Guest guest Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 You don't need to look either in distant places or in remote times. In any small fragment of your reality it is found all the beauty of the universe. http://www.sheilah.net _ Messenger - Nueva versión GRATIS Super Webcam, voz, caritas animadas, y más... http://messenger..es Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 Eric I don't think pedagogy works in this way. Best regards S. --- ericparoissien <msrhood escribió: > --- In Nisargadatta , Sheilah > <sheilahgroup> > wrote: > > > > You don't need to look either in distant places or > in > > remote times. In any small fragment of your > reality it > > is found all the beauty of the universe. > > > > http://www.sheilah.net > > > > is that computer generated Sheilah? > that is one of the dullest of yours in a looong > time; > take a break, or come down discuss with us once in a > while, you look > like someone who could learn a lot in the company of > those who can > cut the crap darling. > Eric > > > > > > > > _ > > Messenger - Nueva versión GRATIS > > Super Webcam, voz, caritas animadas, y más... > > http://messenger..es > _ Messenger - Nueva versión GRATIS Super Webcam, voz, caritas animadas, y más... http://messenger..es Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 > is that computer generated Sheilah? > that is one of the dullest of yours in a looong > time; > take a break, or come down discuss with us once in a > while, you look > like someone who could learn a lot in the company of > those who can > cut the crap darling. > Eric My golly man. Can't you be a little more polite? Also, this is buffet style. You don't have to like every dish. Are you saying that *no one here* should partake of Sheilah's post? How can you speak for everyone? If you don't like it you can just delete. No problemo, yes? What is bothering you? This really seems not to be about Sheila at all. It seems to be about Eric. Bill - Sheilah ericparoissien Cc: Nisargadatta Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:23 AM Re: All the beauty is here Eric I don't think pedagogy works in this way. Best regards S. --- ericparoissien <msrhood escribió: > --- In Nisargadatta , Sheilah > <sheilahgroup> > wrote: > > > > You don't need to look either in distant places or > in > > remote times. In any small fragment of your > reality it > > is found all the beauty of the universe. > > > > http://www.sheilah.net > > > > is that computer generated Sheilah? > that is one of the dullest of yours in a looong > time; > take a break, or come down discuss with us once in a > while, you look > like someone who could learn a lot in the company of > those who can > cut the crap darling. > Eric > > > > > > > > _ > > Messenger - Nueva versión GRATIS > > Super Webcam, voz, caritas animadas, y más... > > http://messenger..es > _ Messenger - Nueva versión GRATIS Super Webcam, voz, caritas animadas, y más... http://messenger..es ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 > > > My golly man. > > Can't you be a little more polite? > > > > e# i'm sorry Bill i didn't want to hurt you : ) > > Also, this is buffet style. You don't have to like every dish. > > Are you saying that *no one here* should partake of Sheilah's post? > > How can you speak for everyone? > > e# i just though she is substandard on any standard, maybe i'm wrong? I think everyone deserves to be treated with respect. It is called " human decency " . > > If you don't like it you can just delete. No problemo, yes? > > > > e# do you think she is scared of a regular human exchange? would it > hurt if she related? Hur who is accepting her as a guest on this list > asked a simple question, she did not even condescend to answer him. That is her choice. I would like to see her talk with us more, but for me it is a wish, not a demand. > > What is bothering you? > > e# she epitomizes boredom, decrepitude, lack of imagination, > religious fanaticism, aids in Angola, etc. etc. She epitomizes xyz *to you*. If you were to own your statements, by saying, " To me she is.... " . But " decrepitude " and " aids in Angola " are *insulting* remarks. As for lack of imagination, I don't agree. > > This really seems not to be about Sheila at all. > > It seems to be about Eric. > > > > e# please Bill what can one say about Eric? You have the floor, my man : ) Indeed, what can you say about Eric? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@a...> wrote: > > > > > My golly man. > > > Can't you be a little more polite? > > > > > > > e# i'm sorry Bill i didn't want to hurt you > > : ) > > > > Also, this is buffet style. You don't have to like every dish. > > > Are you saying that *no one here* should partake of Sheilah's post? > > > How can you speak for everyone? > > > > e# i just though she is substandard on any standard, maybe i'm wrong? > I think everyone deserves to be treated with respect. > It is called " human decency " . > > > > If you don't like it you can just delete. No problemo, yes? > > > > > > > e# do you think she is scared of a regular human exchange? would it > > hurt if she related? Hur who is accepting her as a guest on this list > > asked a simple question, she did not even condescend to answer him. > That is her choice. > I would like to see her talk with us more, but for me it is a wish, > not a demand. > > > > What is bothering you? > > > > e# she epitomizes boredom, decrepitude, lack of imagination, > > religious fanaticism, aids in Angola, etc. etc. > She epitomizes xyz *to you*. > If you were to own your statements, by saying, > " To me she is.... " . > > But " decrepitude " and " aids in Angola " are *insulting* remarks. ok Bill i don't want to look insulting i'd like to trade " decrepitude " and " aids in Angola " with " politically correct " and " scared of her own soul " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@a...> wrote: Eric, even if my opinion of you has had its highs and lows, I always thought of you as a gentleman. Was I wrong? Is not beneath a gentleman to apologize to a lady, is it? > > > > > My golly man. > > > Can't you be a little more polite? > > > > > > > e# i'm sorry Bill i didn't want to hurt you > > : ) > > > > Also, this is buffet style. You don't have to like every dish. > > > Are you saying that *no one here* should partake of Sheilah's post? > > > How can you speak for everyone? > > > > e# i just though she is substandard on any standard, maybe i'm wrong? > I think everyone deserves to be treated with respect. > It is called " human decency " . > > > > If you don't like it you can just delete. No problemo, yes? > > > > > > > e# do you think she is scared of a regular human exchange? would it > > hurt if she related? Hur who is accepting her as a guest on this list > > asked a simple question, she did not even condescend to answer him. > That is her choice. > I would like to see her talk with us more, but for me it is a wish, > not a demand. > > > > What is bothering you? > > > > e# she epitomizes boredom, decrepitude, lack of imagination, > > religious fanaticism, aids in Angola, etc. etc. > She epitomizes xyz *to you*. > If you were to own your statements, by saying, > " To me she is.... " . > > But " decrepitude " and " aids in Angola " are *insulting* remarks. > > As for lack of imagination, I don't agree. > > > > > This really seems not to be about Sheila at all. > > > It seems to be about Eric. > > > > > > > e# please Bill what can one say about Eric? > You have the floor, my man : ) > Indeed, what can you say about Eric? > > > Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 Is this list really only about EGO dance? Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 Hello everybody I don't need an apology, I am not offended at all. I just hope Eric has learnt something from all of it. ....The world reflects what is inside of us...If something or someone bothers me, I check first myself... With Love S. Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> wrote: > Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@a...> > wrote: > Eric, even if my opinion of you has had its highs and lows, I always > thought of you as a gentleman. Was I wrong? Is not beneath a gentleman > to apologize to a lady, is it? > > > > > > > > My golly man. > > > > Can't you be a little more polite? > > > > > > > > > > e# i'm sorry Bill i didn't want to hurt you > > > > : ) > > > > > > Also, this is buffet style. You don't have to like every dish. > > > > Are you saying that *no one here* should partake of Sheilah's > post? > > > > How can you speak for everyone? > > > > > > e# i just though she is substandard on any standard, maybe i'm > wrong? > > I think everyone deserves to be treated with respect. > > It is called " human decency " . > > > > > > If you don't like it you can just delete. No problemo, yes? > > > > > > > > > > e# do you think she is scared of a regular human exchange? would > it > > > hurt if she related? Hur who is accepting her as a guest on this > list > > > asked a simple question, she did not even condescend to answer > him. > > That is her choice. > > I would like to see her talk with us more, but for me it is a wish, > > not a demand. > > > > > > What is bothering you? > > > > > > e# she epitomizes boredom, decrepitude, lack of imagination, > > > religious fanaticism, aids in Angola, etc. etc. > > She epitomizes xyz *to you*. > > If you were to own your statements, by saying, > > " To me she is.... " . > > > > But " decrepitude " and " aids in Angola " are *insulting* remarks. > > > > As for lack of imagination, I don't agree. > > > > > > > > This really seems not to be about Sheila at all. > > > > It seems to be about Eric. > > > > > > > > > > e# please Bill what can one say about Eric? > > You have the floor, my man : ) > > Indeed, what can you say about Eric? > > > > > > Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 Well, my dear, I must hand it to you. There must be more to your snippets than meets the eye, if they provoke such reaction in Eric. No doubt, he's examining that reaction and finding some useful insights. Good work! Nisargadatta , " sheilahgroup " <sheilahgroup> wrote: > > Hello everybody > > I don't need an apology, I am not offended at all. > I just hope Eric has learnt something from all of it. > > ...The world reflects what is inside of us...If something or someone > bothers me, I check first myself... > > With Love > S. > > > > Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@a...> > > wrote: > > Eric, even if my opinion of you has had its highs and lows, I > always > > thought of you as a gentleman. Was I wrong? Is not beneath a > gentleman > > to apologize to a lady, is it? > > > > > > > > > > > My golly man. > > > > > Can't you be a little more polite? > > > > > > > > > > > > > e# i'm sorry Bill i didn't want to hurt you > > > > > > : ) > > > > > > > > Also, this is buffet style. You don't have to like every > dish. > > > > > Are you saying that *no one here* should partake of > Sheilah's > > post? > > > > > How can you speak for everyone? > > > > > > > > e# i just though she is substandard on any standard, maybe i'm > > wrong? > > > I think everyone deserves to be treated with respect. > > > It is called " human decency " . > > > > > > > > If you don't like it you can just delete. No problemo, yes? > > > > > > > > > > > > > e# do you think she is scared of a regular human exchange? > would > > it > > > > hurt if she related? Hur who is accepting her as a guest on > this > > list > > > > asked a simple question, she did not even condescend to answer > > him. > > > That is her choice. > > > I would like to see her talk with us more, but for me it is a > wish, > > > not a demand. > > > > > > > > What is bothering you? > > > > > > > > e# she epitomizes boredom, decrepitude, lack of imagination, > > > > religious fanaticism, aids in Angola, etc. etc. > > > She epitomizes xyz *to you*. > > > If you were to own your statements, by saying, > > > " To me she is.... " . > > > > > > But " decrepitude " and " aids in Angola " are *insulting* remarks. > > > > > > As for lack of imagination, I don't agree. > > > > > > > > > > > This really seems not to be about Sheila at all. > > > > > It seems to be about Eric. > > > > > > > > > > > > > e# please Bill what can one say about Eric? > > > You have the floor, my man : ) > > > Indeed, what can you say about Eric? > > > > > > > > > Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 > Is this list really only about EGO dance? At times it does seem to be mostly that. This list seems a bit on the cerebral side, if you ask me... which tends to be about " ego dance " . But doesn't have to be. Try posting something that isn't, and see what happens : ) Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 At 09:03 AM 3/10/2004 -0800, you wrote: > > Is this list really only about EGO dance? >At times it does seem to be mostly that. >This list seems a bit on the cerebral side, >if you ask me... which tends to be about > " ego dance " . But doesn't have to be. > >Try posting something that isn't, and see >what happens : ) > >Bill Maybe one of these days we will see a post related to Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj!? Fancy the thought! %^) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 Nisargadatta , johnwh@c... wrote: > At 09:03 AM 3/10/2004 -0800, you wrote: > > > > > Is this list really only about EGO dance? > >At times it does seem to be mostly that. > >This list seems a bit on the cerebral side, > >if you ask me... which tends to be about > > " ego dance " . But doesn't have to be. > > > >Try posting something that isn't, and see > >what happens : ) > > > >Bill > > Maybe one of these days we will see a post > related to Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj!? Fancy > the thought! %^) e# Nisargadatta never leaves my heart, whether i post or i eat or i sleep, just read between the lines. [up here just a millimeter beneath the e#] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 > There must be more to your snippets than meets the eye What doesn't meet the eye (for some) is the purity. A soft breeze can refresh the spirit. Bill - seesaw1us Nisargadatta Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:54 AM Re: All the beauty is here Well, my dear, I must hand it to you. There must be more to your snippets than meets the eye, if they provoke such reaction in Eric. No doubt, he's examining that reaction and finding some useful insights. Good work! Nisargadatta , " sheilahgroup " <sheilahgroup> wrote: > > Hello everybody > > I don't need an apology, I am not offended at all. > I just hope Eric has learnt something from all of it. > > ...The world reflects what is inside of us...If something or someone > bothers me, I check first myself... > > With Love > S. > > > > Nisargadatta , " seesaw1us " <seesaw1us> > wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Bill Rishel " <plexus@a...> > > wrote: > > Eric, even if my opinion of you has had its highs and lows, I > always > > thought of you as a gentleman. Was I wrong? Is not beneath a > gentleman > > to apologize to a lady, is it? > > > > > > > > > > > My golly man. > > > > > Can't you be a little more polite? > > > > > > > > > > > > > e# i'm sorry Bill i didn't want to hurt you > > > > > > : ) > > > > > > > > Also, this is buffet style. You don't have to like every > dish. > > > > > Are you saying that *no one here* should partake of > Sheilah's > > post? > > > > > How can you speak for everyone? > > > > > > > > e# i just though she is substandard on any standard, maybe i'm > > wrong? > > > I think everyone deserves to be treated with respect. > > > It is called " human decency " . > > > > > > > > If you don't like it you can just delete. No problemo, yes? > > > > > > > > > > > > > e# do you think she is scared of a regular human exchange? > would > > it > > > > hurt if she related? Hur who is accepting her as a guest on > this > > list > > > > asked a simple question, she did not even condescend to answer > > him. > > > That is her choice. > > > I would like to see her talk with us more, but for me it is a > wish, > > > not a demand. > > > > > > > > What is bothering you? > > > > > > > > e# she epitomizes boredom, decrepitude, lack of imagination, > > > > religious fanaticism, aids in Angola, etc. etc. > > > She epitomizes xyz *to you*. > > > If you were to own your statements, by saying, > > > " To me she is.... " . > > > > > > But " decrepitude " and " aids in Angola " are *insulting* remarks. > > > > > > As for lack of imagination, I don't agree. > > > > > > > > > > > This really seems not to be about Sheila at all. > > > > > It seems to be about Eric. > > > > > > > > > > > > > e# please Bill what can one say about Eric? > > > You have the floor, my man : ) > > > Indeed, what can you say about Eric? > > > > > > > > > Bill ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 Maybe somebody has already digested EXPLORATIONS into the ETERNAL by Ramesh S. Balsekar. If you could turn to page 189 and find the following thought: In other words, human beings - whathever they may think - do not live and exercise volition but are entirely " lived " as such. I understand that all the phenomenological duality is just a mechanical dance of appearances in consciousness... however, from the absolute perspective, the One that exists has to have volition, which is maintaned while this manifestation apprears through " humans, " otherwise it would not be possible to maintain consciousness that requires some navigation and directing of the focus, at least in the realm of concepts... Any thoughts? J. Bill Rishel <plexus wrote: > Is this list really only about EGO dance? At times it does seem to be mostly that. This list seems a bit on the cerebral side, if you ask me... which tends to be about " ego dance " . But doesn't have to be. Try posting something that isn't, and see what happens : ) Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 Nisargadatta , Jurek <omeganlp> wrote: > Maybe somebody has already digested EXPLORATIONS into the ETERNAL by Ramesh S. Balsekar. If you could turn to page 189 and find the following thought: I have not read the book, but that hasn't stopped me before--- > > In other words, human beings - whathever they may think - do not live and exercise volition but are entirely " lived " as such. We offer proof that we " lived " our life by providing memories and the occasional photo or diploma as hard evidence. But someone with amnesia can not offer this proof. In fact, they can not be convinced that they did live their life. So proof comes from memory, and not from any real thing called 'a life lived'. The past does not exist and so can not be supplied as evidence. So one could say not only is there no exercise of volition, but there is no life 'lived as such'. Ok Ok enough BS - - what about Free Will. Even if we had free will, how could it overpower the seemingly almighty force of nature. Once a single celled organism on a slide told me it had free will. I just laughed. (I felt generous and spared its life!!) A couple of nights ago I twas at a perty and I asked an old friend how she was doing. She replied " I take shit, and I give shit " . I think that about sums it up. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 - " Jurek " <omeganlp <Nisargadatta > Thursday, March 11, 2004 03:16 AM Re: Re: All the beauty is here > Maybe somebody has already digested EXPLORATIONS into the ETERNAL by Ramesh S. Balsekar. If you could turn to page 189 and find the following thought: > > In other words, human beings - whathever they may think - do not live and exercise volition but are entirely " lived " as such. > > I understand that all the phenomenological duality is just a mechanical dance of appearances in consciousness... which is nothing but Consciousness. The dancing images as appearances have no independent exsitential reality to them. The thousand " wave(s) " in the Ocean, appear, distinct, separated from each other, each appearing to have an individual existence. However pick up a " wave " and all you will have in the plam of your hand, is the Ocean. >however, from the absolute perspective, the One that exists has to have volition, which is maintaned while this manifestation >apprears through " humans, " otherwise it would not be possible to maintain consciousness that requires some navigation and >directing of the focus, at least in the realm of concepts... Any thoughts? The relevance of volition arises for I, when there is something which is not-I, isn't it? Thus the scope of volition for I to reach,attain, achieve, realize, ...........the not-I, making the relevance of volition only within the gestalt of a becoming, of duality, wouldn't it? If all " becomings " , if the very gestalt of duality is itself a notion, an ideation.......... When I am all there IS,......... .........when I am the alpha...................I am the omega,..........and I am the becoming of alpha to omega,.......... ............ALL simultaneously,.......... .........can volition, be of any relevance to I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 - " trem23 " <inmadison <Nisargadatta > Thursday, March 11, 2004 09:45 AM Re: All the beauty is here > Nisargadatta , Jurek <omeganlp> wrote: > > Maybe somebody has already digested EXPLORATIONS into the ETERNAL > by Ramesh S. Balsekar. If you could turn to page 189 and find the > following thought: > > I have not read the book, but that hasn't stopped me before--- > > > > > In other words, human beings - whathever they may think - do not > live and exercise volition but are entirely " lived " as such. > > We offer proof that we " lived " our life by providing memories and the > occasional photo or diploma as hard evidence. But someone with > amnesia can not offer this proof. In fact, they can not be convinced > that they did live their life. > > So proof comes from memory, and not from any real thing called 'a > life lived'. The past does not exist and so can not be supplied as > evidence. > > So one could say not only is there no exercise of volition, but there > is no life 'lived as such'. Yes. Just this moment, which in the very attempt to capture through cognition, has already slipped into mnemonic cells. > > Ok Ok enough BS - - what about Free Will. Even if we had free will, > how could it overpower the seemingly almighty force of nature. Once > a single celled organism on a slide told me it had free will. I just > laughed. (I felt generous and spared its life!!) The real question is not free-will or pre-destination, but who is it, for whom is the issue,..... between Free-will and pre-destination. > > A couple of nights ago I twas at a perty and I asked an old friend > how she was doing. She replied " I take shit, and I give shit " . I > think that about sums it up. Shit Happens. There is a profound eulogy around this, in case you are interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 Nisargadatta , Jurek <omeganlp> wrote: > Is this list really only about EGO dance? > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " your friends today! Download Messenger Now > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 There was a response to my query pointing out that: " The real question is not free-will or pre-destination, but who is it, for whom is the issue,..... between Free-will and pre-destination. " I alsoappreciated humor embedded in a cute reframe of " I take shit, and I give shit " to " Shit Happens. " In fact it seems to be very profound stuff: if I got it right, the whole point about free-will/predestination is again a dance of concepts and appears to make sense from the point of view of phenomenological context of the virtual subject. (I use 'virtual' to mean the same thing as in computer science: virtual does not exist but appears to be as " real. " Thanks. PS. What about this one: " Shit happens.. but is there anybody to give a flying f...? " Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 - " Jurek " <omeganlp <Nisargadatta > Thursday, March 11, 2004 01:29 PM Re: Re: All the beauty is here > > There was a response to my query pointing out that: > > " The real question is not free-will or pre-destination, but who is it, for whom is the issue,..... between Free-will and pre-destination. " > > I alsoappreciated humor embedded in a cute reframe of " I take shit, and I give shit " to " Shit Happens. " > > In fact it seems to be very profound stuff: if I got it right, the whole point about free-will/predestination is again a dance of >concepts and appears to make sense from the point of view of phenomenological context of the virtual subject. (I use 'virtual' to >mean the same thing as in computer science: virtual does not exist but appears to be as " real. " Yes. Posit a self,..............and give birth to the issue of free-will versus pre-destination,...........in fact give birth to all issues. Including the issue of seeking. Not suggesting that such fun and games do not teem within phenomenality. > > Thanks. > > PS. What about this one: " Shit happens.. but is there anybody to give a flying f...? " Well if the Shit goes flying into the fan,........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 Final Truth -------------- There is neither creation nor destruction. neither determination nor free will, neither path nor achievement, This is the final truth. Sri Ramana Maharshi Nisargadatta , Jurek <omeganlp> wrote: > > There was a response to my query pointing out that: > > " The real question is not free-will or pre-destination, but who is it, for whom is the issue,..... between Free-will and pre- destination. " > > I alsoappreciated humor embedded in a cute reframe of " I take shit, and I give shit " to " Shit Happens. " > > In fact it seems to be very profound stuff: if I got it right, the whole point about free-will/predestination is again a dance of concepts and appears to make sense from the point of view of phenomenological context of the virtual subject. (I use 'virtual' to mean the same thing as in computer science: virtual does not exist but appears to be as " real. " > > Thanks. > > PS. What about this one: " Shit happens.. but is there anybody to give a flying f...? " > Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " your friends today! Download Messenger Now > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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