Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 > KKT: What a sacrilege, Pete :-)) > > I prefer this one: > > << Before Abraham was, I AM >> > > After all, this is a Nisargadatta list :-)) > > > KKT Indeed -- and thus, nothing I said was inconsistent with Nisargadatta. N who said that prior to I AM, is no-thing. No am-ing for any I to do. Ayn = nothing. Which is not the nothing that is known as nothing, far from it! But it's too shocking to find out that this truth has been here in Western tradition all along. No, we can only validate it from a mysterious Eastern guru -- that's the ticket. When in fact, it's been shouting from the rooftops right here in the West for centuries. Ah, but it takes ears to hear, after all. :-) -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 If Christ was " I AM " in the flesh then " I AM " in me is the hope of Glory. ;-) S Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> wrote: > > KKT: What a sacrilege, Pete :-)) > > > > I prefer this one: > > > > << Before Abraham was, I AM >> > > > > After all, this is a Nisargadatta list :-)) > > > > > > KKT > > Indeed -- and thus, nothing I said was inconsistent > with Nisargadatta. > > N who said that prior to I AM, is no-thing. > > No am-ing for any I to do. > > Ayn = nothing. > > Which is not the nothing that is known as nothing, > far from it! > > But it's too shocking to find out that this truth > has been here in Western tradition all along. > > No, we can only validate it from a mysterious Eastern > guru -- that's the ticket. > > When in fact, it's been shouting from the rooftops > right here in the West for centuries. > > Ah, but it takes ears to hear, after all. > > :-) > > -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 Nisargadatta , " yacobyisrael " <yacobyisrael> wrote: > If Christ was " I AM " in the flesh then " I AM " in me is the hope of > Glory. ;-) > > S flesh is either the best place or the worst for " I am " according to moods ;-) eric ps: the worse the mood the best the 'i am', for the ekagrata penetration into attention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 Beloved Readers, Thank you for this impressive sentence! ''If Christ was " I AM " in the flesh then " I AM " in me is the hope of Glory. '' This concept condenses for my feelings the misery of religious misunderstanding. From the Guru-Concept, here as example ''Christ'', the follower finds his own ''glory''. ViceVersa: an attac of the Guru-Concept is an attac on the ''glory'' of the disciple. That is, what I call the ''Fuehrer'' principle. ''Fuehrer'' is the one in power: a priest or a politician. The symbol for all power on heaven and earth is the concept of ''GOD''. Now: a disciple of this concept ''GOD'' - like Christ again as example - represents from ''his father above'' this ultimate power-concept. Naturally the disciples of the GOD-disciple Christ represents in logical line the power of ''GOD''. So politicians like Bush or Ayatollah Khomeni or the Pope in Vatican represent the power of GOD-Jesus disciple - the ultimate glory. This dream of followers continues in most religions. This dream creates war against the other, who claims the same right, the right of ''his GOD''. In this line the ''Fuehrer'' in politics, the ''Master'' in religions, have the same result for the mind of the followers: blind against other opinions beliefs close the body-mind-heart structure to the worst result: people start to retard like zoombies. Mechanics from mind to body-heart-muscle-cell-structure. Zoombies ordered by ''Fuehrer'' or ''Master''. Cause this phenomenon the urge for suicide or murder? Cause this phenomenon mass psychotic slaughteries? yours n0by with love n0by/ http://n0by.de - yacobyisrael Nisargadatta Friday, November 21, 2003 5:20 AM Re: Eternal Life/Pham If Christ was " I AM " in the flesh then " I AM " in me is the hope of Glory. ;-) S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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