Guest guest Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 Oh no, Jess -- we've resorted to throwing quotes at each other, now, have we? There are probably five million quotes you can come up with promoting some kind of absolute permanent state, many of them derived from Hindu thought, like the quote below. If you look harder though, you can find at least a whole lot that say there is no permanent state, and which look into the kind of grasping involved in claiming or going after one. In fact, this is the raison d'etre for Gautama's (at that time and place) revolutionary way of teaching. But, obviously, there is no permanence in a quote. One day, not only will the individual who made that claim for himself or herself be dead, but the entire culture that supported that language and thought will be gone, that planet will be defunct, and that solar system no more. So, rather than throwing quotes about permanent samadhis or satoris, I'd much rather hear from you, Jessica, what it's like for you to be there. Clearly a second-hand report is very unreliable, and certainly is also a transient phenomenon. -- Dan Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- ondre@c...> wrote: > Hi Steve, > > permanent samadhi/sahaja samadhi is the state of consciousness of the > Sage.... > > Confession of the Jnani > by Robert Adams > > For the Jnani who has realized the identity > of his inner being > with the Infinite Brahman, > there is no rebirth, no migration and no liberation. > He is beyond all this. > He is firmly established in his own Absolute, > Existence-Knowledge-Bliss true nature. > > The further ewxistence of his body and the world > appears to the Jnani as an illusion > which he cannot remove, > but which no longer deceives him. > > After the death of this body, as in life, > he remains where and what he eternally is, > the first principle of all beings and things: > formless, nameless, unsoiled, timeless, dimensionless > and utterly free. > > Death cannot touch him, cravings cannot torture him; he is free from all > desire and suffering. > He sees the Infinite Self in all, and all in the Infinite Self, > which is his Being. > > The Jnani confesses his experience thus: > > I am infinite, imperishable, self-luminous, self- existent. > I am without beginning or end. > I am birthless, deathless, without change or decay. > I pemeate and interpenetrate all things. > In the myriad universes of thought and creation, > > I ALONE AM. > > > > > - > " yacobyisrael " <yacobyisrael> > <Nisargadatta > > Monday, November 24, 2003 10:52 AM > Samadhi of Niz and UG > > > > Greetings Everyone, > > I have read that both Niz and UG said that they are in a permanent > > state of Samadhi. Is this permanent Samadhi of the same essence as > > the momentary Samadhi achieved by meditation, only just a constant > > state? What I find a bit of a contradiction on UG's part is that he > > says Samadhi is just a state that is conjured up by the mind, yet he > > claims to be in a permanent Samadhi. Are there different qualities of > > Samadhi? > > > > Yeah, I know I should be sitting on the beach here on a perfectly > > sunny day here in Florida... but you guys, to me, are more enjoyable > > at the present moment. Pete, I ask myself the question you asked a > > few days ago.... what the hell is wrong with me, man?? > > > > Enjoying you all, > > Steve > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 Hi Dan, LOL! you obviously never met Robert! my computer says 2:16. I have to leave here for work at 2:30 BUT IN THE WORDS of our beloved NEW GOVERNOR, " I'LL BE BACK! " smooch, hugs, XXXXXXOOOOOX ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((dan)))))))))))))))))))))))) ( shithead!!!!) : ) just a poppyseed in the universe, jess - " dan330033 " <dan330033 <Nisargadatta > Monday, November 24, 2003 1:45 PM Re: Samadhi of Jessica > Oh no, Jess -- we've resorted to throwing quotes at each other, now, > have we? > > There are probably five million quotes you can come up with > promoting some kind of absolute permanent state, many > of them derived from Hindu thought, like the quote > below. > > If you look harder though, you can find at least a whole lot > that say there is no permanent state, and which look into > the kind of grasping involved in claiming or going after > one. In fact, this is the raison d'etre for Gautama's > (at that time and place) revolutionary way of teaching. > > But, obviously, there is no permanence in a quote. > > One day, not only will the individual who made that claim > for himself or herself be dead, but the entire culture > that supported that language and thought will be gone, > that planet will be defunct, and that solar system no > more. > > So, rather than throwing quotes about permanent samadhis > or satoris, I'd > much rather hear from you, Jessica, what it's like > for you to be there. > > Clearly a second-hand report is very unreliable, and certainly > is also a transient phenomenon. > > -- Dan > > > Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- > ondre@c...> wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > > > permanent samadhi/sahaja samadhi is the state of consciousness of > the > > Sage.... > > > > Confession of the Jnani > > by Robert Adams > > > > For the Jnani who has realized the identity > > of his inner being > > with the Infinite Brahman, > > there is no rebirth, no migration and no liberation. > > He is beyond all this. > > He is firmly established in his own Absolute, > > Existence-Knowledge-Bliss true nature. > > > > The further ewxistence of his body and the world > > appears to the Jnani as an illusion > > which he cannot remove, > > but which no longer deceives him. > > > > After the death of this body, as in life, > > he remains where and what he eternally is, > > the first principle of all beings and things: > > formless, nameless, unsoiled, timeless, dimensionless > > and utterly free. > > > > Death cannot touch him, cravings cannot torture him; he is free > from all > > desire and suffering. > > He sees the Infinite Self in all, and all in the Infinite Self, > > which is his Being. > > > > The Jnani confesses his experience thus: > > > > I am infinite, imperishable, self-luminous, self- existent. > > I am without beginning or end. > > I am birthless, deathless, without change or decay. > > I pemeate and interpenetrate all things. > > In the myriad universes of thought and creation, > > > > I ALONE AM. > > > > > > > > > > - > > " yacobyisrael " <yacobyisrael> > > <Nisargadatta > > > Monday, November 24, 2003 10:52 AM > > Samadhi of Niz and UG > > > > > > > Greetings Everyone, > > > I have read that both Niz and UG said that they are in a permanent > > > state of Samadhi. Is this permanent Samadhi of the same essence > as > > > the momentary Samadhi achieved by meditation, only just a constant > > > state? What I find a bit of a contradiction on UG's part is that > he > > > says Samadhi is just a state that is conjured up by the mind, yet > he > > > claims to be in a permanent Samadhi. Are there different > qualities of > > > Samadhi? > > > > > > Yeah, I know I should be sitting on the beach here on a perfectly > > > sunny day here in Florida... but you guys, to me, are more > enjoyable > > > at the present moment. Pete, I ask myself the question you asked > a > > > few days ago.... what the hell is wrong with me, man?? > > > > > > Enjoying you all, > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> wrote: > Oh no, Jess -- we've resorted to throwing quotes at each other, now, > have we? > > There are probably five million quotes you can come up with > promoting some kind of absolute permanent state, many > of them derived from Hindu thought, like the quote > below. > > If you look harder though, you can find at least a whole lot > that say there is no permanent state, and which look into > the kind of grasping involved in claiming or going after > one. In fact, this is the raison d'etre for Gautama's > (at that time and place) revolutionary way of teaching. > > But, obviously, there is no permanence in a quote. > > One day, not only will the individual who made that claim > for himself or herself be dead, but the entire culture > that supported that language and thought will be gone, > that planet will be defunct, and that solar system no > more. > > So, rather than throwing quotes about permanent samadhis > or satoris, I'd > much rather hear from you, Jessica, what it's like > for you to be there. > > Clearly a second-hand report is very unreliable, and certainly > is also a transient phenomenon. > > -- Dan and her quote doesn't state permanent samadhi, i insist, read below > > > Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- > ondre@c...> wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > > > permanent samadhi/sahaja samadhi is the state of consciousness of > the > > Sage.... > > > > Confession of the Jnani > > by Robert Adams > > > > For the Jnani who has realized the identity > > of his inner being > > with the Infinite Brahman, > > there is no rebirth, no migration and no liberation. > > He is beyond all this. > > He is firmly established in his own Absolute, > > Existence-Knowledge-Bliss true nature. > > > > The further ewxistence of his body and the world > > appears to the Jnani as an illusion > > which he cannot remove, > > but which no longer deceives him. > > > > After the death of this body, as in life, > > he remains where and what he eternally is, > > the first principle of all beings and things: > > formless, nameless, unsoiled, timeless, dimensionless > > and utterly free. > > > > Death cannot touch him, cravings cannot torture him; he is free > from all > > desire and suffering. > > He sees the Infinite Self in all, and all in the Infinite Self, > > which is his Being. > > > > The Jnani confesses his experience thus: > > > > I am infinite, imperishable, self-luminous, self- existent. > > I am without beginning or end. > > I am birthless, deathless, without change or decay. > > I pemeate and interpenetrate all things. > > In the myriad universes of thought and creation, > > > > I ALONE AM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- ondre@c...> wrote: > Hi Dan, > LOL! you obviously never met Robert! > > my computer says 2:16. I have to leave here for work at 2:30 BUT IN THE > WORDS of our beloved NEW GOVERNOR, > " I'LL BE BACK! " > > smooch, hugs, XXXXXXOOOOOX > ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((dan)))))))))))))))))))))))) ( shithead!!!!) : ) > > just a poppyseed in the universe, > jess > funny thing people have always wonderful absent people to throw to your face... being present is a sin, how discontent i am to be here and me and not there and that gorgeous dude, i bet his erection is harder than mine... serenity noooooooooowwww!!!!! eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien " <vertvetiver@a...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- > ondre@c...> wrote: > > Hi Dan, > > LOL! you obviously never met Robert! > > > > my computer says 2:16. I have to leave here for work at 2:30 BUT IN > THE > > WORDS of our beloved NEW GOVERNOR, > > " I'LL BE BACK! " > > > > smooch, hugs, XXXXXXOOOOOX > > ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((dan)))))))))))))))))))))))) ( > shithead!!!!) : ) > > > > just a poppyseed in the universe, > > jess > > > > funny thing people have always wonderful absent people to throw to > your face... > being present is a sin, how discontent i am to be here and me and not > there and that gorgeous dude, i bet his erection is harder than > mine... > serenity noooooooooowwww!!!!! > eric oops sorry, misspell here i meant, i bet his illumination is higher than mine... (but i'm sure all got it right the first time) (gee what a goofball) eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- ondre@c...> wrote: > Hi Dan, > LOL! you obviously never met Robert! > > my computer says 2:16. I have to leave here for work at 2:30 BUT IN THE > WORDS of our beloved NEW GOVERNOR, > " I'LL BE BACK! " > > smooch, hugs, XXXXXXOOOOOX > ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((dan)))))))))))))))))))))))) ( shithead!!!!) : ) > > just a poppyseed in the universe, > jess Sure, Jess. To meet Robert is to know something that never changes. Sheesh! Don't worry, though, 99.9% of what passes for spirituality is just greed, anxiety, and wishful thinking dressed up nice and pretty. So, for this, we can give Adi Da some credit, that he wasn't able to dress it up so well that no one saw through his negligee. Omigod! He's just as screwed up as everyone else! This is where the search for some kind of permanent state leads folks. To ceaseless finding and disillusionment, finding and disillusionment. The strangest is when they get so addicted to finding, that they try to avoid any disillusionment. Oh well. Life goes on. Say hi to Robert for me. Smooches, hugs, and frolicking shitheads to you, too! -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- ondre@c...> wrote: > Well Guys, ( Dan and Eric) > > I just got home from work to all of your wonderful messages for me. I'm so > honored! > > Funny how I use one little word ( shhh! permanent) because I knew what Steve > was referring to when he said, " Greetings Everyone, > I have read that both Niz and UG said that they are in a permanent state of > Samadhi. Is this permanent Samadhi.... " snip > > > Jess con't: > and you guys go berserko! LOL! > > I'll be sure to flog myself before going to bed tonight and then tuck myself > in... IN MY HAIR SHIRT and pray for forgiveness! ( for forgetting to split > hairs over this). > > See Koohaj! u're not the only one who gets their ass chewed here! > > MALE DOMINANCE AND TESTOSTERONE RULES! YEAH! > > Geez! > OK OK! I'll try to be a good girl for you'all. Great way to evade the issue, Jess. No, this isn't something personal about you, nor is it anything to do with testerone. It's just seeing what's going on, what's so, and what isn't. If you want to know what's so, that's one thing. If you want to play games, and talk about hair shirts, and have fun with repartee in an e-group -- no problem, you and about ten million other people. One who is drawn to truth, finds that truth strips away everything that is not of truth. This is so for males, females, good girls, bad girls. None of that stuff is relevant. You can't help yourself when your time comes, anymore than an apple can help falling from a tree. Everything is a matter of timing. And no -- this isn't about you, nor is it about you using the wrong word. Truth has nothing to do with you in fact. You'll find you have no place " here " , nor I. Nothing has any place here -- that's why everything is included " as is. " And that's why there's no need or even possibility to be in a special state, or know you are some unchangeable being in all your glory. -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- ondre@c...> wrote: > It never ceases to amaze or amuse me, how you can take the words Niz and the > likes and put your own spin on them as if that's somehow better. > > Peace dude and enjoy your never-ending waxing on. > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ No, Jess. It's not about amusing you and amazing you with how I can spin words and be better. That's not what I'm doing here. And the truth is not all about keeping Jessica amused -- far from it, in fact. -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 > Great way to evade the issue, Jess. What issue is that Dan? if what you've said below is what you regard the issue, then I have a question for you. why do you feel the need to lecture me? > No, this isn't something personal about you, nor > is it anything to do with testerone. > > It's just seeing what's going on, what's so, > and what isn't. > > If you want to know what's so, that's one thing. > > If you want to play games, and talk about hair shirts, > and have fun with repartee in an e-group -- no problem, > you and about ten million other people. > > One who is drawn to truth, finds that truth strips away > everything that is not of truth. This is so for males, > females, good girls, bad girls. None of that stuff is > relevant. > > You can't help yourself when your time comes, anymore > than an apple can help falling from a tree. > > Everything is a matter of timing. > > And no -- this isn't about you, nor is it about you using > the wrong word. > > Truth has nothing to do with you in fact. > > You'll find you have no place " here " , nor I. > > Nothing has any place here -- that's why everything > is included " as is. " > > And that's why there's no need or even > possibility to be in a special state, > or know you are some unchangeable being > in all your glory. -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- ondre@c...> wrote: > > Great way to evade the issue, Jess. > > What issue is that Dan? > if what you've said below is what you regard the issue, then I have a > question for you. > > why do you feel the need to lecture me? ******** You got a nasty chip on your shoulder my friend, I suggest you see to THAT! Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- ondre@c...> wrote: > > Great way to evade the issue, Jess. > > What issue is that Dan? The issue we were discussing at the moment I said that, Jess. > if what you've said below is what you regard the issue, then I have a > question for you. > > why do you feel the need to lecture me? I don't. -- Dan > > No, this isn't something personal about you, nor > > is it anything to do with testerone. > > > > It's just seeing what's going on, what's so, > > and what isn't. > > > > > If you want to know what's so, that's one thing. > > > > If you want to play games, and talk about hair shirts, > > and have fun with repartee in an e-group -- no problem, > > you and about ten million other people. > > > > One who is drawn to truth, finds that truth strips away > > everything that is not of truth. This is so for males, > > females, good girls, bad girls. None of that stuff is > > relevant. > > > > You can't help yourself when your time comes, anymore > > than an apple can help falling from a tree. > > > > Everything is a matter of timing. > > > > And no -- this isn't about you, nor is it about you using > > the wrong word. > > > > Truth has nothing to do with you in fact. > > > > You'll find you have no place " here " , nor I. > > > > Nothing has any place here -- that's why everything > > is included " as is. " > > > > And that's why there's no need or even > > possibility to be in a special state, > > or know you are some unchangeable being > > in all your glory. > > -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 > Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- > ondre@c...> wrote: > > > Great way to evade the issue, Jess. > > > > What issue is that Dan? > > The issue we were discussing at the moment I said that, Jess. I don't recall us discussing any issue. I recall that I posted to Steve and granted.....could have expressed myself more clearly... could have said, " what i think you are referring to as pemanent samadhi, is referred to as sahaja samadhi " and then posted what Robert wrote and next thing I know you're accusing me of " throwing quotes " about permanent samadhis...reminded me of the early days on Net of Jewels...going for the jugular! which happens to be why Manuel eventually changed to no membership posting, because it was getting so nasty. I had to go to work Dan and jokingly told you I'd be back.....seems you didn't like my humor.....but you're sounding more and more like Judi these days. Sure, Jess. To meet Robert is to know something that never changes. Sheesh! Don't worry, though, 99.9% of what passes for spirituality is just greed, anxiety, and wishful thinking dressed up nice and pretty. So, for this, we can give Adi Da some credit, that he wasn't able to dress it up so well that no one saw through his negligee. Omigod! He's just as screwed up as everyone else! This is where the search for some kind of permanent state leads folks. To ceaseless finding and disillusionment, finding and disillusionment. The strangest is when they get so addicted to finding, that they try to avoid any disillusionment. Oh well. Life goes on. Say hi to Robert for me. Smooches, hugs, and frolicking shitheads to you, too! -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- ondre@c...> wrote: > >> > I had to go to work Dan and jokingly told you I'd be back.....seems you > didn't like my humor.....but you're sounding more and more like Judi these > days. > > ********* Translation: You also see through my pathetic game of just looking for attention and that I have no interest into inquirying into myself and what THAT is all about. Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 ROFLMAO! - " judirhodes " <judirhodes <Nisargadatta > Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:44 AM Re: Samadhi of Jessica > Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- > ondre@c...> wrote: > > > >> > > I had to go to work Dan and jokingly told you I'd be back.....seems > you > > didn't like my humor.....but you're sounding more and more like > Judi these > > days. > > > > > ********* Translation: You also see through my pathetic game of just > looking for attention and that I have no interest into inquirying > into myself and what THAT is all about. > > Judi > > > > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- ondre@c...> wrote: > LOL! God I love self-appointed gurus! > > As my grandmother once said, " they're more to be pitied than censored! " > ********* Having to look at the likes of you, you should pity me! Judi > - > " judirhodes " <judirhodes@z...> > > > > ****** You think we just fell off some turnip truck? Like we don't > > know your game inside and out? Think again! > > > > Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 LOL! God I love self-appointed gurus! As my grandmother once said, " they're more to be pitied than censored! " - " judirhodes " <judirhodes > > ****** You think we just fell off some turnip truck? Like we don't > know your game inside and out? Think again! > > Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- ondre@c...> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- > > ondre@c...> wrote: > > > > Great way to evade the issue, Jess. > > > > > > What issue is that Dan? > > > > The issue we were discussing at the moment I said that, Jess. > > I don't recall us discussing any issue. You haven't dropped this yet, Jess? It seems like old news already to me. > I recall that I posted to Steve and > granted.....could have expressed myself more clearly... could have said, " > what i think you are referring to as pemanent samadhi, is referred to as > sahaja samadhi " Sahaja means natural, doesn't it? As in uncontrived? > and then posted what Robert wrote and next thing I know > you're accusing me of " throwing quotes " about permanent samadhis... I didn't know that was an accusation. Is throwing quotes against the law? I saw a show that suggested bowling with dwarves should be made illegal. Okay, I unaccuse you, if that helps. > reminded > me of the early days on Net of Jewels...going for the jugular! If that's all it takes to get your jugular, I hope you carry a lot of band-aids with you. So, you threw a quote. So what? Life goes on. > which happens > to be why Manuel eventually changed to no membership posting, because it was > getting so nasty. Do you really want to go into this? Does it matter to you? It doesn't to me. Maybe you can talk to Manuel about it? > I had to go to work Dan and jokingly told you I'd be back.....seems you > didn't like my humor..... Why not? I thought I did. but you're sounding more and more like Judi these > days. Now, that's funny. As if. You sound upset by our exchange. But, how does this little exchange compare with losing the entire set of identities and associations that formed me, my experiences, and my world? Nice-sounding quotes and happy, beaming teachers are great. But what happens when the void comes knock, knock, knocking, asking for everything you have taken as you and your sense of reality? Hello, candy-gram :-) -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Nisargadatta , " judirhodes " <judirhodes@z...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- > ondre@c...> wrote: > > > >> > > I had to go to work Dan and jokingly told you I'd be back.....seems > you > > didn't like my humor.....but you're sounding more and more like > Judi these > > days. > > > > > ********* Translation: You also see through my pathetic game of just > looking for attention and that I have no interest into inquirying > into myself and what THAT is all about. > > Judi Well, I'm not sure she meant it as a compliment, but who knows? As if I could ever ... Sometimes, Judi, I notice some interesting synchronicities, where I respond to something and then see later you responded similarly. It happened again earlier today, when I responded to Joe that his " fine " commentary was just after-the-fact stuff, and then saw that you had said something very similar. We often have similar " reads " on things, although we may express it differently, and go about things pretty differently. Speaking as convincingly like Judi as possible, Sheesh, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 > > You sound upset by our exchange. I'm not upset by our exchange, just astonished! the Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde of Advaita... Clear and insightful one time, and slippery as a snake when it comes to being honest the next! you're a psychologist too! wow! lol! spinning words to your advantage. Interesting! > But, how does this little exchange compare with > losing the entire set of identities and associations > that formed me, my experiences, and my world? > > Nice-sounding quotes and happy, beaming teachers are > great. > > But what happens when the void comes knock, knock, knocking, > asking for everything you have taken as you and your > sense of reality? That's the whole point of my bothering to write to you...Dan. You haven't a friggin clue where I've been, what I've been through...and who gives a shit! but as I told Judi, " Oh God, how I love self-appointed gurus! " > > Hello, candy-gram :-) > > -- Dan Hello Sri Rumpoche! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- ondre@c...> wrote: > > > > -- Dan > > Hello Sri Rumpoche! :-) If he's sri rum-poche, I want to be sri bourbon-poche! ;-) Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 > > > I had to go to work Dan and jokingly told you I'd be > back.....seems > > you > > > didn't like my humor.....but you're sounding more and more like > > Judi these > > > days. > > > > > > > > ********* Translation: You also see through my pathetic game of > just > > looking for attention and that I have no interest into inquirying > > into myself and what THAT is all about. > > > > Judi > > Well, I'm not sure she meant it as a compliment, > but who knows? > > As if I could ever ... > > Sometimes, Judi, I notice some interesting > synchronicities, where I respond > to something and then see later you > responded similarly. > > It happened again earlier today, when I > responded to Joe that his " fine " commentary > was just after-the-fact stuff, and > then saw that you had said something > very similar. > > We often have similar " reads " on things, > although we may express it differently, and > go about things pretty differently. > > Speaking as convincingly like Judi as possible, > Sheesh, > Dan I heard you Dan sheesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- ondre@c...> wrote: > > >> > but as I told Judi, " Oh God, how I love self-appointed gurus! " > > ****** Where do you get this " guru " shit? On a power trip are you? Hmm, I wonder what THAT is all about? Here's a clue - power trips are for " losers " . Jessica's a loser, nothing but a loser. Period, end of story! Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Nisargadatta , " Era " <satkarta7@j...> wrote: > > > > I had to go to work Dan and jokingly told you I'd be > > back.....seems > > > you > > > > didn't like my humor.....but you're sounding more and more like > > > Judi these > > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > > ********* Translation: You also see through my pathetic game of > > just > > > looking for attention and that I have no interest into inquirying > > > into myself and what THAT is all about. > > > > > > Judi > > > > Well, I'm not sure she meant it as a compliment, > > but who knows? > > > > As if I could ever ... > > > > Sometimes, Judi, I notice some interesting > > synchronicities, where I respond > > to something and then see later you > > responded similarly. > > > > It happened again earlier today, when I > > responded to Joe that his " fine " commentary > > was just after-the-fact stuff, and > > then saw that you had said something > > very similar. > > > > We often have similar " reads " on things, > > although we may express it differently, and > > go about things pretty differently. > > > > Speaking as convincingly like Judi as possible, > > Sheesh, > > Dan > > > I heard you Dan > > sheesh ********* And another " loser " heard from! Bunch of " losers " if I ever saw! Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 ROFLMAO! Hey Judi, did you ever hear this one??? " Row Row Row your boat gently down the stream...but do forget... don't look in the mirror yet! ...cuz then u're gonna scream " " ROFLMAO! XX0000X - " judirhodes " <judirhodes <Nisargadatta > Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:59 PM Re: Samadhi of Jessica > Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- > ondre@c...> wrote: > > > > >> > > but as I told Judi, " Oh God, how I love self-appointed gurus! " > > > > > ****** Where do you get this " guru " shit? On a power trip are you? > > Hmm, I wonder what THAT is all about? > > Here's a clue - power trips are for " losers " . > > Jessica's a loser, nothing but a loser. > > Period, end of story! > > Judi ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- ondre@c...> wrote: > ROFLMAO! > > Hey Judi, did you ever hear this one??? > > " Row Row Row your boat gently down the stream...but do forget... > don't look in the mirror yet! ...cuz then u're gonna scream " " > > ROFLMAO! > XX0000X ****** You're the one doing the screaming, you prove my point, " loser " . Judi > - > " judirhodes " <judirhodes@z...> > <Nisargadatta > > Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:59 PM > Re: Samadhi of Jessica > > > > Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam- > > ondre@c...> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > but as I told Judi, " Oh God, how I love self-appointed gurus! " > > > > > > > > ****** Where do you get this " guru " shit? On a power trip are you? > > > > Hmm, I wonder what THAT is all about? > > > > Here's a clue - power trips are for " losers " . > > > > Jessica's a loser, nothing but a loser. > > > > Period, end of story! > > > > Judi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta > group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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