Consciousness and the Absolute- (Wry: -this is terrible)

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Hi. Happy New Year everyone. Just to get off to a good start, it is terrible

that you have posted this. It shows how people go mechanicaly from topic to

topic, not even using their own words. First thing in the New Year they are off

to a canned start. It is a disservice to humanity. Why do you do it? I

understand you do not know why. It is like asking a two year old why he hits

another two year old. Ha ha. If he knew why, he would not do it. I only pose

this question to show you the kiond of questions your guru asks. (See below).

 

First you post on mindfulness. It was very interesting. Of course a person

should try to be mindful every moment. It was very inspirational spiritual

writing, though with a holes in it, which should be investigated. None the less,

inspirational--to me, at least. And now you are on to the next topic and not

even your own words. Ha ha. Did you not try to do it, to be mindful like this?

What happened? Were you able to? Were there laspses in mindfulness? I presume

so. Do you not want to talk about it? Maybe it is because you were so busy

thinking about posting the next topic, finding someone elses words to use,

someone to be an authority. From topic to topic, always triggred by something or

other. It is heartbreaking. Of course there is a war when two people want two

different topics on the same page. So you keep changing the subject when it is

too hard, when there is not enough mindfulness to intelligently adress the

specifics of a situation. Of course Judi's son is in Iraq because of this, but

it is not like you think. It is because of you changing the subject. Eventually

one would need to be mindful of ones own mechanical way of handling material.

One would need to apply mindfulness to communication. This means as you or I are

writing the message, there is a mindfulness of ones self doing this, a

mindfulness of the act of creation as it is emanating out of the spoken word,

always original, alive and specific, tailored to an individual situation,

addressed by an individual, specific human intelligence. Canned words cannot do

this. Plus, perhaps your teacher is wrong. In my opinion, he is wrong, but

whatever. In any case, when we put this kind of material out here, we are

encouraging assimation by rote. Genuine learning, which is so exciting, cannot

occur under these conditions. Posting this kind of material contributes to an

environment of mental dullness. Can you not see it? It is much better to listen

to a Judi, though I do not even necessarily agree with her. Of course there will

be no war if everyone is mindful, but that is a moot point. The key to being

mindful is not about that, but about oneself being mindful. If one is not able

to be mindful, then being truthful about this, being honest, investigating the

subject of mindfulness is a beginning that is humble, as well as noble in its

purpose. Sincerely, Wry

-

Era

Nisargadatta

Thursday, January 01, 2004 2:48 PM

Consciousness and the Absolute

 

 

Question: When I meditate I fall asleep. What can I do to overcome

that?

 

Maharaj: Don't raise this problem at all with me. You are in the

three states,

the waking state, deep sleep state and the knowledge you are, so why

are you

dealing with the state, which you are not? Why are you interested?

 

It is

spontaneously happening. You have to understand that when you are

being

stabilized in a state prior to waking state, deep sleep, prior to

words and even

prior to consciousness, something happens in your body state without

you doing

it. Leave it alone. Don't ask questions about that. You are on this

side and

if something is happening, why are you worried about it? Be

yourself. If your

are yourself, you need not worry about what is happening at the

other end. You

are interested in your experiential state. There are so many

experiences; such

as, I saw blue light, I went up, etc., don't tell me all those

things. Be your

self and not the experiences. This is also a temporary phase and you

are giving

it undue importance by saying. " Oh, it is something! " It happens

naturally.

 

There was a gentleman who came to me and he told me he would start

crying

and sobbing for about 10 minutes when he meditated. He thought it

was a very

great thing that happened to him in the process of Self-realization.

What is

the point of getting excited and saying, " Oh! I started crying! " So

what! You

are not the one crying; you are not your emotions, are you? So many

people come

to Maharaj to tell him of the spiritual experiences, which they have

undergone

through meditation, just to show people " I am something! "

 

When you fall into sleep be alert and remind yourself that " I Am the

manifest Brahman, " at that moment, on the borderline, During the

course of sleep

your transcendence is prior to mind, and continues during sleep

also. If you

fall into sleep reciting japa and at midnight you wake up, you will

find that

japa continuing. If you are alert, be aware of yourself and you will

see light

in the deepest recesses of you core.

 

final talks: Consciousness and the Absolute June 10, 1981

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nisargadatta , " wry " <wry1111@e...> wrote:

> Hi. Happy New Year everyone. Just to get off to a good start, it is

terrible that you have posted this. It shows how people go

mechanicaly from topic to topic, not even using their own words.

First thing in the New Year they are off to a canned start. It is a

disservice to humanity. Why do you do it? I understand you do not

know why. It is like asking a two year old why he hits another two

year old. Ha ha. If he knew why, he would not do it. I only pose this

question to show you the kiond of questions your guru asks. (See

below).

>

 

but of course " me " prefers to unfold its own myth, rather than

someone else's. even in this case this someone else happens to be

the guru that this group is dedicated to.

 

hur

[Guest guest]

Happy New Year to all!

 

 

Wry,

 

 

LOL. What a strange post! Are you Judi's advocate? I don't think she

needs one, at least, here on the list.

 

 

 

 

>>Of course Judi's son is in Iraq because of this, but it is not

like you think. It is because of you changing the subject.<<

 

 

>>Can you not see it? It is much better to listen to a Judi, though

I do not even necessarily agree with her. Of course there will be no

war if everyone is mindful, but that is a moot point.<<

 

 

>>The key to being mindful is not about that, but about oneself

being mindful. If one is not able to be mindful, then being truthful

about this, being honest, investigating the subject of mindfulness

is a beginning that is humble, as well as noble in its purpose.<<

 

 

Thanks for the laugh, Wry!

 

 

best wishes

sk

[Guest guest]

Dejavu all over again? why are you really writing this? In my case,

when I post a similar message, which I've done way too many times, I'm

talking to myself. But maybe that's just me. Personally I appreciate

the Era's and Ben Hassine's and other's who find jewels and pass them

along. Maybe they aren't to learn from. Maybe they are to read and

absorb and enjoy like any fine piece of poetry. It's how I found the

Niz so it can't be all bad. Era...I say do what moves you. Post away,

my dear. and Wry, change the channel if the program isn't to you liking...

:::she says holding her mirror firmly in both hands pointing towards

herself::::

Red

[Guest guest]

Hi. I am sorry if I offended people with my post. I did not know this person was

the guru of this email list.. In any case, I have always had a problem with

people using the words of other people rather than their own, and this includes

the words of my own teachers, including the words (on tape) of my much beloved

teacher being played to new students, after he was dead, when I was still a

member of that community. See below.

-

hur

Nisargadatta

Thursday, January 01, 2004 9:46 PM

Re: Consciousness and the Absolute- (Wry: -this is

terrible)

 

 

Nisargadatta , " wry " <wry1111@e...> wrote:

> Hi. Happy New Year everyone. Just to get off to a good start, it is

terrible that you have posted this. It shows how people go

mechanicaly from topic to topic, not even using their own words.

First thing in the New Year they are off to a canned start. It is a

disservice to humanity. Why do you do it? I understand you do not

know why. It is like asking a two year old why he hits another two

year old. Ha ha. If he knew why, he would not do it. I only pose this

question to show you the kind of questions your guru asks. (See

below).

>

 

but of course " me " prefers to unfold its own myth, rather than

someone else's.

--------

Wry: Well, sure--everyone prefers to speak about his own experience, in that

they can relate to that, but even your reply seems sort of canned. I have heard

a lot of talk like this on here, from various people, about the " me. " Yeah, the

" me " likes its own story, but putting out someone else story is not really the

remedy to this " me. " Can you see it? It is very interesting. It is the " " that

selects this someone elses story, anyway, so that reply does not really hold

water, even in this case. I hope someone does not come out now and tell me me

that the " me " cannot apply a remedy to itself, or some such silly nonsense. Of

course it is true that the " me " cannot do such a thing, but it is the context

into which I have seen such remarks inserted which puts a damper on the flame

connected to a seeing that is pure. People could be talking about how to see,

how to be mindful.This is not a story of the me, but of discovering a practical

method in which the seeing of what is is not contaminated by the me. There are

approaches that have more of a chance of yielding fruit and others that cannot

succeed. It is not all the same. The field requires a selection, even if it is

to wipe ones butt with a piece of toilet paper instead of a face cloth. Of

course we already know that, but once we did not. Look deep into the heart of

your teacher's teaching and see if you can you can find an underlying

organization that involves not only a developed discrimation, but a continuing

developing of discrimation, occuring within a structure of organization that is

continuously reorganizing, to the heart, to the core, in again and out again. If

you cannot find it, it is not alive, but I think you will find it, if this

teaching is connected to the previous posting on mindfulness. Someone please

tell me if the posting on mindfulness is from the same person as the second

posting.

---------

even in this case this someone else happens to be

the guru that this group is dedicated to.

---------

Wry: I did not know. Is he alive or dead? If he is alive, why is he not on

here, answering current questions, in present time? If he is dead, who is the

alive teacher? I guess I probably do not belong on this list, but, if it is

okay, I will stay for a little while, as I have some questions to ask and some

comments to make that I hope will be of a positive value. Sincerely, Wry p.s. I

will reread the two posting and try to make a further comment.

 

hur

 

 

 

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Hi.

-

red_mank

Nisargadatta

Friday, January 02, 2004 8:34 AM

Re: Consciousness and the Absolute- (Wry: -this is

terrible)

 

 

Dejavu all over again? why are you really writing this?

--------

Wry: This I can answer. Because I see a potential on this list that is being

frittered away, and I believe that if that potential were not wasted to the

extent it is, it could in some way be harnassed so as to help myself and others

realize our own full potential. It was really easy for me to write that message

and also the one I just wrote in reply to Hur, but not mechanical.

--------

In my case,

when I post a similar message, which I've done way too many times, I'm

talking to myself.

-------

Wry: I have only been on this list a few weeks, but I have never seen a

message from you, so I do not know if your messages are similar to mine. I doubt

it. In any case, I doubt that I am talking only to myself, as I am inspired.

There is a living quality to this.

------

But maybe that's just me.

-------

Wry: I do not know or care. I am just doing what seems intelligent and makes

sense to myself, and also, the motivation is very good--it is too help people,

not to harm them. Maybe I am connected to the person who wrote those things

(your guru?) in some way you do not understand. The world is very interesting.

--------

Personally I appreciate

the Era's and Ben Hassine's and other's who find jewels and pass them

along. Maybe they aren't to learn from. Maybe they are to read and

absorb and enjoy like any fine piece of poetry. It's how I found the

Niz so it can't be all bad.

-------

Wry: It is all how you use it. Are you using this? I personally got a lot out

of the posting on mindfulness. It made a big impression upon me. Ususally I do

not like canned material on email lists, but this was an exception. When he

posted the second one, I realized he did not understand the gravity of his, of

our situation, He has no knowledge. This is not about the me, but about doing

consciously, striking a certain chord, without which chord a certain symphony

cannot be played. Of course a rap song is not the same as a great symphony--if

you really listen. I hope someone does not come and tell me that from the

perspective of the absolute or the real 'Self " it is all the same, or some such

nonesense. It cannot be true. In the ashram one does not go to the bathroom in

the middle of the teaching hall. Discrimination is always required. Even to be

mindful, one uses discrimination to determine the value of doing that.

------

Era...I say do what moves you. Post away,

my dear. and Wry, change the channel if the program isn't to you liking...

-------

Wry: Of course everyone should do what is meaningful to himself. It is a

given. It is not exactly like a channel with a fixed agenda. When there is

ongoing learning, conscious participation, each for himself as well as the

other, it is alive t.v., more interactive. When we see a constant, what a real

constant is and how it functions, we will recognize it. If something is flowing,

thought cannot wrap around it except to create a dam, but a human being uses

thought as a tool, and if we look carefully at certain teaching from India, we

will find an inner teaching as well as an outer one. Within the shell, there is

a nut, but without the shell, there is no nut.

---------

:::she says holding her mirror firmly in both hands pointing towards

herself::::

---------

Wry: It is not like you think. We cannot show ourselves to ourselves or each

other, as what is not the self is impartial, or as Jess has said, a witness. The

witness does not choose what to look at. He surveys all aspects. Meanwhile,

below, life goes on. It is in the connecting of this ordinary life to the life

of this witness where we find the great work. Of course the witness cannot talk

about it, as the witness cannot know it, in that knowing is selective, nor can

he be it, as he cannot know he is being it. But being can reveal itself by the

work of the hand. It is a matter of ecstacy.

 

When we read these canned posts, no matter whose words they are, one after

another, be they great inspired writings on mindfulness or whatever, this

conditions us not to be mindful. The words go in one ear and out the other. One

moment I think I have found a " jewel. " The next moment I am more deeply asleep.

You can investigate and find out if this is a fact. Sincerely, Wry

 

Red

 

 

 

 

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<<

Hi. I am sorry if I offended people with my post. I did not know this person

was the guru of this email list.. In any case, I have always had a problem

with people using the words of other people rather than their own, and this

includes the words of my own teachers, including the words (on tape) of my

much beloved teacher being played to new students, after he was dead, when I

was still a member of that community. See below.

>>

I just woke up with the clear intent to write a post to you stating that it

seemed

clear to me that you do not belong on this list. Coming in here to do that,

I see

this message of yours and am impressed with your appology.

 

I myself feel strongly that speaking from one's own experience and from the

heart is the essence of good list participation. Nisargadatta himself said

many

times how he hadn't read the scriptures and didn't quote others. It is

ironic,

therefore, to quote Nisargadatta. However, I have read many quotes of

dialogs with him that I have enjoyed very much. And this list *is* dedicated

to him.

 

If you speak with kindness and gentleness, speak from your own experience,

and always *own* what you say as being simply your perspective, then I am

sure you will do fine here. The best way to encourage others to speak from

their own experience is by your our example. Being vulnerable on a list

like this takes the greatest courage, and is the greatest gift of love. Some

people do this more easily than others. Bombasting attacks don't encourage

such a spirit of openness.

 

Bill

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Hi.

-

Bill Rishel

Nisargadatta

Friday, January 02, 2004 11:25 AM

Re: Re: Consciousness and the Absolute- (Wry: -this is

terrible)

 

 

<<

Hi. I am sorry if I offended people with my post. I did not know this person

was the guru of this email list.. In any case, I have always had a problem

with people using the words of other people rather than their own, and this

includes the words of my own teachers, including the words (on tape) of my

much beloved teacher being played to new students, after he was dead, when I

was still a member of that community. See below.

>>

I just woke up with the clear intent to write a post to you stating that it

seemed

clear to me that you do not belong on this list.

--------

Wry: Who even cares? Ha ha.

-------

Coming in here to do that,

I see

this message of yours and am impressed with your appology.

----------

Wry: Again-who even cares. Ha ha.

---------

 

I myself feel strongly that speaking from one's own experience and from the

heart is the essence of good list participation. Nisargadatta himself said

many

times how he hadn't read the scriptures and didn't quote others. It is

ironic,

therefore, to quote Nisargadatta. However, I have read many quotes of

dialogs with him that I have enjoyed very much. And this list *is* dedicated

to him.

--------

Wry: It does not matter about quoting him or not. It is about being conscious

and creating an atmosphere that encourages the practice of mindfulness, if it

even should be practiced. I think it should, but others on this list do not. It

is worth enquiring into for a month or so before people go on to their next

prattle.

-----

 

If you speak with kindness and gentleness, speak from your own experience,

and always *own* what you say as being simply your perspective, then I am

sure you will do fine here.

--------

Wry: I am already doing " fine " here. I do not know what that means to you. As

far as speaking with kindness and gentleness, sometimes it is necessary to be

harsh. It is up to the individual to discriminate. Whatever comes our way is

grist for the mill and is to be taken as such. I do not know the (external)

specifics of the teaching of Nisargadatta, but I am sure this approach is in

accordance with it.

-------

The best way to encourage others to speak from

their own experience is by your our example. Being vulnerable on a list

like this takes the greatest courage,

-------

Wry: Ha ha. I do not even believe this. What you are saying is mechanical. It

is much easier to be vulnerable on an email list than in regular life. It is

just words. There is no phtysical contact. This is the place to explore and

experiment, to learn new skills. It is much safer.

-------

and is the greatest gift of love.

--------

Wry: Blah. Blah.

-------

Some

people do this more easily than others.

-------

Wry: So what? It is not even necessary to " open up. " About what? The past? If

there is a question, an exploration, not a clinging, you are safe. Unless there

is friction of some kind, contrast, people cannot develop skills.

--------

Bombasting attacks don't encourage

such a spirit of openness.

---------

Wry: When you think of the human body, when people talk of jewels, they will

eventually have to think in terms of the box. Think this over. Is there a garden

at the ashram? One will have to bring the water in a container, or divert a

little stream. People will open up and reveal their inner selves to strangers at

a bus stoip. It is very common. Or they will stay closed shut. It is not about

either of these. They are both the SAME. Of course people want to reveal

something, but it is not the same as honesty.Maybe they are showing it to hide

something else. It is too hard to sort it all out, even if one has the

discrimation to do so. In my opinion, it is better for people on email to learn

new skills, how to question and focus, and an appropriate environment needs to

be established in order to do that. If it is the teaching of Nisargadatta or

whatever, it will get home to you better in this way. Sincerely, Wry

 

Bill

 

 

 

 

 

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-

" wry " <wry1111

<Nisargadatta >

Friday, January 02, 2004 11:17 AM

Re: Re: Consciousness and the Absolute- (Wry: -this

is terrible)

 

 

> Wry: I have only been on this list a few weeks, but I have never seen a

message from you, so I do not know if your messages are similar to mine. I

doubt it. In any case, I doubt that I am talking only to myself, as I am

inspired. There is a living quality to this.

> ------

> But maybe that's just me.

> -------

> Wry: I do not know or care. I am just doing what seems intelligent and

makes sense to myself, and also, the motivation is very good--it is too help

people, not to harm them. Maybe I am connected to the person who wrote those

things (your guru?) in some way you do not understand. The world is very

interesting.

 

 

Dear Wry,

 

It is obvious from your posts, that you have not been exposed to, or are in

resonance with Nisargadatta or the likes....Jnanis/Jnana Yoga.

 

In being a member here, it might be something to consider....

 

also, just because most members don't post here, doesn't mean they are

" frittering " time away.....on the contrary...it could be indicative that

'time' is not being frittered away but rather that there is understanding.

 

happy new year,

jess

[Guest guest]

Hi.

-

Jessica White

Nisargadatta

Friday, January 02, 2004 1:04 PM

Re: Re: Consciousness and the Absolute- (Wry: -this is

terrible)

 

 

 

-

" wry " <wry1111

<Nisargadatta >

Friday, January 02, 2004 11:17 AM

Re: Re: Consciousness and the Absolute- (Wry: -this

is terrible)

 

 

> Wry: I have only been on this list a few weeks, but I have never seen a

message from you, so I do not know if your messages are similar to mine. I

doubt it. In any case, I doubt that I am talking only to myself, as I am

inspired. There is a living quality to this.

> ------

> But maybe that's just me.

> -------

> Wry: I do not know or care. I am just doing what seems intelligent and

makes sense to myself, and also, the motivation is very good--it is too help

people, not to harm them. Maybe I am connected to the person who wrote those

things (your guru?) in some way you do not understand. The world is very

interesting.

 

 

Dear Wry,

 

It is obvious from your posts, that you have not been exposed to, or are in

resonance with Nisargadatta or the likes....Jnanis/Jnana Yoga.

--------

Wry: I do not know. There is not much content to what you are saying, though

I'm sure it has inner meaning to yourself. Do you realize that you are

projecting that I will understand what you are saying?

---------

 

In being a member here, it might be something to consider....

--------

Wry: Jesse, I am sure you believe you are communicating something, but there

is literally no content to your message (what I have read so far), in that there

is no contrast and therefore no way for me to understand what you are saying,

assuming that it is true that I do not know whatever it is you are saying I do

not know. It is a tad bizarre.

--------

 

also, just because most members don't post here, doesn't mean they are

" frittering " time away.....on the contrary...it could be indicative that

'time' is not being frittered away but rather that there is understanding.

--------

Wry: You have lost me completely. I cannot recall saying anything to this

effect or even thinking this to myself, or using the word " frittering. " Where

have I expressed any sentiment of this kind? People not posting could mean

anything. It could mean they are afraid to speak, are not even reading the

messages, or are deeply pondering the material, but just have nothing to say at

that time. I have said I have never seen a message from this person, Bill, so I

cannot tell if his messages are like mind, but that is a different content which

has not the faintest relationship to the spin you have put on it. I am most

amazed. I will pray for you, that you achieve an inner clarity in the year to

come. If you would care to explain to me how you got this kind of spin out of my

material, and also, what it means to you to be a member of this list, to

resonate in resonance with Nisargadatta, I would be geninuely interested. I will

pray that ytou achieve inner clarity in the New Year. I am really sorry that

some people have gotten bent out of shape by my message(s). Bill, I responded to

you the way I did because it seemed appropriate. Maybe if you read your message

to me again, you will catch the tone of it and see things in a different light.

Maybe I will be kicked off this list, but, until then, take your little salt

shaker with you when you read one of my messages, and when you begin to get all

hot and swelled up, sprinkle sprinkle sprinke. Goo-bye. Sincerely, Wry p.s. ha

ha

 

 

 

happy new year,

jess

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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" wry " <wry1111

<Nisargadatta >

Friday, January 02, 2004 11:17 AM

Re: Re: Consciousness and the Absolute-

(Wry: -this

is terrible)

 

 

> Dear Wry,

>

> It is obvious from your posts, that you have not been exposed to, nor

are you in resonance with Nisargadatta or the likes....Jnanis/Jnana Yoga.

> --------

> Wry: I do not know. There is not much content to what you are saying,

though I'm sure it has inner meaning to yourself. Do you realize that you

are projecting that I will understand what you are saying?

> ---------

> Jess: seems pretty clear to me, but how's this?

 

your words reflect a state of consciousness, which reveals that you are not

familiar with the teachings of advaita vedanta.... sometimes called advaita

or jnana yoga.

 

FYI, Nisargadatta ( to whom this list is dedicated) was a Jnani. A Jnani is

a Sage.

>

 

In being a member here, it might be something to consider....

> --------

> Wry: Jesse, I am sure you believe you are communicating something, but

there is literally no content to your message (what I have read so far), in

that there is no contrast and therefore no way for me to understand what you

are saying,

snip>

 

Jess: The bird flew out of the cukoo's nest. No contrast there. Is that not

easy to understand?

 

 

Wry: ... assuming that it is true that I do not know whatever it is you

are saying I do not know. It is a tad bizarre.

 

Jess: you're communication is a tad bizarre.

 

Jess: since you are now a member of this group it might be something to

consider ( that you are not familiar with the teachings of advaita or

Nisargadatta) before attempting to teach people on this list (which you

would not attempt if you understood advaita). It might behoove you to

atleast know something about advaita and/or Nisargadatta, the one to whom

this list is dedicated before you open your mouth....or rather... type your

words.

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>

> Jess: also, just because most members don't post here, doesn't mean they

are

> " frittering " time away.....on the contrary...it could be indicative that

> 'time' is not being frittered away but rather that there is

understanding.

> --------

> Wry: You have lost me completely. I cannot recall saying anything to

this effect or even thinking this to myself, or using the word " frittering. "

Where have I expressed any sentiment of this kind?

 

Jess: excuse me Wry...you said life not time but I think ???? u can get my

drift....here u go....

 

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> red_mank

> Nisargadatta

> Friday, January 02, 2004 8:34 AM

> Re: Consciousness and the Absolute- (Wry: -this

is terrible)

>

>

> Dejavu all over again? why are you really writing this?

> --------

> Wry: This I can answer. Because I see a potential on this list that is

being frittered away, and I believe that if that potential were not wasted

to the extent it is....

 

.... it could in some way be harnassed so as to help myself

and others realize our own full potential. It was really easy for me to

write that message and also the one I just wrote in reply to Hur, but not

mechanical.

SNIP>

 

Jess: If you were familiar with and in resonance with advaita or

Nisargadatta, you would not have that outlook.

 

 

Wry:

People not posting could mean anything. It could mean they are afraid to

speak, are not even reading the messages, or are deeply pondering the

material, but just have nothing to say at that time. I have said I have

never seen a message from this person, Bill, so I cannot tell if his

messages are like mind, but that is a different content which has not the

faintest relationship to the spin you have put on it.

 

Jess: actually Wry, that was red_ mank u were writing to about a post like

yours, but as for 'my spin' ....lol...I must apologize. I thought it was

you, who had remarked

sometime back about the large # of members not posting here...perhaps being

afraid to

show themselves. Sorry.

 

Wry: and also, what it means to you to be a member of this list, to

resonate in resonance with Nisargadatta, I would be geninuely interested.

 

Jess:

being attracted to/drawn to the teachings of advaita and living life from

that perspective. Why don't you check Nisargadatta or advaita ( Ramana

Maharshi, Robert Adams, UG Krisnamurti, say the same thing, but with their

own flavor) out for yourself?

 

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Wry: Maybe I will be kicked off this list

 

Jess: I doubt it.