Guest guest Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 If you meet a Buddha on your path... Shoot him/her! Go beyond the illusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 Nisargadatta , laya_el wrote: > If you meet a Buddha on your path... Shoot him/her! > > Go beyond the illusion If your goal is to go beyond illusion.....shoot yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 Nisargadatta , laya_el wrote: > If you meet a Buddha on your path... Shoot him/her! > > Go beyond the illusion Well.........yes...your honor.......I am guilty...I shot him...but.....you gotta understand.........he was the Buddha.............and......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2003 " <toombaru2003> wrote: > Nisargadatta , laya_el wrote: > > If you meet a Buddha on your path... Shoot him/her! > > > > Go beyond the illusion > > > > If your goal is to go beyond illusion.....shoot yourself. And if it that doesn't work, try something else.... next time ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2003 " > <toombaru2003> wrote: > > Nisargadatta , laya_el wrote: > > > If you meet a Buddha on your path... Shoot him/her! > > > > > > Go beyond the illusion > > > > > > > > If your goal is to go beyond illusion.....shoot yourself. > > And if it that doesn't work, try something else.... next time ) Okay. My goal is to go beyond illusion, so this time, I'll kick myself through the goalposts of love! Yeeha! -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Hi Dan, If you wouldn't have used the word " kick " Sheila could have posted it. I like that image, it opens the door to a complete soap-opera. But let me ask: What about the goal keeper, is it Satan or any other dark force ? Werner Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2003 " > > <toombaru2003> wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , laya_el wrote: > > > > If you meet a Buddha on your path... Shoot him/her! > > > > > > > > Go beyond the illusion > > > > > > > > > > > > If your goal is to go beyond illusion.....shoot yourself. > > > > And if it that doesn't work, try something else.... next time ) > > Okay. > > My goal is to go beyond illusion, > so this time, I'll kick myself through > the goalposts of love! > > Yeeha! > > -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Werner, Why didn't you answer KKT? What's the difference between an ego and a me, in your opinion? Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Hi Dan, > > If you wouldn't have used the word " kick " Sheila could have posted it. > > I like that image, it opens the door to a complete soap-opera. But > let me ask: What about the goal keeper, is it Satan or any other dark > force ? > > Werner > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> > > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2003 " > > > <toombaru2003> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , laya_el wrote: > > > > > If you meet a Buddha on your path... Shoot him/her! > > > > > > > > > > Go beyond the illusion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If your goal is to go beyond illusion.....shoot yourself. > > > > > > And if it that doesn't work, try something else.... next time ) > > > > Okay. > > > > My goal is to go beyond illusion, > > so this time, I'll kick myself through > > the goalposts of love! > > > > Yeeha! > > > > -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Pete, I did answer him. My posting has the number 6903. But he didn't react. Could you please be so kind and check that again ? Thanks in advance. Werner Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> wrote: > Werner, > > Why didn't you answer KKT? > > What's the difference between an ego and a me, in your opinion? > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > wrote: > > Hi Dan, > > > > If you wouldn't have used the word " kick " Sheila could have posted > it. > > > > I like that image, it opens the door to a complete soap-opera. But > > let me ask: What about the goal keeper, is it Satan or any other > dark > > force ? > > > > Werner > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> > > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> > > > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2003 " > > > > <toombaru2003> wrote: > > > > > Nisargadatta , laya_el wrote: > > > > > > If you meet a Buddha on your path... Shoot him/her! > > > > > > > > > > > > Go beyond the illusion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If your goal is to go beyond illusion.....shoot yourself. > > > > > > > > And if it that doesn't work, try something else.... next > time ) > > > > > > Okay. > > > > > > My goal is to go beyond illusion, > > > so this time, I'll kick myself through > > > the goalposts of love! > > > > > > Yeeha! > > > > > > -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 No, you did not. What you wrote below doesn't explain the difference in my opinion. You said Ego is a bundle of thoughts about the me. So what is the me? More thoughts? And about what? >Hi KKT, >Yes, when having posted this text I too thought that the word " ego " could cause misnunderstanding. Ego for me means not an illusionary entity but just a bundle of thoughts with the common theme " me and my interests " . For example thoughts how to repair a dropping tap or any other neutral topic in my understanding don't belong to the ego >structure " . >I hope this could help you. >Werner Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Pete, > > I did answer him. My posting has the number 6903. But he didn't > react. Could you please be so kind and check that again ? Thanks in > advance. > > Werner > > > Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> > wrote: > > Werner, > > > > Why didn't you answer KKT? > > > > What's the difference between an ego and a me, in your opinion? > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > > wrote: > > > Hi Dan, > > > > > > If you wouldn't have used the word " kick " Sheila could have > posted > > it. > > > > > > I like that image, it opens the door to a complete soap-opera. > But > > > let me ask: What about the goal keeper, is it Satan or any other > > dark > > > force ? > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> > > > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " > <seesaw1us> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2003 " > > > > > <toombaru2003> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , laya_el wrote: > > > > > > > If you meet a Buddha on your path... Shoot him/her! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Go beyond the illusion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If your goal is to go beyond illusion.....shoot yourself. > > > > > > > > > > And if it that doesn't work, try something else.... next > > time ) > > > > > > > > Okay. > > > > > > > > My goal is to go beyond illusion, > > > > so this time, I'll kick myself through > > > > the goalposts of love! > > > > > > > > Yeeha! > > > > > > > > -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Ok Pete, Now I got it, it was a misunderstanding, I thought you couldn't find my posting. But I cannot give a different answer than I already did, no matter if anyone has a different point of view. I was asked by KKT what my idea is, and I answered it. He did not ask what your idea is, or did he ? Werner Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> wrote: > No, you did not. What you wrote below doesn't explain the > difference > in my opinion. You said Ego is a bundle of thoughts about the me. So > what is the me? More thoughts? And about what? > > >Hi KKT, > > >Yes, when having posted this text I too thought that the word " ego " > could cause misnunderstanding. Ego for me means not an illusionary > entity but just a bundle of thoughts with the common theme " me and my > interests " . For example thoughts how to repair a dropping tap or any > other neutral topic in my understanding don't belong to the ego > >structure " . > > >I hope this could help you. > > >Werner > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > wrote: > > Pete, > > > > I did answer him. My posting has the number 6903. But he didn't > > react. Could you please be so kind and check that again ? Thanks in > > advance. > > > > Werner > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Ok Pete, > > Now I got it, it was a misunderstanding, I thought you couldn't find > my posting. > > But I cannot give a different answer than I already did, no matter if > anyone has a different point of view. I was asked by KKT what my idea > is, and I answered it. He did not ask what your idea is, or did he ? > > Werner That's exactly what he did. He asked you if you knew what my idea was. If you must have one, why not have the right one? IMO ) > > Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> > wrote: > > No, you did not. What you wrote below doesn't explain the > > difference > > in my opinion. You said Ego is a bundle of thoughts about the me. > So > > what is the me? More thoughts? And about what? > > > > >Hi KKT, > > > > >Yes, when having posted this text I too thought that the word " ego " > > could cause misnunderstanding. Ego for me means not an illusionary > > entity but just a bundle of thoughts with the common theme " me and > my > > interests " . For example thoughts how to repair a dropping tap or any > > other neutral topic in my understanding don't belong to the ego > > >structure " . > > > > >I hope this could help you. > > > > >Werner > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > > wrote: > > > Pete, > > > > > > I did answer him. My posting has the number 6903. But he didn't > > > react. Could you please be so kind and check that again ? Thanks > in > > > advance. > > > > > > Werner > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Aha, Pete That looks pretty like a call for team work. If you allow me to suggest a name for our new team: " Petner " . I like it, how do you feel about it? Werner Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > wrote: > > Ok Pete, > > > > Now I got it, it was a misunderstanding, I thought you couldn't > find > > my posting. > > > > But I cannot give a different answer than I already did, no matter > if > > anyone has a different point of view. I was asked by KKT what my > idea > > is, and I answered it. He did not ask what your idea is, or did he ? > > > > Werner > > That's exactly what he did. He asked you if you knew what my idea was. > If you must have one, why not have the right one? IMO ) > > > > > Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> > > wrote: > > > No, you did not. What you wrote below doesn't explain the > > > difference > > > in my opinion. You said Ego is a bundle of thoughts about the me. > > So > > > what is the me? More thoughts? And about what? > > > > > > >Hi KKT, > > > > > > >Yes, when having posted this text I too thought that the > word " ego " > > > could cause misnunderstanding. Ego for me means not an illusionary > > > entity but just a bundle of thoughts with the common theme " me > and > > my > > > interests " . For example thoughts how to repair a dropping tap or > any > > > other neutral topic in my understanding don't belong to the ego > > > >structure " . > > > > > > >I hope this could help you. > > > > > > >Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > > > wrote: > > > > Pete, > > > > > > > > I did answer him. My posting has the number 6903. But he didn't > > > > react. Could you please be so kind and check that again ? > Thanks > > in > > > > advance. > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 - It does have a nice ring to it. And what better partner one can wish for? Anyway here are my ass-ets for the partnership. No one would object if an ego or me ( and for me there is no practical difference) were just a thought. But they are ( in practice) a pro-active stance of defence and acquisition. This stance is powered by greed, fear and anger at the service of a very ancient 'will to live' felt by all animals. In humans this basic 'will to live, prevail, and expand' encoded in our genes, have been transfered to a story line called me. 'Me', could be said, is the subjective feeling of having continuety as a story line; and ego, is that story line on the warpath. Petner -- In Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Aha, Pete > > That looks pretty like a call for team work. If you allow me to > suggest a name for our new team: " Petner " . I like it, how do you feel > about it? > > Werner > > > Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> > > wrote: > > > Ok Pete, > > > > > > Now I got it, it was a misunderstanding, I thought you couldn't > > find > > > my posting. > > > > > > But I cannot give a different answer than I already did, no > matter > > if > > > anyone has a different point of view. I was asked by KKT what my > > idea > > > is, and I answered it. He did not ask what your idea is, or did > he ? > > > > > > Werner > > > > That's exactly what he did. He asked you if you knew what my idea > was. > > If you must have one, why not have the right one? IMO ) > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> > > > wrote: > > > > No, you did not. What you wrote below doesn't explain the > > > > difference > > > > in my opinion. You said Ego is a bundle of thoughts about the > me. > > > So > > > > what is the me? More thoughts? And about what? > > > > > > > > >Hi KKT, > > > > > > > > >Yes, when having posted this text I too thought that the > > word " ego " > > > > could cause misnunderstanding. Ego for me means not an > illusionary > > > > entity but just a bundle of thoughts with the common theme " me > > and > > > my > > > > interests " . For example thoughts how to repair a dropping tap > or > > any > > > > other neutral topic in my understanding don't belong to the ego > > > > >structure " . > > > > > > > > >I hope this could help you. > > > > > > > > >Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " > <wwoehr@p...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Pete, > > > > > > > > > > I did answer him. My posting has the number 6903. But he > didn't > > > > > react. Could you please be so kind and check that again ? > > Thanks > > > in > > > > > advance. > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Hi Werner, > If you wouldn't have used the word " kick " Sheila could have posted it. True enough. So, maybe, to honor Sheila (and you) even more, I'll say that since my goal is to go beyond illusion, this time I'll dissolve as a bubble in the pool of love's clarity. > I like that image, it opens the door to a complete soap-opera. LOL! > But > let me ask: What about the goal keeper, is it Satan or any other dark > force ? Well, I was thinking more of an extra point in an American football game, where all you have to do is have the right altitude, directionality, and force -- and you're in. But, I like the idea of a goal keeper, like in European football. Maybe, the goal keeper could be named " The Void " -- which would automatically delete any self-qualities on the way in, so that after you made it through, you wouldn't be you anymore, and couldn't appreciate what a fine kick kicked you in. :-) -- Dan > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> > > wrote: > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2003 " > > > <toombaru2003> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , laya_el wrote: > > > > > If you meet a Buddha on your path... Shoot him/her! > > > > > > > > > > Go beyond the illusion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If your goal is to go beyond illusion.....shoot yourself. > > > > > > And if it that doesn't work, try something else.... next time ) > > > > Okay. > > > > My goal is to go beyond illusion, > > so this time, I'll kick myself through > > the goalposts of love! > > > > Yeeha! > > > > -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr@p...> wrote: > Ok Pete, > > Now I got it, it was a misunderstanding, I thought you couldn't find > my posting. > > But I cannot give a different answer than I already did, no matter if > anyone has a different point of view. I was asked by KKT what my idea > is, and I answered it. He did not ask what your idea is, or did he ? > > Werner Is it possible that KKT is, in actuality, Mr. Hand? I for one believe that it is possible. -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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