Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Greetings, I have just read an account of a man named Osho wherein he was jailed and mistreated for many days fined $400,000, and deported from the US back in '95 for apparently nothing. Is this common treatment for teachers of Eastern philosophy? I can not understand why all the bother, especially these types of teachings. What has become of this man? Curious, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Hi Steve, Goto Google, type in " Osho " and click search. Werner Nisargadatta , " yacobyisrael " <yacobyisrael> wrote: > Greetings, > I have just read an account of a man named Osho wherein he was > jailed and mistreated for many days fined $400,000, and deported > from the US back in '95 for apparently nothing. Is this common > treatment for teachers of Eastern philosophy? I can not understand > why all the bother, especially these types of teachings. What has > become of this man? > > Curious, > Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Hi Steve, > > Goto Google, type in " Osho " and click search. > > Werner Excellent suggestion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 - " yacobyisrael " <yacobyisrael <Nisargadatta > Thursday, December 04, 2003 07:10 PM The OSHO treatment > Greetings, > I have just read an account of a man named Osho wherein he was > jailed and mistreated for many days fined $400,000, and deported > from the US back in '95 for apparently nothing. Is this common > treatment for teachers of Eastern philosophy? I can not understand > why all the bother, especially these types of teachings. What has > become of this man? He is dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Beloved Steve, what inspired your research in direction to Osho/Bhagwan? I am disciple of this Master since 2.2.1981 ( http://www.n0by.de/2/rst/22/22.htm ). But the man died on 19th January 1990. So his deportation from the U.S. must have happened the year 1985. As far I understood the basic teachings of Bhagwan/Osho, to take away the basic conditionings of his people. A mind free from bondage only will be able, to search for the real thing beyond conditioning, cultur, religion. Beyond language, words, wisdom. Beyond feel-good, beyond bad feelings. The process grows: people get free from mind-bondage, from illusions. Healing hurts, suffering kills. When youself feel attracted to religions and religious feelings, my site about Bhagwan can not be recommended. Maybe cyber-friends like Judy, Eric will feel some harmony with this site. For you all the best in your search. What is your reason to ask about Osho? http://www.n0by.de/2/rst/bhagwan.htm n0by with love http://n0by.de n0by/ > Nisargadatta , " yacobyisrael " > <yacobyisrael> wrote: > Greetings, > I have just read an account of a man named Osho wherein he was > jailed and mistreated for many days fined $400,000, and deported > from the US back in '95 for apparently nothing. Is this common > treatment for teachers of Eastern philosophy? I can not understand why > all the bother, especially these types of teachings. What has become > of this man? > > Curious, > Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 - n0by Nisargadatta Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:21 AM Re: The OSHO treatment When youself feel attracted to religions and religious feelings, my site about Bhagwan can not be recommended. Maybe cyber-friends like Judy, Eric will feel some harmony with this site. ********** Don't include me in that horseshit! Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Hello n0by, I saw a quote of Osho in a " questioning the legality of driver's licence " forum. Steve Nisargadatta , " n0by " <n0by@n...> wrote: > Beloved Steve, > > what inspired your research in direction to Osho/Bhagwan? I am disciple of > this Master since 2.2.1981 ( http://www.n0by.de/2/rst/22/22.htm ). But the > man died on 19th January 1990. So his deportation from the U.S. must have > happened the year 1985. > > As far I understood the basic teachings of Bhagwan/Osho, to take away the > basic conditionings of his people. A mind free from bondage only will be > able, to search for the real thing beyond conditioning, cultur, religion. > > Beyond language, words, wisdom. Beyond feel-good, beyond bad feelings. > > The process grows: people get free from mind-bondage, from illusions. > Healing hurts, suffering kills. > > When youself feel attracted to religions and religious feelings, my site > about Bhagwan can not be recommended. Maybe cyber-friends like Judy, Eric > will feel some harmony with this site. For you all the best in your > search. What is your reason to ask about Osho? > > http://www.n0by.de/2/rst/bhagwan.htm > > > n0by > > > with love > > > http://n0by.de > > n0by/ > > > Nisargadatta , " yacobyisrael " > > <yacobyisrael> wrote: > > Greetings, > > I have just read an account of a man named Osho wherein he was > > jailed and mistreated for many days fined $400,000, and deported > > from the US back in '95 for apparently nothing. Is this common > > treatment for teachers of Eastern philosophy? I can not understand why > > all the bother, especially these types of teachings. What has become > > of this man? > > > > Curious, > > Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Nisargadatta , Sandeep <sandeepc@b...> wrote: > > - > " yacobyisrael " <yacobyisrael> > <Nisargadatta > > Thursday, December 04, 2003 07:10 PM > The OSHO treatment > > > > Greetings, > > I have just read an account of a man named Osho wherein he was > > jailed and mistreated for many days fined $400,000, and deported > > from the US back in '95 for apparently nothing. Is this common > > treatment for teachers of Eastern philosophy? I can not understand > > why all the bother, especially these types of teachings. What has > > become of this man? > > > > He is dead. MOST OF US ALTHOUGH NOT COMPLETELY DEAD, COULD HARDLY PROVE OTHERWISE... WISE? now what are the symptoms of regular life? " get out of my sunlight! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Well Osho had a big commune in eastern Oregon(I live in Oregon) and his followers tried to poison a bunch of townspeople , rig the local elections, and assasinate the local prosecutor. I forget all the exact details but it was something to that effect. Eastern Oregon is pretty barren, mainly cattle ranchers and Indian reservations. Local people were not thrilled with the enormous sudden influx of all the young people who were looking for spiritual enlightenment and thought that communal living(not to mention communal sex) was one way to get there. Osho was pretty debilitated by this point, I think he was into drugs and his brain seemed to have rotted. His teachings might be great but the community around him was a disaster. It is possible to have exalted teachings but a corrupt personal life. It happens to a lot of teachers. I assure you this does not happen to teachers of Eastern philosophy in the US. There are probably hundreds or thousands of these teachers living and teaching peacefully in the US. Mir yacobyisrael <yacobyisrael wrote: Greetings, I have just read an account of a man named Osho wherein he was jailed and mistreated for many days fined $400,000, and deported from the US back in '95 for apparently nothing. Is this common treatment for teachers of Eastern philosophy? I can not understand why all the bother, especially these types of teachings. What has become of this man? Curious, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 Beloved Readers, when you go back again to the message Nisargadatta/message/10518 you'll find out, that the Bhagwan-Osho's ''taste of fascism'' on the Ranch in Rajneeshpuram had not only blind believing brain bordered customers. There have been some, who tried to resist that regime. I was one of them. My beloved dead old dad Daddy could not stand in his life the tyrant Hitler, because he was tyrant enough on his own: http://www.n0by.de/2/a2z/german_generations.htm So Bhagwan-Osho let play his devoted disciples the way, people love to play. And what love people most? Power? Sex? Money? Pressure? Prestige? Violence? Greed? Gain? Pesting? Preaching? Rantings? Humilations? ENLIGHTENMENT? SELF-REALISATION? Yes, dear Readers, you got there a full overload of human garbage with the Master. When the Master is dead, only the garbage is left: Like Judy, Eric, n0by - the 4-letter-word-energies? Now, thousands of thousands of teachers mix better behaviour with some spices of Sweet Jesus, Ramana, Nisargatta, 1.000 of 1.000 of teachers worldwide, to satisfy the desire. The desire, the gain, greed for all our sickness, our global sickness: Power? Sex? Money? Pressure? Prestige? Violence? Greed? Gain? Pesting? Preaching? Rantings? Humilations? ENLIGHTENMENT? SELF-REALISATION? And most of these teachers, preachers hide behind fences, cut of the free flow of expression, castrate freedom of speech, but never ever have left for one second their goal behind! Which goal? Power? Sex? Money? Pressure? Prestige? Violence? Greed? Gain? Pesting? Preaching? Rantings? Humilations? ENLIGHTENMENT? SELF-REALISATION? For me personally Osho-Bhagwan gave me exact the treatment, I was longing for in all my hidden and open desires, in all my humanness for that, what I'm designed to get by the love of my beloved dead Daddy, my Country and his history and what do I want? What do we want? What do you want? Power? Sex? Money? Pressure? Prestige? Violence? Greed? Gain? Pesting? Preaching? Rantings? Humilations? ENLIGHTENMENT? SELF-REALISATION? Now, go to listen to these Guru-Guys behind bars, close yourself with these cult-customers in censored churches! Suck from slimy Satsangha Slobber with best behaviour! Get, what you are longing for! Ahh... what are you longing for? Power? Sex? Money? Pressure? Prestige? Violence? Greed? Gain? Pesting? Preaching? Rantings? Humilations? ENLIGHTENMENT? SELF-REALISATION? Now, wonna more? Send e-mail only: n0by- There meet the ones, to fulfill your desires! Deep down in the heart of mankind from the stone-age till the climate catastrophies, from the arm to hit to atomic bomb to blast of our beautiful world, to burn our BS-brain symtomps like these: Power? Sex? Money? Pressure? Prestige? Violence? Greed? Gain? Pesting? Preaching? Rantings? Humilations? ENLIGHTENMENT? SELF-REALISATION? yours n0by with love http://n0by.de n0by/ > Nisargadatta , miriam reinhart > <acertriflorum> wrote: > Well Osho had a big commune in eastern Oregon(I live in Oregon) and his > followers tried to poison a bunch of townspeople , rig the local > elections, and assasinate the local prosecutor. I forget all the > exact details but it was something to that effect. Eastern Oregon is > pretty barren, mainly cattle ranchers and Indian reservations. Local > people were not thrilled with the enormous sudden influx of all the > young people who were looking for spiritual enlightenment and thought > that communal living(not to mention communal sex) was one way to get > there. Osho was pretty debilitated by this point, I think he was into > drugs and his brain seemed to have rotted. His teachings might be great > but the community around him was a disaster. It is possible to have > exalted teachings but a corrupt personal life. It happens to a lot of > teachers. > > I assure you this does not happen to teachers of Eastern philosophy in > the US. There are probably hundreds or thousands of these teachers > living and teaching peacefully in the US. > Mir > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 Mir there is probably a lot of truth and common sense in what you say, i read a book by one of his bodyguards and it was not very clean, .... i wonder if n0by could tell us if Osho had a " corrupted " life, he didn't seem to have sex for example (?) erix Nisargadatta , miriam reinhart <acertriflorum> wrote: > Well Osho had a big commune in eastern Oregon(I live in Oregon) and his followers tried to poison a bunch of townspeople , rig the local elections, and assasinate the local prosecutor. I forget all the exact details but it was something to that effect. Eastern Oregon is pretty barren, mainly cattle ranchers and Indian reservations. Local people were not thrilled with the enormous sudden influx of all the young people who were looking for spiritual enlightenment and thought that communal living(not to mention communal sex) was one way to get there. Osho was pretty debilitated by this point, I think he was into drugs and his brain seemed to have rotted. His teachings might be great but the community around him was a disaster. It is possible to have exalted teachings but a corrupt personal life. It happens to a lot of teachers. > > I assure you this does not happen to teachers of Eastern philosophy in the US. There are probably hundreds or thousands of these teachers living and teaching peacefully in the US. > Mir > > yacobyisrael <yacobyisrael> wrote: > Greetings, > I have just read an account of a man named Osho wherein he was > jailed and mistreated for many days fined $400,000, and deported > from the US back in '95 for apparently nothing. Is this common > treatment for teachers of Eastern philosophy? I can not understand > why all the bother, especially these types of teachings. What has > become of this man? > > Curious, > Steve > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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