Guest guest Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Words are unmanned boats Drifting in an empty lake. They ferry no one across. Just have a drink! Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 Dawg U B trippin. Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> wrote: > Words are unmanned boats > Drifting in an empty lake. > They ferry no one across. > Just have a drink! > > Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Divine Message of His Holiness Shri Datta Swami Any spiritual aspirant is an ordinary human being only and thus science is applicable for analysing yourself. In fact the process of elimination only can do the attainment of self or the casual body, which is a perfect scientific procedure. Self is the best item of the creation and the analysis of self is also science. When you are an item of creation, your ways and efforts cannot be supernatural and they must follow the natural rules of creation, which are again science only. Therefore you must use the logical scientific analysis in analysing yourself and your path to reach God. But God is beyond this creation who is the Creator. Therefore God cannot be analysed by science. When the goal is above science the scientific path cannot be meaningful because the scientific path will lead to such goal only, which can be analysed by science. For e.g.: let us take the path to Bombay, the path is on the Earth and Bombay is also on the Earth. A path that can be analysed by logic can reach the goal, which must be also analysed by the logic. If I start the journey to God and ask the path to reach Him, nobody can show the path because the God is invisible. An invisible goal will always have an invisible path. Nobody can travel in invisible path. One can show the path to a holy temple. If God exists in the statue, such path is a true path. The main purpose of reaching God is to know the whole knowledge of yourself, the correct path and the correct goal. The reason is that God is the best preacher since all the matters are related to God. Therefore the Human Incarnation is the correct place of God. The human incarnation consists of a visible human body so that the path to reach Him also becomes visible. Since God is in the human incarnation, by reaching that human body you have reached God. In fact God pervaded all over the body and you have reached the God. The God becomes visible through human body and therefore the path to reach God is also visible. The main purpose to reach God is to hear the correct version of the entire spiritual knowledge. Then through service you have to please the God. In the case of statue, it is not preaching any trace of knowledge. Moreover when we serve the statute it is not appearing pleased on its face. Due to these two reasons neither God is in the statute nor God is the statute (Na tasya Pratima- Veda). The statute in the human form is a model to indicate the human form of the Lord. The ignorant human beings who cannot accept the human form of the God due to egoism and jealousy can worship the statute as training for sometime to worship the human form of Lord in future (Pratimahyalpa Buddhinam- Smruti). But one should not sit in the training through out his life. If he sits in the training only, he is born as an inert object like stone (Bhutejya yanti- Gita) Since the Human Incarnation is the Creator, the analysis of the Human Incarnation gives an idea about the God but Vedas and Gita say that God is always unimaginable and can never be known. But the existence of the unimaginable God must be experienced (“Astetyeva”—Veda). Otherwise you may say that God does not exist because He is unimaginable and also beyond experience ..The unimaginability is called as Maya. Unimaginability is the property of Parabrahaman, which has entered pure awareness and made the Mula Maya or pure awareness to become Maya. Mula Maya is not unimaginability since creation did not start. Therefore, the word Mula Maya means the root of Maya and has no Maya in it. When creation started the Mula Maya is converted into Maya, which is a mixture of the unimaginability of Parabrahman that entered Mula Maya and the imaginability of the world (Prakruti). Therefore, in the state of Mula Maya or Brahman, the Parabrahman is not exhibiting unimaginability to the souls because the creation has not yet started and the souls were not yet created. Brahman is the purest state of Parabrahman in the absence of creation. In that state Parabrahman is not unimaginable to itself and therefore has no superimposed apparent ignorance. The unimaginability arises only when imaginability or Prakruti also exists as a reference. Therefore, Brahman can be said as the Parabrahman leftover with pure awareness and without unimaginability (Maya) or imaginability (Prakruti). Maya means wonderful. A wonderful thing need not be unimaginable. Thus the imaginable world (Prakruti) is also called as Maya because the Prakruti is also wonderful. Sankara gave another meaning to Maya i.e., which does not exist. That is also correct because the droplet of the pure awareness, which has become the world or Maya is very negligible and can be treated as almost non-existent. Sankara never told that the world is absolutely non-existent. He said that the world is Mithya, which means that it is neither existent nor non-existent (sadasat vilakshana). It is existent because it exists even though it is very very little. It is non-existent because its existence can be neglected, since it is very very little. People have misunderstood Sankara, who state that according to Sankara the world is non-existent. posted by: His servant at the lotus feet of shri datta swami www.universal-spirituality.org Werner Woehr <wwoehr wrote: Can't it be a bit smaller, why has it always to be that 'Supreme' ? Werner DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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