Guest guest Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 I received the following question at the Nisargadatta.net site. If there are any responses, I'll forward: Dear Advaita Person In the silence I allow awareness to focus on awareness...in the one,but I have a question. In the maya can be perceived the material,astral,causal,mental,and etheric worlds...soul/awareness being the only one that is truly real,but if the goal of an adavaita student is achieved can the student or master then make a choice and have the ability to enter into these planes at will which would be proof to oneself of being unlimited? This is a good question concerning being unlimited by still having choice of free will although one is aware of the self being one. Sincerely, John of Colonial Heights Va. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 Dear sandeep, Are you the famous sandeep chatterjee of the " my two bits anyway " fame? Just curious. Happy new year all. sandeepc [sandeepc] Thursday, January 01, 2004 11:13 AM Nisargadatta Re: A question received at the Nisargadatta.net Happy New year to all, - <hur <Nisargadatta > Thursday, January 01, 2004 07:41 AM A question received at the Nisargadatta.net > I received the following question at the Nisargadatta.net site. If > there are any responses, I'll forward: > > Dear Advaita Person > > In the silence I allow awareness to focus on awareness...in the > one, That awareness in which there is an " allowing " agency,.....is not awareness. >but I have a question. Not surprising. An " allowing " agency will always have a question. Awareness, being when there is nothing to be aware of,.......... and thus no one to be aware.............what questions can arise in awareness. > In the maya can be perceived the > material,astral,causal,mental,and etheric worlds...soul/awareness > being the only one that is truly real,but if the goal of an adavaita > student is achieved A true apperception of Advaita, is the end of all goals and ergo the cessation of the very seeking to achieve any goal. > can the student or master then make a choice and > have the ability to enter into these planes at will which would be > proof to oneself of being unlimited? In a gestalt of apperception,.........no difference remains with the material/astral/mental/etheric worlds,..........all such " worlds " seen to be projections of the conditioned mind, knowledgeable of such " worlds " . Whatever you see or experience is created, by the knowledge you have, of that which is being seen or experienced. Thus the material hoopla, the astral hoopla, the mental hoopla, the etheric hoopla. > This is a good question concerning being unlimited by still having choice of free will > although one is aware of the self being one. In a true apperception of Advaita,............. is the total irrelevance of terms like " limited " , " unlimited " , " destiny " , " free will " ,.... ....even the term of " ONE " is meaningless. For a true apperception of Advaita,..............is the end of the very concept of Advaita. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 Happy New year to all, - <hur <Nisargadatta > Thursday, January 01, 2004 07:41 AM A question received at the Nisargadatta.net > I received the following question at the Nisargadatta.net site. If > there are any responses, I'll forward: > > Dear Advaita Person > > In the silence I allow awareness to focus on awareness...in the > one, That awareness in which there is an " allowing " agency,.....is not awareness. >but I have a question. Not surprising. An " allowing " agency will always have a question. Awareness, being when there is nothing to be aware of,.......... and thus no one to be aware.............what questions can arise in awareness. > In the maya can be perceived the > material,astral,causal,mental,and etheric worlds...soul/awareness > being the only one that is truly real,but if the goal of an adavaita > student is achieved A true apperception of Advaita, is the end of all goals and ergo the cessation of the very seeking to achieve any goal. > can the student or master then make a choice and > have the ability to enter into these planes at will which would be > proof to oneself of being unlimited? In a gestalt of apperception,.........no difference remains with the material/astral/mental/etheric worlds,..........all such " worlds " seen to be projections of the conditioned mind, knowledgeable of such " worlds " . Whatever you see or experience is created, by the knowledge you have, of that which is being seen or experienced. Thus the material hoopla, the astral hoopla, the mental hoopla, the etheric hoopla. > This is a good question concerning being unlimited by still having choice of free will > although one is aware of the self being one. In a true apperception of Advaita,............. is the total irrelevance of terms like " limited " , " unlimited " , " destiny " , " free will " ,.... ....even the term of " ONE " is meaningless. For a true apperception of Advaita,..............is the end of the very concept of Advaita. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2004 Report Share Posted January 1, 2004 > Dear Advaita Person > > In the silence I allow awareness to focus on awareness...in the > one,but I have a question. In the maya can be perceived the > material,astral,causal,mental,and etheric worlds...soul/awareness > being the only one that is truly real,but if the goal of an adavaita > student is achieved can the student or master then make a choice and > have the ability to enter into these planes at will which would be > proof to oneself of being unlimited? This is a good question > concerning being unlimited by still having choice of free will > although one is aware of the self being one. > Sincerely, > John of Colonial Heights Va. All such concerns become dissolved. Freedom is the end of all concern, period. Note that all distinctions mentioned in this message are distractions. Material, astral, causal, maya, soul, awareness... all such distinctions are irrelevant. And *free will*. What is that? Be ready to leave it behind. The journey you wish to travel on means *no* baggage. Absolutely none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2004 Report Share Posted January 1, 2004 Dear Suchitra, Yep, of the two bit fame. So how's it at Wipro? - <suchitra.sathyanarayan <Nisargadatta > Thursday, January 01, 2004 11:09 AM RE: A question received at the Nisargadatta.net > Dear sandeep, > Are you the famous sandeep chatterjee of the " my two bits anyway " fame? > Just curious. > > Happy new year all. > > > sandeepc [sandeepc] > Thursday, January 01, 2004 11:13 AM > Nisargadatta > Re: A question received at the Nisargadatta.net > > > Happy New year to all, > > > - > <hur > <Nisargadatta > > Thursday, January 01, 2004 07:41 AM > A question received at the Nisargadatta.net > > > > I received the following question at the Nisargadatta.net site. If > > there are any responses, I'll forward: > > > > Dear Advaita Person > > > > In the silence I allow awareness to focus on awareness...in the > > one, > > > That awareness in which there is an " allowing " agency,.....is not > awareness. > > > >but I have a question. > > Not surprising. > > An " allowing " agency will always have a question. > > Awareness, being when there is nothing to be aware of,.......... and > thus no one to be aware.............what questions can arise in > awareness. > > > > In the maya can be perceived the > > material,astral,causal,mental,and etheric worlds...soul/awareness > > being the only one that is truly real,but if the goal of an adavaita > > student is achieved > > > A true apperception of Advaita, is the end of all goals and ergo the > cessation of the very seeking to achieve any goal. > > > > > can the student or master then make a choice and > > have the ability to enter into these planes at will which would be > > proof to oneself of being unlimited? > > > In a gestalt of apperception,.........no difference remains with the > material/astral/mental/etheric worlds,..........all such " worlds " seen > to be projections of the conditioned mind, knowledgeable of such > " worlds " . > > Whatever you see or experience is created, by the knowledge you have, of > that which is being seen or experienced. > > Thus the material hoopla, the astral hoopla, the mental hoopla, the > etheric hoopla. > > > > > > This is a good question concerning being unlimited by still having > choice of free will > > although one is aware of the self being one. > > > In a true apperception of Advaita,............. is the total irrelevance > of terms like " limited " , " unlimited " , " destiny " , " free will " ,.... > > ...even the term of " ONE " is meaningless. > > > For a true apperception of Advaita,..............is the end of the very > concept of Advaita. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2004 Report Share Posted January 1, 2004 Hi sandeep.:-) At wipro there's so much work to be done.. I do mine in spurts(I really do---in case mr.premji is secretly d to this list:-)) .... But what I've been doing off late when the rest of my team was holidaying, was to gorge on the mail archives Of a net of jewels and nisargadatta... That probably explains " it " :-) Yours truly is a spiritual greenhorn btw. Thankyou .suchitra sandeepc [sandeepc] Thursday, January 01, 2004 5:09 PM Nisargadatta Re: A question received at the Nisargadatta.net Dear Suchitra, Yep, of the two bit fame. So how's it at Wipro? - <suchitra.sathyanarayan <Nisargadatta > Thursday, January 01, 2004 11:09 AM RE: A question received at the Nisargadatta.net > Dear sandeep, > Are you the famous sandeep chatterjee of the " my two bits anyway " > fame? Just curious. > > Happy new year all. > > > sandeepc [sandeepc] > Thursday, January 01, 2004 11:13 AM > Nisargadatta > Re: A question received at the Nisargadatta.net > > > Happy New year to all, > > > - > <hur > <Nisargadatta > > Thursday, January 01, 2004 07:41 AM > A question received at the Nisargadatta.net > > > > I received the following question at the Nisargadatta.net site. If > > there are any responses, I'll forward: > > > > Dear Advaita Person > > > > In the silence I allow awareness to focus on awareness...in the one, > > > That awareness in which there is an " allowing " agency,.....is not > awareness. > > > >but I have a question. > > Not surprising. > > An " allowing " agency will always have a question. > > Awareness, being when there is nothing to be aware of,.......... and > thus no one to be aware.............what questions can arise in > awareness. > > > > In the maya can be perceived the > > material,astral,causal,mental,and etheric worlds...soul/awareness > > being the only one that is truly real,but if the goal of an adavaita > > student is achieved > > > A true apperception of Advaita, is the end of all goals and ergo the > cessation of the very seeking to achieve any goal. > > > > > can the student or master then make a choice and > > have the ability to enter into these planes at will which would be > > proof to oneself of being unlimited? > > > In a gestalt of apperception,.........no difference remains with the > material/astral/mental/etheric worlds,..........all such " worlds " seen > to be projections of the conditioned mind, knowledgeable of such > " worlds " . > > Whatever you see or experience is created, by the knowledge you have, > of that which is being seen or experienced. > > Thus the material hoopla, the astral hoopla, the mental hoopla, the > etheric hoopla. > > > > > > This is a good question concerning being unlimited by still having > choice of free will > > although one is aware of the self being one. > > > In a true apperception of Advaita,............. is the total > irrelevance of terms like " limited " , " unlimited " , " destiny " , " free > will " ,.... > > ...even the term of " ONE " is meaningless. > > > For a true apperception of Advaita,..............is the end of the > very concept of Advaita. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2004 Report Share Posted January 1, 2004 Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@x> wrote: > > Dear Advaita Person > > > > In the silence I allow awareness to focus on awareness...in the > > one,but I have a question. In the maya can be perceived the > > material,astral,causal,mental,and etheric worlds...soul/awareness > > being the only one that is truly real,but if the goal of an adavaita > > student is achieved can the student or master then make a choice and > > have the ability to enter into these planes at will which would be > > proof to oneself of being unlimited? This is a good question > > concerning being unlimited by still having choice of free will > > although one is aware of the self being one. > > Sincerely, > > John of Colonial Heights Va. > > All such concerns become dissolved. > Freedom is the end of all concern, period. > > Note that all distinctions mentioned in this message > are distractions. Material, astral, causal, maya, soul, > awareness... all such distinctions are irrelevant. > > And *free will*. What is that? > Be ready to leave it behind. > The journey you wish to travel on means > *no* baggage. Absolutely none. Bill! Glad to see you back. Hope you're well. Now we have to get Dan back, and the unholy trinity will be in business again. Happy new year, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2004 Report Share Posted January 1, 2004 It has been a while Pete. Glad to be back. Have known it was just a matter of time. And yes... the Three Amigos... where is that guy? -Bill - " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us <Nisargadatta > Thursday, January 01, 2004 9:31 AM Re: A question received at the Nisargadatta.net > Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@x> wrote: > > > Dear Advaita Person > > > > > > In the silence I allow awareness to focus on awareness...in the > > > one,but I have a question. In the maya can be perceived the > > > material,astral,causal,mental,and etheric worlds...soul/awareness > > > being the only one that is truly real,but if the goal of an > adavaita > > > student is achieved can the student or master then make a choice > and > > > have the ability to enter into these planes at will which would > be > > > proof to oneself of being unlimited? This is a good question > > > concerning being unlimited by still having choice of free will > > > although one is aware of the self being one. > > > Sincerely, > > > John of Colonial Heights Va. > > > > All such concerns become dissolved. > > Freedom is the end of all concern, period. > > > > Note that all distinctions mentioned in this message > > are distractions. Material, astral, causal, maya, soul, > > awareness... all such distinctions are irrelevant. > > > > And *free will*. What is that? > > Be ready to leave it behind. > > The journey you wish to travel on means > > *no* baggage. Absolutely none. > > Bill! Glad to see you back. Hope you're well. > Now we have to get Dan back, and the unholy trinity > will be in business again. > > Happy new year, > Pete > > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 > > - > > <suchitra.sathyanarayan > > <Nisargadatta > > > Thursday, January 01, 2004 05:10 PM > > RE: A question received at the Nisargadatta.net > > > > > > > Hi sandeep.:-) > > > > > > At wipro there's so much work to be done.. I thought at Wipro, it's one big goofing away.:-) > > > I do mine in spurts(I really do---in case mr.premji is secretly > > > d to this list:-)) :-) > > > ... > > > But what I've been doing off late when the rest of my team was > > > holidaying, was to gorge on the mail archives > > > Of a net of jewels and nisargadatta... > > > > > > That probably explains " it " :-) > > > Yours truly is a spiritual greenhorn btw. How would you know? What is the contrasting standard, against which you regression-test, the software? And would that evaluation be anything more than that,....a relativity to a self conceived assumption? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.