor memory enough to > > retain it so feigned; nor, truly, assurance enough to maintain it, > > and so play the brave out of weakness. And therefore it is that I > > abandon myself to candour, always to speak as I think, both by > > complexion and design, leaving the event to fortune. Aristippus was > > wont to say, that the principal benefit he had extracted from > > philosophy was that he spoke freely and openly to all. > > http://www.ibiblio.org/gutenberg/cgi-bin/sdb/t9.cgi > > > Eric, > > why did you post this? > > sk Skoggen i'd like to know you in daily life, you have an interesting penetration into communication... i propose to you an even harder rhetorical challenge, you find any silly text on the net, you post it here and i explain to you why it is at its right place on this list. what do you say Skoggen? gimme a text eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien " <vertvetiver@a...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " skoggman " <skoggman> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien " > > <vertvetiver@a...> wrote: > > > (link at the end) > > > Now, for my part, I had rather be troublesome and indiscreet than > a > > > flatterer and a dissembler. I confess that there may be some > > mixture > > > of pride and obstinacy in keeping myself so upright and open as I > > do, > > > without any consideration of others; and methinks I am a little > too > > > free, where I ought least to be so, and that I grow hot by the > > > opposition of respect; and it may be also, that I suffer myself > to > > > follow the propension of my own nature for want of art; using the > > > same liberty, speech, and countenance towards great persons, that > I > > > bring with me from my own house: I am sensible how much it > declines > > > towards incivility and indiscretion but, besides that I am so > bred, > > I > > > have not a wit supple enough to evade a sudden question, and to > > > escape by some evasion, nor to feign a truth, nor memory enough > to > > > retain it so feigned; nor, truly, assurance enough to maintain > it, > > > and so play the brave out of weakness. And therefore it is that I > > > abandon myself to candour, always to speak as I think, both by > > > complexion and design, leaving the event to fortune. Aristippus > was > > > wont to say, that the principal benefit he had extracted from > > > philosophy was that he spoke freely and openly to all. > > > http://www.ibiblio.org/gutenberg/cgi-bin/sdb/t9.cgi > > > > > > Eric, > > > > why did you post this? > > > > sk > > Skoggen i'd like to know you in daily life, you have an interesting > penetration into communication... > i propose to you an even harder rhetorical challenge, you find any > silly text on the net, you post it here and i explain to you why it > is at its right place on this list. > what do you say Skoggen? > gimme a text > eric furthermore, have you read some of ChuangTzu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Eric, why did you post this? sk Eric answers enigmatically: Skoggen i'd like to know you in daily life, you have an interesting penetration into communication... sk: they call me the " Penetrator " :-) i propose to you an even harder rhetorical challenge, you find any silly text on the net, you post it here and i explain to you why it is at its right place on this list. sk: Refreshing surprise, I thought this was the hardest. what do you say Skoggen? sk: you didn't answer the question. gimme a text sk: You already have it. the perforator Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 > > Eric, > > > > why did you post this? > > > > sk furthermore, have you read some of ChuangTzu? sk: Yes, the menu. the perpetrator Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien " <vertvetiver@a...> wrote: > (link at the end) > Now, for my part, I had rather be troublesome and indiscreet than a > flatterer and a dissembler. I confess that there may be some mixture > of pride and obstinacy in keeping myself so upright and open as I do, > without any consideration of others; and methinks I am a little too > free, where I ought least to be so, and that I grow hot by the > opposition of respect; and it may be also, that I suffer myself to > follow the propension of my own nature for want of art; using the > same liberty, speech, and countenance towards great persons, that I > bring with me from my own house: I am sensible how much it declines > towards incivility and indiscretion but, besides that I am so bred, I > have not a wit supple enough to evade a sudden question, and to > escape by some evasion, nor to feign a truth, nor memory enough to > retain it so feigned; nor, truly, assurance enough to maintain it, > and so play the brave out of weakness. And therefore it is that I > abandon myself to candour, always to speak as I think, both by > complexion and design, leaving the event to fortune. Aristippus was > wont to say, that the principal benefit he had extracted from > philosophy was that he spoke freely and openly to all. > http://www.ibiblio.org/gutenberg/cgi-bin/sdb/t9.cgi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien " <vertvetiver@a...> wrote: > (link at the end) > Now, for my part, I had rather be troublesome and indiscreet than a > flatterer and a dissembler. I confess that there may be some mixture > of pride and obstinacy in keeping myself so upright and open as I do, > without any consideration of others; and methinks I am a little too > free, where I ought least to be so, and that I grow hot by the > opposition of respect; and it may be also, that I suffer myself to > follow the propension of my own nature for want of art; using the > same liberty, speech, and countenance towards great persons, that I > bring with me from my own house: I am sensible how much it declines > towards incivility and indiscretion but, besides that I am so bred, I > have not a wit supple enough to evade a sudden question, and to > escape by some evasion, nor to feign a truth, nor memory enough to > retain it so feigned; nor, truly, assurance enough to maintain it, > and so play the brave out of weakness. And therefore it is that I > abandon myself to candour, always to speak as I think, both by > complexion and design, leaving the event to fortune. Aristippus was > wont to say, that the principal benefit he had extracted from > philosophy was that he spoke freely and openly to all. > http://www.ibiblio.org/gutenberg/cgi-bin/sdb/t9.cgi Gotta love the French! They put Krishnamurti's ramblings to shame. Jeez. Montaigne and Derrida -- what a pair. :-) Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.