Guest guest Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 Greetings Everyone, I have read that both Niz and UG said that they are in a permanent state of Samadhi. Is this permanent Samadhi of the same essence as the momentary Samadhi achieved by meditation, only just a constant state? What I find a bit of a contradiction on UG's part is that he says Samadhi is just a state that is conjured up by the mind, yet he claims to be in a permanent Samadhi. Are there different qualities of Samadhi? Yeah, I know I should be sitting on the beach here on a perfectly sunny day here in Florida... but you guys, to me, are more enjoyable at the present moment. Pete, I ask myself the question you asked a few days ago.... what the hell is wrong with me, man?? Enjoying you all, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 Nisargadatta , " yacobyisrael " <yacobyisrael> wrote: > Greetings Everyone, > I have read that both Niz and UG said that they are in a permanent > state of Samadhi. Is this permanent Samadhi of the same essence as > the momentary Samadhi achieved by meditation, only just a constant > state? What I find a bit of a contradiction on UG's part is that he > says Samadhi is just a state that is conjured up by the mind, yet he > claims to be in a permanent Samadhi. Are there different qualities of > Samadhi? > > Yeah, I know I should be sitting on the beach here on a perfectly > sunny day here in Florida... but you guys, to me, are more enjoyable > at the present moment. Pete, I ask myself the question you asked a > few days ago.... what the hell is wrong with me, man?? > > Enjoying you all, > Steve obviously you can't enjoy your samadhi eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 Hi Steve, permanent samadhi/sahaja samadhi is the state of consciousness of the Sage.... Confession of the Jnani by Robert Adams For the Jnani who has realized the identity of his inner being with the Infinite Brahman, there is no rebirth, no migration and no liberation. He is beyond all this. He is firmly established in his own Absolute, Existence-Knowledge-Bliss true nature. The further ewxistence of his body and the world appears to the Jnani as an illusion which he cannot remove, but which no longer deceives him. After the death of this body, as in life, he remains where and what he eternally is, the first principle of all beings and things: formless, nameless, unsoiled, timeless, dimensionless and utterly free. Death cannot touch him, cravings cannot torture him; he is free from all desire and suffering. He sees the Infinite Self in all, and all in the Infinite Self, which is his Being. The Jnani confesses his experience thus: I am infinite, imperishable, self-luminous, self- existent. I am without beginning or end. I am birthless, deathless, without change or decay. I pemeate and interpenetrate all things. In the myriad universes of thought and creation, I ALONE AM. - " yacobyisrael " <yacobyisrael <Nisargadatta > Monday, November 24, 2003 10:52 AM Samadhi of Niz and UG > Greetings Everyone, > I have read that both Niz and UG said that they are in a permanent > state of Samadhi. Is this permanent Samadhi of the same essence as > the momentary Samadhi achieved by meditation, only just a constant > state? What I find a bit of a contradiction on UG's part is that he > says Samadhi is just a state that is conjured up by the mind, yet he > claims to be in a permanent Samadhi. Are there different qualities of > Samadhi? > > Yeah, I know I should be sitting on the beach here on a perfectly > sunny day here in Florida... but you guys, to me, are more enjoyable > at the present moment. Pete, I ask myself the question you asked a > few days ago.... what the hell is wrong with me, man?? > > Enjoying you all, > Steve > > > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- ondre@c...> wrote: > Hi Steve, > > permanent samadhi/sahaja samadhi is the state of consciousness of the > Sage.... > > Confession of the Jnani > by Robert Adams > > For the Jnani who has realized the identity > of his inner being > with the Infinite Brahman, > there is no rebirth, no migration and no liberation. > He is beyond all this. > He is firmly established in his own Absolute, > Existence-Knowledge-Bliss true nature. > > The further ewxistence of his body and the world > appears to the Jnani as an illusion > which he cannot remove, > but which no longer deceives him. > > After the death of this body, as in life, > he remains where and what he eternally is, > the first principle of all beings and things: > formless, nameless, unsoiled, timeless, dimensionless > and utterly free. > > Death cannot touch him, cravings cannot torture him; he is free from all > desire and suffering. > He sees the Infinite Self in all, and all in the Infinite Self, > which is his Being. > > The Jnani confesses his experience thus: > > I am infinite, imperishable, self-luminous, self- existent. > I am without beginning or end. > I am birthless, deathless, without change or decay. > I pemeate and interpenetrate all things. > In the myriad universes of thought and creation, > > I ALONE AM. with one little detail Jessica, you say : " permanent samadhi/sahaja samadhi is the state of consciousness of the Sage.... " then you quote a splendid text that never wished to say that, read it again please... :-) eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 - " eric paroissien " <vertvetiver indeed Eric. if you read what I wrote back to Dan about using the word pemanent...i don't want to repeat myself...I't's late and I'm tired. jess > with one little detail Jessica, > you say : " permanent samadhi/sahaja samadhi is the state of > consciousness of the Sage.... " > then you quote a splendid text that never wished to say that, read it > again please... > :-) > eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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