Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 << To delve into the sense of 'I' -- so real and vital -- in order to reach its source is the core of the Nisarga Yoga. Not being continuous, the sense of 'I' must have a source from which it flows and to which it returns. This timeless source of conscious being is what Maharaj calls the self-nature, self-being, swarupa. As to methods of realizing one's supreme identity with the self-being, Maharaj is peculiarly non-committal. He says that each has his own way to reality, and that there can be no general rule. But, for all the gateway to reality, by whatever road one arrives to it, is the sense of 'I am'. It is through grasping the full import of the 'I am', and going beyond it, to its source, that one can realize the supreme state, which is also the primordial and ultimate. >> Note that the " I am " is not here spoken of as the ultimate. It is just a stepping stone. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@x> wrote: > << > To delve into the sense of 'I' -- so real and vital -- in order to reach its source is the core of the Nisarga Yoga. Not being continuous, the sense of 'I' must have a source from which it flows and to which it returns. This timeless source of conscious being is what Maharaj calls the self-nature, self-being, swarupa. > As to methods of realizing one's supreme identity with the self-being, Maharaj is peculiarly non-committal. He says that each has his own way to reality, and that there can be no general rule. But, for all the gateway to reality, by whatever road one arrives to it, is the sense of 'I am'. It is through grasping the full import of the 'I am', and going beyond it, to its source, that one can realize the supreme state, which is also the primordial and ultimate. > >> > > Note that the " I am " is not here spoken of as the ultimate. > > It is just a stepping stone. > > Bill > > > For the 'self'.. the 'I am' is the ultimate.....the fundament....the primal- placental ooze....out of which it and everything it knows emerges. It is the room.... where manifestation is cut up into little pieces.....and everything eats everything.... It is also..... the only door out of the dream....... toombaru > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 << For the 'self'.. the 'I am' is the ultimate.....the fundament....the primal- placental ooze....out of which it and everything it knows emerges. It is the room.... where manifestation is cut up into little pieces.....and everything eats everything.... It is also..... the only door out of the dream....... >> My Toombaru, you do wax poetic... Rather nice, I dare say. Bill btw... that primal-placental ooze....ummm...ummm! - " toombaru2003 " <toombaru2003 <Nisargadatta > Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:13 PM Re: Nisarga Yoga ( " I am " is just a stepping stone) > Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@x> wrote: > > << > > To delve into the sense of 'I' -- so real and vital -- in order to reach its source is the core of the Nisarga Yoga. Not being continuous, the sense of 'I' must have a source from which it flows and to which it returns. This timeless source of conscious being is what Maharaj calls the self-nature, self-being, swarupa. > > As to methods of realizing one's supreme identity with the self-being, Maharaj is peculiarly non-committal. He says that each has his own way to reality, and that there can be no general rule. But, for all the gateway to reality, by whatever road one arrives to it, is the sense of 'I am'. It is through grasping the full import of the 'I am', and going beyond it, to its source, that one can realize the supreme state, which is also the primordial and ultimate. > > >> > > > > Note that the " I am " is not here spoken of as the ultimate. > > > > It is just a stepping stone. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > For the 'self'.. the 'I am' is the ultimate.....the fundament....the primal- placental ooze....out of which it and everything it knows emerges. > > It is the room.... where manifestation is cut up into little pieces.....and everything eats everything.... > > It is also..... the only door out of the dream....... > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@x> wrote: > << > For the 'self'.. the 'I am' is the ultimate.....the fundament....the primal- > placental ooze....out of which it and everything it knows emerges. > > It is the room.... where manifestation is cut up into little pieces.....and > everything eats everything.... > > It is also..... the only door out of the dream....... > >> > My Toombaru, you do wax poetic... > > Rather nice, I dare say. > > Bill > > btw... that primal-placental ooze....ummm...ummm! > > > Ahhh yes Bill Seldom is the nightmarish horror of separation discussed on these lists.... :-) > - > " toombaru2003 " <toombaru2003> > <Nisargadatta > > Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:13 PM > Re: Nisarga Yoga ( " I am " is just a stepping stone) > > > > Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@x> wrote: > > > << > > > To delve into the sense of 'I' -- so real and vital -- in order to reach > its source is the core of the Nisarga Yoga. Not being continuous, the sense > of 'I' must have a source from which it flows and to which it returns. This > timeless source of conscious being is what Maharaj calls the self-nature, > self-being, swarupa. > > > As to methods of realizing one's supreme identity with the self-being, > Maharaj is peculiarly non-committal. He says that each has his own way to > reality, and that there can be no general rule. But, for all the gateway to > reality, by whatever road one arrives to it, is the sense of 'I am'. It is > through grasping the full import of the 'I am', and going beyond it, to its > source, that one can realize the supreme state, which is also the primordial > and ultimate. > > > >> > > > > > > Note that the " I am " is not here spoken of as the ultimate. > > > > > > It is just a stepping stone. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 'self'.. the 'I am' is the ultimate.....the fundament....the > primal- placental ooze....out of which it and everything it knows emerges. > > > > It is the room.... where manifestation is cut up into little > pieces.....and everything eats everything.... > > > > It is also..... the only door out of the dream....... > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2003 " <toombaru2003> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@x> wrote: > > << > > For the 'self'.. the 'I am' is the ultimate.....the fundament....the primal- > > placental ooze....out of which it and everything it knows emerges. > > > > It is the room.... where manifestation is cut up into little pieces.....and > > everything eats everything.... > > > > It is also..... the only door out of the dream....... > > >> > > My Toombaru, you do wax poetic... > > > > Rather nice, I dare say. > > > > Bill > > > > btw... that primal-placental ooze....ummm...ummm! > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh yes Bill > > > Seldom is the nightmarish horror of separation discussed on these lists.... > > > :-) > > > Geeseeeeee.......I hate to follow Sheilah with something like that........:-0 > > > > > - > > " toombaru2003 " <toombaru2003> > > <Nisargadatta > > > Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:13 PM > > Re: Nisarga Yoga ( " I am " is just a stepping stone) > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@x> wrote: > > > > << > > > > To delve into the sense of 'I' -- so real and vital -- in order to reach > > its source is the core of the Nisarga Yoga. Not being continuous, the sense > > of 'I' must have a source from which it flows and to which it returns. This > > timeless source of conscious being is what Maharaj calls the self-nature, > > self-being, swarupa. > > > > As to methods of realizing one's supreme identity with the self-being, > > Maharaj is peculiarly non-committal. He says that each has his own way to > > reality, and that there can be no general rule. But, for all the gateway to > > reality, by whatever road one arrives to it, is the sense of 'I am'. It is > > through grasping the full import of the 'I am', and going beyond it, to its > > source, that one can realize the supreme state, which is also the primordial > > and ultimate. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Note that the " I am " is not here spoken of as the ultimate. > > > > > > > > It is just a stepping stone. > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the 'self'.. the 'I am' is the ultimate.....the fundament....the > > primal- placental ooze....out of which it and everything it knows emerges. > > > > > > It is the room.... where manifestation is cut up into little > > pieces.....and everything eats everything.... > > > > > > It is also..... the only door out of the dream....... > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2003 " <toombaru2003> wrote: snip > > Geeseeeeee.......I hate to follow Sheilah with something like that........:-0 > Sheilah takes you down, to her place by the river Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Nisargadatta , " eric paroissien " <brahmanshines@a...> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2003 " > <toombaru2003> wrote: > > snip > > > > Geeseeeeee.......I hate to follow Sheilah with something like > that........:-0 > > > > Sheilah takes you down, to her place by the river .........you apply a soothing balm.....to these ancient wounds..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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