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Nisargadatta , " Sheilah " <sheilah@s...> wrote:

>

> Physical pain is inevitable, however, suffering is an option.

>

> http://www.sheilah.net

 

who's turn is it for this one?

i'll take the next if nobody objects

eric

ps: note that she's got a point this time, let's add that pain is a

contact that needs to be defined instead of avoided

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Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien "

<brahmanshines@a...> wrote:

> Nisargadatta , " Sheilah " <sheilah@s...> wrote:

> >

> > Physical pain is inevitable, however, suffering is an option.

> >

> > http://www.sheilah.net

>

> who's turn is it for this one?

> i'll take the next if nobody objects

> eric

> ps: note that she's got a point this time, let's add that pain is a

> contact that needs to be defined instead of avoided

 

It's an artificial distinction, Eric, although

one people like to make for various reasons.

 

When pain is, it is. When it's done, it's done.

 

When suffering is, it is. When it's done, it's done.

 

Options don't pertain, except to a mind considering

its options.

 

No investment in mind, no concern about what is or

isn't optional.

 

-- Dan

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033>

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> Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien "

> <brahmanshines@a...> wrote:

> > Nisargadatta , " Sheilah " <sheilah@s...>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Physical pain is inevitable, however, suffering is an option.

> > >

> > > http://www.sheilah.net

> >

> > who's turn is it for this one?

> > i'll take the next if nobody objects

> > eric

> > ps: note that she's got a point this time, let's add that pain is

a

> > contact that needs to be defined instead of avoided

>

> It's an artificial distinction, Eric, although

> one people like to make for various reasons.

>

> When pain is, it is. When it's done, it's done.

>

> When suffering is, it is. When it's done, it's done.

>

> Options don't pertain, except to a mind considering

> its options.

>

> No investment in mind, no concern about what is or

> isn't optional.

>

> -- Dan

 

yes Dan,

i was stuck in my recent " point of contact " epiphany, where the 'me'

is only the succession of the various contacts with " obstacles "

and " events " ; it is a joy to see it pop up and vanish like a school

of kingfishers diving in turn in the sea to get their fish (sometimes

they miss)

'me' being the surface of the water

eric

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> It's an artificial distinction, Eric, although

> one people like to make for various reasons.

To say it is an " artificial distinction " is a distinction...

An artificial one?

 

Bill

 

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" dan330033 " <dan330033

<Nisargadatta >

Thursday, January 15, 2004 11:06 AM

Re: Options

 

 

> Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien "

> <brahmanshines@a...> wrote:

> > Nisargadatta , " Sheilah " <sheilah@s...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Physical pain is inevitable, however, suffering is an option.

> > >

> > > http://www.sheilah.net

> >

> > who's turn is it for this one?

> > i'll take the next if nobody objects

> > eric

> > ps: note that she's got a point this time, let's add that pain is a

> > contact that needs to be defined instead of avoided

>

> It's an artificial distinction, Eric, although

> one people like to make for various reasons.

>

> When pain is, it is. When it's done, it's done.

>

> When suffering is, it is. When it's done, it's done.

>

> Options don't pertain, except to a mind considering

> its options.

>

> No investment in mind, no concern about what is or

> isn't optional.

>

> -- Dan

>

>

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> yes Dan,

> i was stuck in my recent " point of contact " epiphany, where

the 'me'

> is only the succession of the various contacts with " obstacles "

> and " events " ; it is a joy to see it pop up and vanish like a school

> of kingfishers diving in turn in the sea to get their fish

(sometimes

> they miss)

> 'me' being the surface of the water

> eric

 

Yeah, intriguing stuff, these points of contact!

 

(I won't say it, I won't say it, I won't say it.

 

" Who sees it pop up and vanish? "

 

Damn, I said it.

 

Damn, I said it.)

 

:-)

 

Not saying anything,

Your local point-of-contact

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Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@x> wrote:

> > It's an artificial distinction, Eric, although

> > one people like to make for various reasons.

> To say it is an " artificial distinction " is a distinction...

> An artificial one?

>

> Bill

 

Bill, you're being silly.

 

To say that an artificial distinction is a distinction,

is also a distinction.

 

An artificial one being made about an artificial one?

 

Yours from the hall of silly ad infinitum mirrors,

where rejoinders are provided infinitely out of

context,

Dan

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> Bill, you're being silly.

What, me silly?

 

As for context, I've lost it on this one.

Perhaps if I saw more of the original post...

 

As it is, I have no clue as to what my point might

have been.

 

Hmmm... I wonder if it was a rejoinder out of context....

 

Bill

 

 

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" dan330033 " <dan330033

<Nisargadatta >

Friday, January 16, 2004 1:19 PM

Re: Options

 

 

> Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@x> wrote:

> > > It's an artificial distinction, Eric, although

> > > one people like to make for various reasons.

> > To say it is an " artificial distinction " is a distinction...

> > An artificial one?

> >

> > Bill

>

> Bill, you're being silly.

>

> To say that an artificial distinction is a distinction,

> is also a distinction.

>

> An artificial one being made about an artificial one?

>

> Yours from the hall of silly ad infinitum mirrors,

> where rejoinders are provided infinitely out of

> context,

> Dan

>

>

> **

>

> If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your

subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups:

>

> /mygroups?edit=1

>

> Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta

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>

>

>

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033>

wrote:

> > yes Dan,

> > i was stuck in my recent " point of contact " epiphany, where

> the 'me'

> > is only the succession of the various contacts with " obstacles "

> > and " events " ; it is a joy to see it pop up and vanish like a

school

> > of kingfishers diving in turn in the sea to get their fish

> (sometimes

> > they miss)

> > 'me' being the surface of the water

> > eric

>

> Yeah, intriguing stuff, these points of contact!

>

> (I won't say it, I won't say it, I won't say it.

>

> " Who sees it pop up and vanish? "

>

> Damn, I said it.

>

> Damn, I said it.)

>

> :-)

>

> Not saying anything,

> Your local point-of-contact

 

oh !! you're the local point-of-contact, 'am glad i caugh you 'cause

ye see i bought this mind vacuum clearner the other day and it juss

don't work ye see

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Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@x> wrote:

> > Bill, you're being silly.

> What, me silly?

>

> As for context, I've lost it on this one.

> Perhaps if I saw more of the original post...

>

> As it is, I have no clue as to what my point might

> have been.

>

> Hmmm... I wonder if it was a rejoinder out of context....

>

> Bill

 

so it does work for you at least...

you spin yourself silly with the blackhole semantics

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Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@x> wrote:

> > Bill, you're being silly.

> What, me silly?

>

> As for context, I've lost it on this one.

> Perhaps if I saw more of the original post...

>

> As it is, I have no clue as to what my point might

> have been.

>

> Hmmm... I wonder if it was a rejoinder out of context....

>

> Bill

 

I joinder in the heated context.

 

Later, I rejoinder.

 

But then, she contexted my advance.

 

I reversed my advance, but lost my point.

 

I said I never lost my point before I rejoinder,

but she said she'd rather not see any more

of my original post.

 

Seeing as how my reversed advances were being hotly

contexted, I cluelessly realized I had

lost it on that one.

 

-- Dan

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