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Nisargadatta , " judirhodes " <judirhodes@z...>

wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam-

> ondre@c...> wrote:

> > Now that's the Judi, all of us, who have been in these groups for

a

> long

> > time, know and love!

> >

> > XXXOOOOOX

>

> ********* You think I'm kidding? You will get exactly what you

> deserve. Karma's a bitch!

>

> Judi

 

No, I know you're not kidding.

 

There's only one urgent question, it's

a matter of life and death, the question

of what's keeping this loop of my experience,

my reality, going? Loop aka " karma " -- what

keeps a so-called " personal reality " going.

 

Even on these nondual lists, so few are really looking

into it with the urgency and sincerity it deserves.

 

Stock answers seem to be enough -- there is no one to

look into it, just accept it - it will die out on

its own, and so on.

 

Although there's no one there, the attempt to

be a someone there having experiences and knowledge

indeed effects reality -- not by making it yours,

but by distorting perception and relationship

in an ongoing way, called " 'karma' going 'round and coming

'round. "

 

So, the attempt is quite worthwhile to address --

not avoid. It is having repercussions in/as

" awareness mistaking itself as an identity. "

 

Bob Dylan had it right: the hour is getting late.

 

-- Dan

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033>

wrote:

 

> No, I know you're not kidding.

>

> There's only one urgent question, it's

> a matter of life and death, the question

> of what's keeping this loop of my experience,

> my reality, going? Loop aka " karma " -- what

> keeps a so-called " personal reality " going.

>

> Even on these nondual lists, so few are really looking

> into it with the urgency and sincerity it deserves.

>

> Stock answers seem to be enough -- there is no one to

> look into it, just accept it - it will die out on

> its own, and so on.

>

> Although there's no one there, the attempt to

> be a someone there having experiences and knowledge

> indeed effects reality -- not by making it yours,

> but by distorting perception and relationship

> in an ongoing way, called " 'karma' going 'round and coming

> 'round. "

>

> So, the attempt is quite worthwhile to address --

> not avoid. It is having repercussions in/as

> " awareness mistaking itself as an identity. "

>

> Bob Dylan had it right: the hour is getting late.

>

> -- Dan

 

Hey Dan,

 

Cool that you're stressing the urgency of this inquiry toward finding

out what is really the case. This needs to be emphasized more, it

seems to me.

 

Joe

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Nisargadatta , " josesiem " <josesiem> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033>

> >

> > Although there's no one there, the attempt to

> > be a someone there having experiences and knowledge

> > indeed effects reality -- not by making it yours,

> > but by distorting perception and relationship

> > in an ongoing way, called " 'karma' going 'round and coming

> > 'round. "

> >

> > So, the attempt is quite worthwhile to address --

> > not avoid. It is having repercussions in/as

> > " awareness mistaking itself as an identity. "

> >

> > Bob Dylan had it right: the hour is getting late.

> >

> > -- Dan

>

> Hey Dan,

>

> Cool that you're stressing the urgency of this inquiry toward

finding

> out what is really the case. This needs to be emphasized more, it

> seems to me.

>

> Joe

 

It's easy to just pick up a book and look for some teacher's words of

comfort and hope someday that I will be like them, rather than

sitting with direct experience of the tension and suffering as it is

right now, and the world of worry being spun by the mind revolving

around " my life " .

 

All of these " problems " -- pure imagination. Yet the suffering is

real.

 

Joe

 

PS: I remember that time I wrote:

I want to wake up from the story of my life.

 

You asked a great question:

Then where will you be?

 

It was/is a good koan.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033>

wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " judirhodes " <judirhodes@z...>

> wrote:

> > Nisargadatta , " Jessica White " <ellam-

> > ondre@c...> wrote:

> > > Now that's the Judi, all of us, who have been in these groups

for

> a

> > long

> > > time, know and love!

> > >

> > > XXXOOOOOX

> >

> > ********* You think I'm kidding? You will get exactly what you

> > deserve. Karma's a bitch!

> >

> > Judi

>

> No, I know you're not kidding.

>

> There's only one urgent question, it's

> a matter of life and death, the question

> of what's keeping this loop of my experience,

> my reality, going? Loop aka " karma " -- what

> keeps a so-called " personal reality " going.

>

> Even on these nondual lists, so few are really looking

> into it with the urgency and sincerity it deserves.

>

> Stock answers seem to be enough -- there is no one to

> look into it, just accept it - it will die out on

> its own, and so on.

>

> Although there's no one there, the attempt to

> be a someone there having experiences and knowledge

> indeed effects reality -- not by making it yours,

> but by distorting perception and relationship

> in an ongoing way, called " 'karma' going 'round and coming

> 'round. "

>

> So, the attempt is quite worthwhile to address --

> not avoid. It is having repercussions in/as

> " awareness mistaking itself as an identity. "

>

> Bob Dylan had it right: the hour is getting late.

>

> -- Dan

 

********* Yes, if they only knew. Life is such a magnificent gift and

in their greed, they miss.

 

Judi

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