Steve/Samadhi of Superman enables one to leap tall buildings in single bound

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " yacobyisrael "

<yacobyisrael> wrote:

> Greetings Everyone,

> I have read that both Niz and UG said that they are in a permanent

> state of Samadhi. Is this permanent Samadhi of the same essence as

> the momentary Samadhi achieved by meditation, only just a constant

> state? What I find a bit of a contradiction on UG's part is that he

> says Samadhi is just a state that is conjured up by the mind, yet

he

> claims to be in a permanent Samadhi. Are there different qualities

of

> Samadhi?

>

> Yeah, I know I should be sitting on the beach here on a perfectly

> sunny day here in Florida... but you guys, to me, are more

enjoyable

> at the present moment. Pete, I ask myself the question you asked a

> few days ago.... what the hell is wrong with me, man??

>

> Enjoying you all,

> Steve

 

If anyone tells you about a permanent samadhi they

are in, which other people aren't in, then

that would make whatever it is they are talking

about very limited, wouldn't it?

 

It would make it a personal possession that exists

in one portion of time and space and not another

portion of time and space (occupied by another person).

 

Not only would such a thing be quite limited, and therefore

unsatisfactory to one who wants truth that doesn't depend

on the limitations of personal experience which is accessed

by a personal being who begins and ends and occupies

a particular space and time -- not only would it be

limited, but I think you'd need to ask yourself -- why am I

interested in these kinds of claims?

 

Because as far as I'm concerned, the only possible explanation

is greed and anxiety --

I want to get something for me that is permanent

and wonderful, and thereby be able to avoid the anxiety about

the transience of all experience.

 

Because of that greed and anxiety, one amplifies something

someone said, places all critical inquiry on hold, and starts

saying, " wow, what's that about - how can I get there -- how

can I get something permanent and wonderful like that for me? "

 

Of course, none of that has anything to do with investigating

the nature of this me that wants to have some kind of permanent

state to be in.

 

If you investigate that 'me,' you may end up laughing at anyone

making claims to be in some kind of perfect and permanent

samadhi -- it may suddenly be clear to you why such claims

have been so popular throughout the centuries, who it is

that wants to have that permanent state -- and you may

also chuckle about the

related myths about people who live forever, or have

supernatural powers, and what not.

 

Good luck,

Dan

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033>

wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " yacobyisrael "

> <yacobyisrael> wrote:

> > Greetings Everyone,

> > I have read that both Niz and UG said that they are in a

permanent

> > state of Samadhi. Is this permanent Samadhi of the same essence

as

> > the momentary Samadhi achieved by meditation, only just a

constant

> > state? What I find a bit of a contradiction on UG's part is that

he

> > says Samadhi is just a state that is conjured up by the mind, yet

> he

> > claims to be in a permanent Samadhi. Are there different

qualities

> of

> > Samadhi?

> >

> > Yeah, I know I should be sitting on the beach here on a perfectly

> > sunny day here in Florida... but you guys, to me, are more

> enjoyable

> > at the present moment. Pete, I ask myself the question you asked

a

> > few days ago.... what the hell is wrong with me, man??

> >

> > Enjoying you all,

> > Steve

>

> If anyone tells you about a permanent samadhi they

> are in, which other people aren't in, then

> that would make whatever it is they are talking

> about very limited, wouldn't it?

>

> It would make it a personal possession that exists

> in one portion of time and space and not another

> portion of time and space (occupied by another person).

>

> Not only would such a thing be quite limited, and therefore

> unsatisfactory to one who wants truth that doesn't depend

> on the limitations of personal experience which is accessed

> by a personal being who begins and ends and occupies

> a particular space and time -- not only would it be

> limited, but I think you'd need to ask yourself -- why am I

> interested in these kinds of claims?

>

> Because as far as I'm concerned, the only possible explanation

> is greed and anxiety --

> I want to get something for me that is permanent

> and wonderful, and thereby be able to avoid the anxiety about

> the transience of all experience.

>

> Because of that greed and anxiety, one amplifies something

> someone said, places all critical inquiry on hold, and starts

> saying, " wow, what's that about - how can I get there -- how

> can I get something permanent and wonderful like that for me? "

>

> Of course, none of that has anything to do with investigating

> the nature of this me that wants to have some kind of permanent

> state to be in.

>

> If you investigate that 'me,' you may end up laughing at anyone

> making claims to be in some kind of perfect and permanent

> samadhi -- it may suddenly be clear to you why such claims

> have been so popular throughout the centuries, who it is

> that wants to have that permanent state -- and you may

> also chuckle about the

> related myths about people who live forever, or have

> supernatural powers, and what not.

>

> Good luck,

> Dan

 

Dan this is not very fair for people like me who have cultivated

those powers for years:

i can fart-play any national anthem and the joy of it is permanent

eric

[Guest guest]

Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien "

<vertvetiver@a...> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033>

> wrote:

> > Nisargadatta , " yacobyisrael "

> > <yacobyisrael> wrote:

> > > Greetings Everyone,

> > > I have read that both Niz and UG said that they are in a

> permanent

> > > state of Samadhi. Is this permanent Samadhi of the same

essence

> as

> > > the momentary Samadhi achieved by meditation, only just a

> constant

> > > state? What I find a bit of a contradiction on UG's part is

that

> he

> > > says Samadhi is just a state that is conjured up by the mind,

yet

> > he

> > > claims to be in a permanent Samadhi. Are there different

> qualities

> > of

> > > Samadhi?

> > >

> > > Yeah, I know I should be sitting on the beach here on a

perfectly

> > > sunny day here in Florida... but you guys, to me, are more

> > enjoyable

> > > at the present moment. Pete, I ask myself the question you

asked

> a

> > > few days ago.... what the hell is wrong with me, man??

> > >

> > > Enjoying you all,

> > > Steve

 

 

Hi Steve,

 

You are hopeless, dude! Did you read on the night of your wedding?

 

Anyway, here is a hard bone for you to chew on, but promise me you

will only think of this when drunk.

 

There are absolutely no permanent states. The permanent is not

interested in permanency. Au contraire ( did I spell that right,

Eric?) the permanent loves impermanency. The Ground Of Being plays at

hide and seek, and as soon as it finds, it looses interest and

forgets. Don't ask me why, don't ask me how.

 

Have some fried ripe plantain, Cuban roasted chicken and black beans

and rice.