Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 Wry you're adorable but i tell you i have a problem, i am not a native english reader so i am very slow, i will read all your messages the first ten lines but not beyond, if you don't mind, so in case you have something concerning me please have it in the first 10, ok Wry? i'm happy you stayed :-) erix Nisargadatta , " wry " <wry1111@e...> wrote: > Hi. Personally I find her (Judi) sort of refreshing. She is a first class grease cutter in an internet world or slick and slip. Of course, if one continuously cuts grease over and over, the very act of grease cutting loses its grip, becoming grease in itself--just more slip. But on this list, at least, she does not seem to be doing that. She seems to do it for a day or two every now and then, on rare occasion, actually, and then stop and cut in every once in a while for reinforcement, which is similar to how I myself might cut grease, though I am more wordy, as it is not my aim to free others from conceptual thought alone, If I could even do so, which is highly questionable, but to also participate in the development of the reasoning capability of myself and others to a grade that is a little bit more objective. I do not know if it has occurred to anyone on this list, but when a person's mind is not confused, when there is a cleared field, so to speak, that is when the sowing begins. There is a whole new set of operations to perform. It is when people attempt to sow seeds into an unprepared, a ground filled with weeds and rocks or whatever, that the fruit cannot be produced. > > In any case, I agree with you. This list became manic, but sometimes there is a flurry before a major transition. All the little creatures of nature start chattering back and forth to each other. You are the one who posted the material by Goswami. I know your motivation was good, but, in my opinion, posting this stuff out here is a hundred times worse than anything I have seen Judi say on this list, worse than the manic atmosphere, as this human being is an idealist who cannot think clearly, who leads other ignorant people further and further into the la la, the nether. This Goswami is no real scientist, as the way he reasons and handles material is on the level of an eleven year old. What he is saying, in effect, is that consciousness exists, sort of like an entity, independent of the perceiver, and he uses faulty logic to build up and support this premise. I understand that I am not giving any real evidence to support my opinion, and there is a reason for this. Plain and simple: my time is better spent elsewhere, as who really cares if a few more fools venture further and further into the nether. They are going to, with me or without me, and that is a fact. It is better for me to spend my time and energy writing this particular email, designed to cut a particular kind of grease, than getting lost in the gossamer spider-web maze of this one immature, though well intentioned human being's idealism. > > I do not know much about the purpose and intent of this list, but I believe it is supposedly to have something to do with realizing the non-dual nature of physical reality. Actually reality is, in one respect, dual. It always has and always will be, from the perspective of any human being, as this is the place of mating couples. But there are two aspects; conventional reality, which we perceive FALSELY as dual (due to the imperfect nature of our little thinkers) as existing externally to ourselves , existing independently, on its own side, so to speak, and ultimate reality, which is empty of inherent existence or meaning, i.e-selfless. When a person perceives the ultimate emptiness of conventional reality, he is able to think and do without becoming identified. I do not know Judi, but she is living a life and doing things, to help others, such as sending Christmas presents to the troops in Irag or whatever. If everything is of equal value, presumably she would not be doing this, as it would not be necessary to do anything. > > On this list, she was attacking one person, primarily, someone called Jessica. I did not read all of Jessica's material (maybe I will), so I am not sure why, but what I did glance at looked like some kind of la la, like a lot of the stuff on here. I did not get any real hate out of anything Judi said.. It is just words. Hate is what one feels inside one's own self, as has already been pointed out. It is sort of funny, but also sad. Poignant. People are STILL talking about Judi for one reason and one reason alone. Do not forget this: IT IS INTERESTING. Period. People talk about what is interesting to themselves, just as I am doing write now. Case in point. End of chapter. Goooo-by for now. Sincerely, Wry > - > Era > Nisargadatta > Friday, December 05, 2003 9:40 AM > Re: manic posting > > > Nisargadatta , " judirhodes " <judirhodes@z...> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Era " <satkarta7@j...> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " judirhodes " <judirhodes@z...> > > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Era " <satkarta7@j...> wrote: > > > > > until now, I thought that only devi > > > > > can drive a club into the ditch, or > > > > > the glowheads with the neverending > > > > > trumping shit like gangak, but observing > > > > > this forum I must add, that anybody > > > > > in a manic phase of posting and ping > > > > > pong small talk can do the same > > > > > > > > > > who can surf through all this nonsense? > > > > > > > > > > --where is Nisargadatta? > > > > > > > > ******* Still looking for somebody " else " to " save " you, eh? > > > > > > > > Some people just NEVER learn! > > > > > > > > Judi > > > > > > > > > no hun > > > > > > thats you > > > > > > as is always in our projected > > > > > > " universes " > > > > > > ******** You're the one asking for " Nisargadatta " , not me. > > > > > that was an ironic question > > since this is a Niz site > > > > > > And round and round you go! Never bothering to look into the why > > you're looking in the first place! > > > > Judi > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien " <vertvetiver> wrote: > Wry you're adorable but i tell you i have a problem, i am not a > native english reader so i am very slow, i will read all your > messages the first ten lines but not beyond, if you don't mind, so in > case you have something concerning me please have it in the first 10, > ok Wry? > i'm happy you stayed :-) > erix > Wry: Thank you erix. Your posts are chuck full of good spiritual advice. You are the wisest frog since Fenelon, and of course, you are right about me being too loquacious, but I love my own thoughts, and plan to keep them all, and repeat them as frecuently as I can. It's other people's thoughts that I hate because they are WRONG. They should get rid of them and learn to reason like me. Eric read carefully the following brilliant example of my reasoning: Blah, bla, Blah, yada, yada, da Blah, bla, dada yada blah, blah. Oh eric, I could go on for ever, my nipples glow hot with wisdom, but I'll spare your feeble brain. Ps Is it true, you Frenchmen, do disgusting things to woman with your tongues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien " > <vertvetiver> wrote: > > Wry you're adorable but i tell you i have a problem, i am not a > > native english reader so i am very slow, i will read all your > > messages the first ten lines but not beyond, if you don't mind, so > in > > case you have something concerning me please have it in the first > 10, > > ok Wry? > > i'm happy you stayed :-) > > erix > > > > Wry: Thank you erix. Your posts are chuck full of good spiritual > advice. You are the wisest frog since Fenelon, and of course, you are > right about me being too loquacious, but I love my own thoughts, and > plan to keep them all, and repeat them as frecuently as I can. It's > other people's thoughts that I hate because they are WRONG. They > should get rid of them and learn to reason like me. Eric read > carefully the following brilliant example of my reasoning: > > Blah, bla, Blah, yada, yada, da Blah, bla, dada yada blah, blah. > > Oh eric, I could go on for ever, my nipples glow hot with wisdom, but > I'll spare your feeble brain. > > Ps Is it true, you Frenchmen, do disgusting things to woman with your > tongues? pheww! what we do to them is nothing! you should see what they do to us with them long pointy wet sneaky tongue, them hot lewd french females! pheww! (next issue about contorsions) erix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien " <vertvetiver> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien " > > <vertvetiver> wrote: > > > Wry you're adorable but i tell you i have a problem, i am not a > > > native english reader so i am very slow, i will read all your > > > messages the first ten lines but not beyond, if you don't mind, > so > > in > > > case you have something concerning me please have it in the first > > 10, > > > ok Wry? > > > i'm happy you stayed :-) > > > erix > > > > > > > Wry: Thank you erix. Your posts are chuck full of good spiritual > > advice. You are the wisest frog since Fenelon, and of course, you > are > > right about me being too loquacious, but I love my own thoughts, and > > plan to keep them all, and repeat them as frecuently as I can. It's > > other people's thoughts that I hate because they are WRONG. They > > should get rid of them and learn to reason like me. Eric read > > carefully the following brilliant example of my reasoning: > > > > Blah, bla, Blah, yada, yada, da Blah, bla, dada yada blah, blah. > > > > Oh eric, I could go on for ever, my nipples glow hot with wisdom, > but > > I'll spare your feeble brain. > > > > Ps Is it true, you Frenchmen, do disgusting things to woman with > your > > tongues? > > pheww! > what we do to them is nothing! you should see what they do to us with > them long pointy wet sneaky tongue, them hot lewd french females! > pheww! > (next issue about contorsions) > erix ******** You guys are funny, couple of Buckwheats if I ever saw! :-) Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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